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He was surely not bought as an out and out striker. But given how crap Mubama has been and our failure to sign another decent striker (or, any striker) we are forced to give him a go.

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27 minutes ago, BotleySaint said:

He was surely not bought as an out and out striker. But given how crap Mubama has been and our failure to sign another decent striker (or, any striker) we are forced to give him a go.

He was signed to be the “Azaz alternate” - we kind of messed up both positions, really. 

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1 hour ago, Turkish said:

He’ll come good, he’s got some quality just needs run of games. this time last year everyone was writing off Azaz 

But at least the then manager considered Azaz worthy of a place in the starting lineup. That isn’t the case now with Dobbin.

Same can be said of Mubama

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16 minutes ago, Badger said:

But at least the then manager considered Azaz worthy of a place in the starting lineup. That isn’t the case now with Dobbin.

Same can be said of Mubama

Incorrect. This time last year Azaz was sub, he was sub for the October games v Bristol City, Derby and Swansea. Started v Preston then back on the bench for Tondas first Game in charge at QPR

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4 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Incorrect. This time last year Azaz was sub, he was sub for the October games v Bristol City, Derby and Swansea. Started v Preston then back on the bench for Tondas first Game in charge at QPR

Okay. Had forgotten that.

(Trying to erase the detail of the Will Still period from my memory perhaps)

 

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5 minutes ago, Badger said:

Okay. Had forgotten that.

(Trying to erase the detail of the Will Still period from my memory perhaps)

 

I remember it well because the first time I saw him live was Hull away, we were abysmal during and after the game he was getting a lot of criticism but I thought he looked a really good player, trying to make things happen but was on another wave length to the attacking players on the pitch, Downes, Frazer and Fellows I believe so didn’t buy into the criticism he was getting. 

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

He’ll come good, he’s got some quality just needs run of games. this time last year everyone was writing off Azaz 

I can’t see it.

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45 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Why he starts ahead of Manama I’ve no idea. Not saying Manama is good but at least he can lead a line

Do doo do do do

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I’m still not convinced this wasn’t linked to THB & some sort of accounting trick to tick the SCR/SSR (or whatever they’re called) rules. They sign him for X amount of millions, but don’t play him, and we get this chump for £9 million, £9 fucking million!!!!
 

There’s a few look dodgy to me the last couple of years. Garnacho to Villa for £43 million after an obligation, yeah not linked to Rodgers  and Martinez that one 🤔

Wouldnt surprise me in the least if there’s some sort of accounting wheeze being used, as his fee has defo been inflated whilst they get a player they don’t seem to want to play. 
 

He’s still pony. 

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33 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I’m still not convinced this wasn’t linked to THB & some sort of accounting trick to tick the SCR/SSR (or whatever they’re called) rules. They sign him for X amount of millions, but don’t play him, and we get this chump for £9 million, £9 fucking million!!!!
 

There’s a few look dodgy to me the last couple of years. Garnacho to Villa for £43 million after an obligation, yeah not linked to Rodgers  and Martinez that one 🤔

Wouldnt surprise me in the least if there’s some sort of accounting wheeze being used, as his fee has defo been inflated whilst they get a player they don’t seem to want to play. 
 

He’s still pony. 

That doesn’t stack up to me. This would mean we overpay for Dobbin (being kind probably paying twice his value !), then struggle to eke out anywhere near our own expectation for THB. 
 

Even by SR standards that seems fuckwittery even beyond their standards. 
 

I don’t doubt there are some accounting ruses (and Villas trading with Chelsea, and a previous deal with Everton -possibly also involving Dobbin - raise questions) but this doesn’t seem one of them. Although also wonder if part of the THB deal might have involved writing off something on Archer. 
 

Agree he’s still “pony”. Over £20m on Archer and Dobbin. Would we have been better off donating it to charity for the tax relief ? 

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19 hours ago, Turkish said:

He’ll come good, he’s got some quality just needs run of games. this time last year everyone was writing off Azaz 

Thought I'd go and see how his goals were for PNE last season, real mixed bag and feel he is short on minutes and bit on confidence at the moment.
 

Maybe Tonda not quite sure where his best position is either?
 

Not writing him off yet, but can see why people are getting frustrated with the signing.

 

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1 hour ago, skintsaint said:

Thought I'd go and see how his goals were for PNE last season, real mixed bag and feel he is short on minutes and bit on confidence at the moment.
 

Maybe Tonda not quite sure where his best position is either?
 

Not writing him off yet, but can see why people are getting frustrated with the signing.

 

One fifth of his goals that season were against us 

 

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3 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Thought I'd go and see how his goals were for PNE last season, real mixed bag and feel he is short on minutes and bit on confidence at the moment.
 

Maybe Tonda not quite sure where his best position is either?
 

Not writing him off yet, but can see why people are getting frustrated with the signing.

 

Watching those goals left me wondering how he didn't score at least one yesterday but also thinking there's a lot more to come from him.

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14 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

Why he starts ahead of Manama I’ve no idea. Not saying Manama is good but at least he can lead a line

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21 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Thought I'd go and see how his goals were for PNE last season, real mixed bag and feel he is short on minutes and bit on confidence at the moment.
 

Maybe Tonda not quite sure where his best position is either?
 

Not writing him off yet, but can see why people are getting frustrated with the signing.

 

Some good goals, "complimented" by some terrible music! 

Sure he'll come good.

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On 17/10/2026 at 17:58, Gloucester Saint said:

Strangest signing ever.

None the wiser as to what position he’s meant to be or any strengths, apart from a couple of nice turns at Carrow Road. 

I thought he was signed as cover for azaz in the ten position l? 

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3 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

I thought he was signed as cover for azaz in the ten position l? 

So did I, but he hasn’t looked up to anything even there. You wouldn’t expect him to be at Finn’s level, he’s the best #10 in the Champ, but the drop off is enormous, which given he didn’t cost much off what Finn did just over 12 months ago. 

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4 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

So did I, but he hasn’t looked up to anything even there. You wouldn’t expect him to be at Finn’s level, he’s the best #10 in the Champ, but the drop off is enormous, which given he didn’t cost much off what Finn did just over 12 months ago. 

Yeah they don’t really have the same skill sets .. to be honest I think azaz plays the best creative passes of all my years watching saints.. dobbin seems more a mobile versatile player that can cover a few positions for us .. I think I he bigger worry is tonda doesn’t seem to rate Mubama .. so yet again we seem like we have messed up the cf positions surely it wouldn’t have been our if our budget to replace Stewart with a proven championship cf 

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So disappointing thus far, but, I have more faith in Dobby than Fellows. I'm starting to think Tom doesn't want to succeed here. Can't quite believe the drop of we are witnessing from him. We may well be just the wrong club. 

 

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2 minutes ago, LiberalCommunist said:

So disappointing thus far, but, I have more faith in Dobby than Fellows. I'm starting to think Tom doesn't want to succeed here. Can't quite believe the drop of we are witnessing from him. We may well be just the wrong club. 

 

I think we are for both Dobbin and Fellows tbh. Do SR want to buy the type of players around and change systems as they had at PNE and WBA?

If they don’t, sell them in January and bring in players who do work for the system Tonda wants to deploy.

Obvious, but we know SFC/SR scouting team are not the sharpest tools in the shed. 

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