JustMike Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/7873058.stm jesus!!! The reason we didnt accept them bids was because they were so low. He is having a love in with lowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Has it not been accepted that we rejected bids for Lallana and Surman then? He's said a bit too much since he got his promotion but I don't think that piece is one of the ones to get het up about. Also; editing in a caveat at a later time is not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/7873058.stm jesus!!! Seems entirely reasonable comment by Wotte. Difficult to see how anyone could disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 I can't for the life of me think who's pulling his strings then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 5 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Seems entirely reasonable comment by Wotte. Difficult to see how anyone could disagree. reasonable?? a waste of time id call it. Yeah yeah so we didnt accept a bid of 2p, so what. Im more interested to hear what he has planned to keep us up, could do without yet more board room loving thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Perhaps what is more telling is the comment about the strength of the team being more important than the short term finances. MAybe were not in quite as much financial trouble as certain doom mongers on here would like us to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 5 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Perhaps what is more telling is the comment about the strength of the team being more important than the short term finances. MAybe were not in quite as much financial trouble as certain doom mongers on here would like us to believe. strength of the team? I dont see hardly any strength at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 It's easy to see how this guy got the job - looks like one of those ass kissers who spend more time sucking up to their employers than actually working. He must have took lessons from Dave Jones - he's the master of doing a **** job and getting away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Seems entirely reasonable comment by Wotte. Difficult to see how anyone could disagree. totally reasonable. People made their minds up on him before seeing how he gets on and slag off everything he says. I will judge on performance -jurys out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Interesting as Surman was not bid for acording to The Echo. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4103178.Surman_unfazed_by_transfer_talk/ I smell a bit of spin in the air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/7873058.stm jesus!!! The reason we didnt accept them bids was because they were so low. He is having a love in with lowe Why is it crap? I'm glad we didn't need to sell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 It's easy to see how this guy got the job - looks like one of those ass kissers who spend more time sucking up to their employers than actually working. He must have took lessons from Dave Jones - he's the master of doing a **** job and getting away with it. Or maybe telling it as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Ah, that bastion of truth, The Echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Interesting as Surman was not bid for acording to The Echo. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4103178.Surman_unfazed_by_transfer_talk/ I smell a bit of spin in the air? It said "it is not thought saints received any bids" which is inconclusive. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 strength of the team? I dont see hardly any strength at all I think we have a very strong team, its holding up the rest of the division bar one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Or maybe telling it as it is. Could be, true or not it's quality ass licking. Poortvleit probably didn't have a chance with a political mover like him hovering around in the background waiting for his moment to dig the knife in to his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 It said "it is not thought saints received any bids" which is inconclusive. HTH Indeed but it is thought the club received 2 bids for 2 players. 1 of those bids was for Dyer from Swansea which leaves 1 other. Now i have heard a lot of mixed stuff out of the club, i'm sure others will be able to shead more light but i was told the other bid was for BWP. As far as i was aware there was no bids for anyone else which would include The Echo. Now of course we could all be wrong but it would seem The Echo have heard the same thing pretty much. I wonder if he has got a note from an anonymous person saying there were bids? It would be interesting though to hear those who have far better contacts then me at the club thoughts on what they have heard transfer wise? Either way if the 2 bids thing is true then he has to be lying about 1 of them at least as that would make 3 bids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Some can disagree with anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 I think we have a very strong team, its holding up the rest of the division bar one. Very polite too. Always standing back and letting others through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 When he could be talking about what he plans to do to get 3 points at Watford, he just talks a load of pony about the board resisting offers for Surman and Lallana. He's passing on Lowes propaganda verbatim in every interview I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 When he could be talking about what he plans to do to get 3 points at Watford, he just talks a load of pony about the board resisting offers for Surman and Lallana. He's passing on Lowes propaganda verbatim in every interview I've read. Do you know how interviews work? Do you know an 'angle' is? Journo asks a range of questions. Interviewee answers them. Journo writes story. Sub Editor leaves out bits and sexes it up. If he was asked "are you pleased with the support of the board in not losing any players during January" there isnt much else he can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 When he could be talking about what he plans to do to get 3 points at Watford, he just talks a load of pony about the board resisting offers for Surman and Lallana. He's passing on Lowes propaganda verbatim in every interview I've read. This is a problem when you are anti-Lowe, you cannot see through the blinkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Interesting as Surman was not bid for acording to The Echo. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4103178.Surman_unfazed_by_transfer_talk/ I smell a bit of spin in the air? Quite. Not only did Wotte unveil himself at his unveiling press conference, but he's now doing a Keith Legg and speaking on behalf of Wilde. Our club is the pits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 This is a problem when you are anti-Lowe, you cannot see through the blinkers. And you are so far up Lowes arse you are blind to what is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 And somewhere in the middle lies the path to enlightenment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 The thing is clubs might well have contacted Saints and made an offer so they could talk to the player but if the club felt the offer was not enough then there is no reason for the player to be told. So Surman not mentioning it in the echo could be that he was not informed. I had a call on Friday evening to say Reading were lining up a bit for him to replace Hunt (it came from within Reading) so they may have made initial contact. In any event Hunt stayed. The same for Adam. Certailly he knew nothing about it when I last spoke to someone on Saturday. I have not been told anything changed. Ot it might easily be pure spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 £500,000 is imo a reasonable offer for Surman. He's not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Do you know how interviews work? Do you know an 'angle' is? Journo asks a range of questions. Interviewee answers them. Journo writes story. Sub Editor leaves out bits and sexes it up. If he was asked "are you pleased with the support of the board in not losing any players during January" there isnt much else he can say. Q. "are you pleased with the support of the board in not losing any players during January". A. "The board make the calls they see fit ,I work with whoever is here" or A. "Yes thank you" Not the guff he poured out. Apart from anything else, if Lowe does fall on his sword or is thrown off a bridge, Wotte will be seen as too close to the old guard to retain his job (if he manages to get a few results) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 And you are so far up Lowes arse you are blind to what is happening. Standard reply from one dimensional Stanley. I suppose all the snow and the country coming to a standstill was all Lowe's fault as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Standard reply from one dimensional Stanley. I suppose all the snow and the country coming to a standstill was all Lowe's fault as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Q. "are you pleased with the support of the board in not losing any players during January". A. "The board make the calls they see fit ,I work with whoever is here" or A. "Yes thank you" Not the guff he poured out. Apart from anything else, if Lowe does fall on his sword or is thrown off a bridge, Wotte will be seen as too close to the old guard to retain his job (if he manages to get a few results) bizarre thread -manager slated unless he only give yes/no comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 5 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Why is it crap? I'm glad we didn't need to sell them. its crap because we all know that had the offers been anything near what we (the club) value them at then they would have gone. Still a s**t article and no need to spin yet more BS. I have had enough of "the board this and board that" bollix, its a shame MW doesnt put the same effort into getting his team to play football. So far from him we have had his rant about the protest, the blaming the weather for low support (yes granted it may have played a part but if we were top of the league it owuld have been a lot more) and now this? Sorry it stinks too much of Lowe et al for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team-saint Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 seeing as wotte is the manager, it should be his decision as to whether transfer bids are accepted. so why is he thanking the board? their job is not to deal with transfers as far as i am aware????? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Standard reply from one dimensional Stanley. I suppose all the snow and the country coming to a standstill was all Lowe's fault as well If it were he would have laid off all the gritter drivers before the snow came as a cost cutting exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 5 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2009 totally reasonable. People made their minds up on him before seeing how he gets on and slag off everything he says. I will judge on performance -jurys out. so from what you have seen you are happy? We were VERY lucky to get the 2 points from 9 that we got, how long before you are calling for his head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 seeing as wotte is the manager, it should be his decision as to whether transfer bids are accepted. so why is he thanking the board? their job is not to deal with transfers as far as i am aware????? :confused: I don't think any manager of any club has that sort of freedom tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 bizarre thread -manager slated unless he only give yes/no comments You obviously haven't read the article:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Standard reply from one dimensional Stanley. I suppose all the snow and the country coming to a standstill was all Lowe's fault as well Stanley's reply is only as one-dimensional as yours. Only a Lowe luvvy could think the snow is Lowe's fault, if you consider him to be your God then he could influence the weather I suppose. Everyone knows the country grinding to a halt is Wilde's fault, not Lowe's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Just sounds to me like a comment without a point, the board knows the fans arent exactly keen on them and no matter how much pro board crap the manager spouts wont change that. Change the record Mark and focus on getting the team to play please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Why were these so called bids turned down? Did Lowe not say that as saga was back we would have to sell as his wagers were high? Or is the financial gloom noise coming out of SMS not as bad as we are supposed to believe? Or maybe it`s just a smoke screen so Lowe can justify this clueless dutch experimental,monumental,shambolic ****-up of a coaching set up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 so from what you have seen you are happy? no, not happy, thought Swansea gave me hope as thought team showed more character under him and better tactics but disappointed with what I saw on Tuesday. We were VERY lucky to get the 2 points from 9 that we got, how long before you are calling for his head?longer than 3 games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 You obviously haven't read the article:rolleyes: and again -its still perfectly reasonable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Manager of team says he is pleased that some of his best players were not sold in the transfer window.....and then gets absolutely ripped apart by some fans for saying such a thing. Read it again and ask yourself - what are you actually getting upset about? What the f uc k is wrong with some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 the ugly inside forum used to have posts like this from skates -not saying for a minute these are skates as I know we are all saints fans but this looking for criticism and negative is getting totally OTT - there is plenty out there already without witch hunts and paranoid conspiracies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 When he could be talking about what he plans to do to get 3 points at Watford, he just talks a load of pony about the board resisting offers for Surman and Lallana. He's passing on Lowes propaganda verbatim in every interview I've read. Maybe he doesn't know how to get 3 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 5 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2009 the ugly inside forum used to have posts like this from skates -not saying for a minute these are skates as I know we are all saints fans but this looking for criticism and negative is getting totally OTT - there is plenty out there already without witch hunts and paranoid conspiracies! This is not a witch hunt, its a fan getting p1s*ed off with the constant carp coming from within saints at the moment. They all seem far to occupied with having a swipe at us than doing whats important. As for the 3 game thing, in both the Norwich and Swansea games we should have lost but were lucky to gain 2 points, sorry if that doesnt fill me with optimism. Wotte is no better than JP, both are reactive rather than proactive. Wotte is clearly lowes glove puppet and im fed up with reading / hearing these stories with sly digs all the time. Criticism and negative OTT you say..what part of 'we are 2nd bottom and falling' dont you get? i see no reason to not be critical or optimistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 If it were he would have laid off all the gritter drivers before the snow came as a cost cutting exercise. Ah but if he didn't lay of the gritter drivers then you would blame him for the increase in the council tax to offset the extra costs incurred. He's in a no win situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 (edited) I don't think any manager of any club has that sort of freedom tbh. Go and read the top article (Top right related stories, from the orginal link) oh by the way i have no issue with the statement either, with the exception of him thanking the board for holding thier nerve and not selling, when in the other article he says he turned down the bids. As i said no problem with the statement, just more spin bull**** from the borad and not his problem, except being used as a puppet Two articles contridicting each other http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...on/7873058.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/7865139.stm Edited 5 February, 2009 by Gemmel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 This is not a witch hunt, its a fan getting p1s*ed off with the constant carp coming from within saints at the moment. They all seem far to occupied with having a swipe at us than doing whats important. As for the 3 game thing, in both the Norwich and Swansea games we should have lost but were lucky to gain 2 points, sorry if that doesnt fill me with optimism. Wotte is no better than JP, both are reactive rather than proactive. Wotte is clearly lowes glove puppet and im fed up with reading / hearing these stories with sly digs all the time. Criticism and negative OTT you say..what part of 'we are 2nd bottom and falling' dont you get? i see no reason to not be critical or optimistic what is the cr*p in that article? where is the swipe at us? Not a single word- that's why it is a witch hunt. I am not filled with optimism at all either. I did think Swansea was an improvement on Doncaster but he has a lot more to do to make me think he is any good. Still think any manager appointed needs more than 3 games, if you don't fair enough. 2nd from bottom is sh1t, and if thread was 2nd bottom is sh1t I would agree its fair comment. But to slate a manager for saying he is pleased his better player were not sold when most thought (and nearly all on here) that they would is OTT, blinkered negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 Ah, that bastion of truth, The Echo. Ponty you are also now taking on the numero uno role of number 1 cynic, is it the bad time of the month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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