Torbay Saint Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 As it is a Friday I thought I would post the following. I post this not knowing the basis or the truth behind this rumour. I simply pass on the information that was posted on my facebook wall by a friend who supports Wolves. He states: "I thought under the circumstances with the Saints struggling I would drop you a line to tell you a rumour I have heard from Wolverhampton. As we are top of the league it's all fine at the moment, however....Steve Morgan our chairman has been seen coming in and out of St Mary's. The talk is that he is going to table a bid to buy out Lowe. He would still be at Molineux but also own Southampton and take Mick McCarthy with him next season (as McCarthy has proved he is not a Prem manager before.) I will let you know if I hear anymore. That's the news from Wolvo anyway." Now this all seems very far fetched to me. For instance does Steve Morgan own Wolves...I did not think you could own two clubs in the Football League. Has anyone else heard anything similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 lolololololol i think that is illegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 omg The boy who cried wolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbay Saint Posted 6 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 February, 2009 You are welcome to check the message on facebook. Like I said I am only passing on what I was told. If you read the post I also doubt its integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Isn't it more likely that someone from Southampton would notice the ins and outs of Saint Mary's? Not saying it's wrong or anything, just doesn't add up that a Wolves fan would notice their chairman coming in and out of a stadium in the south... Not keen on Mick either, seems to be a poor man's Glenda in terms of man management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 My god, what a ridiculous rumour. Half of that is simply illegal the rest is not even worth commenting on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 I dont think you can own two clubs at the same time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 My god, what a ridiculous rumour. Half of that is simply illegal the rest is not even worth commenting on. Unless of course one of the two clubs mentioned sold themselves to the Hungarian team who were linked to both all last week. hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowestoft-Saint Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Just in case anyone is interested he is reported to be worth £400 million ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 I don't think you can own two clubs at the same time..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 That's actually quite interesting Steve Morgan is a former Jersey resident and a man who knows Michael Wilde personally I understand Steve Morgan was one of the potential investors that MW was hoping to secure 3 years back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowestoft-Saint Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 That's actually quite interesting Steve Morgan is a former Jersey resident and a man who knows Michael Wilde personally I understand Steve Morgan was one of the potential investors that MW was hoping to secure 3 years back Maybe we can do a straight swap lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 I don't think you can own two clubs at the same time..... I've got a full set... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 As it is a Friday I thought I would post the following. I post this not knowing the basis or the truth behind this rumour. I simply pass on the information that was posted on my facebook wall by a friend who supports Wolves. He states: "I thought under the circumstances with the Saints struggling I would drop you a line to tell you a rumour I have heard from Wolverhampton. As we are top of the league it's all fine at the moment, however....Steve Morgan our chairman has been seen coming in and out of St Mary's. The talk is that he is going to table a bid to buy out Lowe. He would still be at Molineux but also own Southampton and take Mick McCarthy with him next season (as McCarthy has proved he is not a Prem manager before.) I will let you know if I hear anymore. That's the news from Wolvo anyway." Now this all seems very far fetched to me. For instance does Steve Morgan own Wolves...I did not think you could own two clubs in the Football League. Has anyone else heard anything similar? Completely against FA regulations. He would have to sell his interest in Wolves first. Having said that, maybe them being on the verge of the PL, he might have someone lined up, and be thinking he cannot afford PL-level investment for Wolves's team. Who bloody knows ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 I think I have an answer to all this and it is so simple I think it must be staring us all in the face. What if it is all a big pile of ******** and there is nothing in it whatsoever? It might be just one of those things. Apparently there have been a few before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Completely against FA regulations. He would have to sell his interest in Wolves first. Having said that, maybe them being on the verge of the PL, he might have someone lined up, and be thinking he cannot afford PL-level investment for Wolves's team. Who bloody knows ? Is he still the major shareholder in Redrow Homes? If so, you could be right, his financial position might not be strong enough to keep Wolves in the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 The big difference is when wolves were for sale Jack Hayward let the buyers (presumably this Morgan chap) have the club for a pound just as long as they commited to investing x million into the team. I think it would take more than a pound and some nice football-team related investment promises to prise the shares out of Rupert's cold, dead hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowestoft-Saint Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Completely against FA regulations. He would have to sell his interest in Wolves first. Having said that, maybe them being on the verge of the PL, he might have someone lined up, and be thinking he cannot afford PL-level investment for Wolves's team. Who bloody knows ? Maybe ! Any idea of how much Morgan paid for Wolves ? As im sure he would get heck of a lot more for them if he was looking to sell if they do make the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Maybe ! Any idea of how much Morgan paid for Wolves ? As im sure he would get heck of a lot more for them if he was looking to sell if they do make the PL. £1, someone just told you that. He undertook to invest 30 million over a lengthy period of time. Which hasn't ended yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 lolololololol i think that is illegal Its not illegal. It may be against Football League or FA Rules but that doesn't make it illegal. The Old Bill wouldn't give a toss if someone owned 2 football clubs, but Lord Mawhinney might. However, lets say Wolves are in the Premier League (FA) and Saints (being optimistic) are in the CCC (FL) I'm not 100% sure that there are rules that prevent this, though I would suspect there are. Otherwise Manure's owners or someone could also own a feeder club like Bury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 It is definately against the rules. A great rumour though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Would a merger be illegal? Wolverhampton Saints....got a ring to it.... You heard it here first.... p.s. thread creator has under 100 posts and joined in Spring 2007....plant alert.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 It is definately against the rules. A great rumour though. Definitely,definitely,definitely. Nick I wouldn't have thought you'd fall into the old definitely trap. God how that irks me that intelligent people can't spell that particular word. The rest I don't care about but it's pronouced definitely and can't even be the victim of transatlantic phonetic spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 More than likely the Wolves fan has visited this board. He's seen how desperate most of us are and thought us ripe for a good old wind up. Can hardly blame him really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Unless of course one of the two clubs mentioned sold themselves to the Hungarian team who were linked to both all last week. hmm That has nothing to do with it, unless Steve Morgan owned Ujpest....which he doesn't. Aside from this there is no way they wouldn't give McCarthy a go and the Premiership having taken them to the Premiership. Someone who has conjured this rumour up has an overactive imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Someone who has conjured this rumour up has an overactive imagination. Having seen from casual observation of this forum and it's predecessor that such tidbits are always swallowed hook,line and sinker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Perhaps Steve Morgan has a thing about 'hamptons' - check if he is also buying Northampton and Littlehampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Perhaps Steve Morgan has a thing about 'hamptons' - check if he is also buying Northampton and Littlehampton. Not to mention Okehampton and Boghampton. Ex Liverpool fan apparently, strange that, rich Liverpool fans always buy other clubs and become lifelong supporters. Same sort of thing about rich mexicans, they become spaniards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbay Saint Posted 6 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Would a merger be illegal? Wolverhampton Saints....got a ring to it.... You heard it here first.... p.s. thread creator has under 100 posts and joined in Spring 2007....plant alert.... Sadly I have been a Saints fan since the early 1980s and was on the march last Saturday and have my ticket for Bristol away. Living in Cardiff and formally torbay I travel a signficant distance to attend games so I hope that provides you with significant assurance that I am not a plant! More than likely the Wolves fan has visited this board. He's seen how desperate most of us are and thought us ripe for a good old wind up. Can hardly blame him really. The Wolves fan is not like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Would a merger be illegal? Wolverhampton Saints....got a ring to it.... You heard it here first.... p.s. thread creator has under 100 posts and joined in Spring 2007....plant alert.... [-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 If you remember Morgan's first interest was Liverpool. He could not afford them so did a deal for Wolves. I am not sure if it was £30m or £25m, but there was a commitment to invest. Wolves of course had already had a rich benefactor who paid for their stadium & ensured they had no debt. Thats sound nice - no stadium mortgage & zero debts! Why couldnt Jack heyward have been a Saints fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbay Saint Posted 6 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 February, 2009 I have asked him to provide a source for this rumour. I could not see anything on the Wolves message board but he might know more than me. I will of course post any link I am provided with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 That has nothing to do with it, unless Steve Morgan owned Ujpest....which he doesn't. Aside from this there is no way they wouldn't give McCarthy a go and the Premiership having taken them to the Premiership. Someone who has conjured this rumour up has an overactive imagination. Wolves & Saints had friendlies against Upjest, Wilde & Morgan have possible links. Morgan seen at SMS. Saints sign a CB from Upjest What else have we missed in the scramble to diss the poster is all I was pointing out. In business terms - take Wolves up sell them straight away for a nice profit as they are a PL team and buy, turn us around strip out the land and the same again. Worked in property speculation for a long time why not? At least it is a RUMOUR, been ages since we had one of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 I have asked him to provide a source for this rumour. I could not see anything on the Wolves message board but he might know more than me. I will of course post any link I am provided with. cheers. Make it snappy though as I've got to head off in half hour.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 At least it is a RUMOUR, been ages since we had one of those Aye...must be all of 48 hours.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Definitely,definitely,definitely. Nick I wouldn't have thought you'd fall into the old definitely trap. God how that irks me that intelligent people can't spell that particular word. The rest I don't care about but it's pronouced definitely and can't even be the victim of transatlantic phonetic spelling. WC state education and dreaming too much about playing for Saints...oh and then moving to a mixed secondary school after a year or so at an all boys school.being thick doesn't help either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 WC state education and dreaming too much about playing for Saints...oh and then moving to a mixed secondary school after a year or so at an all boys school.being thick doesn't help either And did you get to play for the Saints?? I mean not the A's, the real thing (well at least the reserves) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Wolves & Saints had friendlies against Upjest, Wilde & Morgan have possible links. Morgan seen at SMS. Saints sign a CB from Upjest What else have we missed in the scramble to diss the poster is all I was pointing out. In business terms - take Wolves up sell them straight away for a nice profit as they are a PL team and buy, turn us around strip out the land and the same again. Worked in property speculation for a long time why not? At least it is a RUMOUR, been ages since we had one of those Interesting , Steve Morgan does NOT own Wolves , He IS part of an Investment fund that purchased wolves . What his shareholding in Wolves is I dont know but maybe the Joe guy from the Hungarian team suggested a capital share investment with the fund and Morgan is the front man . Maybe IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 WC state education and dreaming too much about playing for Saints...oh and then moving to a mixed secondary school after a year or so at an all boys school.being thick doesn't help either nick - didn't you post something on the "Board meeting" thread about JP on the Monday about somebody on the groundstaff doing a tour for somebody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Definitely,definitely,definitely. Nick I wouldn't have thought you'd fall into the old definitely trap. God how that irks me that intelligent people can't spell that particular word. The rest I don't care about but it's pronouced definitely and can't even be the victim of transatlantic phonetic spelling. Or even pronounced. Stones and glasshouses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Aye...must be all of 48 hours.... but if it comes from Facebook, it must be true, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 We will be known as The Cubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 I've got a full set... Woosie had 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 impossible,you are not allowed to have interests in 2 clubs,robert maxwell tried it with derby and oxford (i think it was those 2 clubs??) years ago and he had to sign one of them over to his son. now if he was to give up the whole wolves thing and try and buy saints then that would be a good rumour but i cant see McCarthy wanting to stay in the championship,he got them up (well not yet) and he will want to prove a few people wrong by trying to keep them in the prem. i would like to believe it but i just cant see this rumour bear any fruit in its current form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbay Saint Posted 6 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 February, 2009 but if it comes from Facebook, it must be true, right? Hence I have asked him to source it. Unbelievable that you make a post entitled 'rumour' andplace as many disclaimers as you possibly can and it is still not good enough. Perhaps in the future I will keep information I am provided to myself. I thought this site was for fans, not just for those with the 'I have posted over 1,000 times' badge.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 And did you get to play for the Saints?? I mean not the A's, the real thing (well at least the reserves)No...but I have played at SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 We will be known as The Cubs. Nooo, that's an unlucky name, the baseball Cubs haven't won anything in 101 years, even we have done better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Hence I have asked him to source it. Unbelievable that you make a post entitled 'rumour' andplace as many disclaimers as you possibly can and it is still not good enough. Perhaps in the future I will keep information I am provided to myself. I thought this site was for fans, not just for those with the 'I have posted over 1,000 times' badge....dont let it get to you, most understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Hence I have asked him to source it. Unbelievable that you make a post entitled 'rumour' andplace as many disclaimers as you possibly can and it is still not good enough. Perhaps in the future I will keep information I am provided to myself. I thought this site was for fans, not just for those with the 'I have posted over 1,000 times' badge.... hey, I don't have many more posts than you. I was just joking but there have been so many rumours that everyone gets a little cynical. Steve Morgan might actually make one of the better suggested owners if it were to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 6 February, 2009 Share Posted 6 February, 2009 Nooo, that's an unlucky name, the baseball Cubs haven't won anything in 101 years, even we have done better than that. Roswell:p The Saints Cubs have set out to equal or better that record and we are going about it in the perfect mode so far. Torbay go with the flow and put up whatever you hear. Just remember the posters on here are like a pack of Wolves..But some like me are mere cute cubs..surely you are beginning to tell the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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