Jackson & Green

[Badger]

I am aware of Marc Jackson,from reading on here it seems he is a local chancer who has in the past talked up his "connections".Without wishing to rewrite multiple threads from the past two years,can anyone offer anything of substance in support of him though ? Background,previous sucessful ventures etc.

 

As for Green,who is he ? Apart from chairing a meeting once, what is his background and connection with Saints ?

 

Would anyone be optimistic that they could see the deal through even if they do enter a period of exclusivity ?

[ladysaint]

Stuart Green did all the IT systems at SFC so I understand.

http://www.channelweb.co.uk/crn/features/2171390/stuart-green

[batterseasaint]

I'm aware of the reputation of Marc Jackson from reading on here over the last couple of years, and also from that interview he gave when attempting to take over Bournemouth. Appears to me that the major accusations about him are that he is dyslexic, a chancer and that he couldn't back up his claims with hard cash.

 

I know absolutely nothing about Stuart Green, but it seems he is a moderately successful business man, I am guessing in much the same way as Leon Crouch. Local businessman with enough money to gain control of the club, but not enough to do a huge amount with it.

 

However, if they have indeed managed to throw together just short of 14m to gain control of the club, then I guess we can discount one of the criticisms against Marc Jackson. And frankly I am not that bothered about his dyslexia if he is going to play a major role in helping the club avoid liquidation. As for being a chancer, I guess people make this assumption on the basis that he doesn't have any significant money himself. So basically, he is a normal Saints fan with a desire to be involved in the football club that he loves, and has put in a lot of time and effort to try and make that happen. I bet there are a hundred fans on this forum who would love to be able to put themselves in the same position (and that is perhaps the major reason he gets a slating on here- a Saints fan, like us, who has the audacity to have a dream and try to make that happen).

 

However, the major issue I have is that a successful bid by these two may just prove to be as divisive as Rupert Lowe was. I can already imagine the hand-wringing on this forum if they do gain control, right from the start, when in fact a much better reaction would be to give the guys a chance to prove themselves. After all, it doesn't appear that anyone else is working hard enough to show Fry the cash, and for that reason they deserve our support.

 

For what it's worth, I would prefer the club to be taken over by someone else (the Pinnacle 'bid' sounds like a good long-term solution for Saints, while the offer of a mystery overseas party seems to promise much greater sums of cash), but if that is not to happen and Jackson and Green gain control, they have my full support.

[SaintRichmond]

I am aware of Marc Jackson,from reading on here it seems he is a local chancer who has in the past talked up his "connections".Without wishing to rewrite multiple threads from the past two years,can anyone offer anything of substance in support of him though ? Background,previous sucessful ventures etc.

 

As for Green,who is he ? Apart from chairing a meeting once, what is his background and connection with Saints ?

 

Would anyone be optimistic that they could see the deal through even if they do enter a period of exclusivity ?

 

 

 

Not a touch on Robson Green IMHO ........

[SaintRichmond]

I am aware of Marc Jackson,from reading on here it seems he is a local chancer who has in the past talked up his "connections".Without wishing to rewrite multiple threads from the past two years,can anyone offer anything of substance in support of him though ? Background,previous sucessful ventures etc.

 

As for Green,who is he ? Apart from chairing a meeting once, what is his background and connection with Saints ?

 

Would anyone be optimistic that they could see the deal through even if they do enter a period of exclusivity ?

 

 

It is obvious that Marc Jackson is not held in high esteem by many on here.

 

 

QUESTION ..... In that case, WHY, apparently, has he got the ear of Fry.... I thought Fry was no mug ....... How easy is it to dupe someone like that ??

 

..... "Bullsh*t and Brylcream" .... as was said many years ago

[dubai_phil]

It is obvious that Marc Jackson is not held in high esteem by many on here.

 

 

QUESTION ..... In that case, WHY, apparently, has he got the ear of Fry.... I thought Fry was no mug ....... How easy is it to dupe someone like that ??

 

..... "Bullsh*t and Brylcream" .... as was said many years ago

 

Answered your own question in a way.

 

Maybe they have met and talked, maybe we have simply typed.

 

But he would not have talked without a proof of funds to get to NDA and then again proof of funds with an actual bid would have had to come from the principles not from the saleman

 

HTH

[StuRomseySaint]

It is obvious that Marc Jackson is not held in high esteem by many on here.

 

 

QUESTION ..... In that case, WHY, apparently, has he got the ear of Fry.... I thought Fry was no mug ....... How easy is it to dupe someone like that ??

 

..... "Bullsh*t and Brylcream" .... as was said many years ago

 

Jackson is not the money man, he is brokering a deal and acting as the middle man, basically using the contacts he has built up in his previous job, to build a consortium.

 

It is not Jackson you should be asking the questions about, it is who is in the consortium and what sort of money they have available.

 

If they come in then I would expect Cowan back as CEO quicker than you can say 'takeover' though.

[Toomer]

Jackson is not the money man, he is brokering a deal and acting as the middle man, basically using the contacts he has built up in his previous job, to build a consortium.

 

It is not Jackson you should be asking the questions about, it is who is in the consortium and what sort of money they have available.

 

If they come in then I would expect Cowan back as CEO quicker than you can say 'takeover' though.

 

As you say Stu Jackson may well only be the man fronting the bid it will be interesting to see who the main players are.

[OldNick]

Hense my thread 'considering our options'. We have little choice but hope and pray that the people that MJ has brought together can deliver.I believe as I know of 2 of the people who have worked tirelessly to keep things on track that the people who have the money in this would not put themselves up for ridicule if they were not certain.

Hats off to those who have not gone for publicity or plaudits if this comes off.Thankyou.

[miserableoldgit]

Jackson is not the money man, he is brokering a deal and acting as the middle man, basically using the contacts he has built up in his previous job, to build a consortium.

 

It is not Jackson you should be asking the questions about, it is who is in the consortium and what sort of money they have available.

 

If they come in then I would expect Cowan back as CEO quicker than you can say 'takeover' though.

Exactly!

[JustMike]

As i said on here before, met Jackson after the forum match and from what we spoke about and just the way he was in general, i think that most of the abuse he has had on here is unfair. If he manages to secure a deal that means SFC has a future then he is OK in my book

[Pedro]

The way I see things is that there is no choice, whoever satisfies the adminstrator wins, not like selling voluntarily when a buyer can be selected.

[OldNick]

As i said on here before, met Jackson after the forum match and from what we spoke about and just the way he was in general, i think that most of the abuse he has had on here is unfair. If he manages to secure a deal that means SFC has a future then he is OK in my book

Yes I was there as you went off on 1...only kidding Mike.i thought that he was very decent and not at all a big time Charlie.Just a normal bloke who would be good company over a drink.Not the normal person you would likely to meet in a directors box.

He also was very sensible if I remember rightly he was saying that the clubs overheads had been cut by 40% and would have to be shaved more now we were down.It was responsible talk , not saying we were going to spend but to do it all in a proper manner.

I doubt there is much money to be spent but if we still have the club and Mj does with SG saves us from extinction that the many p###takers have the humility to apologise.

It is not over yet and i expect my hopes to be dashed again but this morning I feel happy.

[JustMike]

Yes I was there as you went off on 1...only kidding Mike.i thought that he was very decent and not at all a big time Charlie.Just a normal bloke who would be good company over a drink.Not the normal person you would likely to meet in a directors box.

He also was very sensible if I remember rightly he was saying that the clubs overheads had been cut by 40% and would have to be shaved more now we were down.It was responsible talk , not saying we were going to spend but to do it all in a proper manner.

I doubt there is much money to be spent but if we still have the club and Mj does with SG saves us from extinction that the many p###takers have the humility to apologise.

It is not over yet and i expect my hopes to be dashed again but this morning I feel happy.

 

yes i did!! It was over RL if i remember.

 

I agree with your post 100%, would be good if we could arrange another beer at some point too, was good.

[DT]

I read the thread title as Robson and Jerome. I hope it's not them...

[OldNick]

yes i did!! It was over RL if i remember.

 

I agree with your post 100%, would be good if we could arrange another beer at some point too, was good.

Yes it was the bit that gave it away was when you bit a chunk out of your glass as he was debated.

[Saint Billy]

Yes I was there as you went off on 1...only kidding Mike.i thought that he was very decent and not at all a big time Charlie.Just a normal bloke who would be good company over a drink.Not the normal person you would likely to meet in a directors box.

He also was very sensible if I remember rightly he was saying that the clubs overheads had been cut by 40% and would have to be shaved more now we were down.It was responsible talk , not saying we were going to spend but to do it all in a proper manner.

I doubt there is much money to be spent but if we still have the club and Mj does with SG saves us from extinction that the many p###takers have the humility to apologise.

It is not over yet and i expect my hopes to be dashed again but this morning I feel happy.

 

I'll apologies now no problems if he can push the deal through.

 

I think most of our initial concerns when we heard of his involvement was that he will be involved in the day to day running of sfc if the deal came off. The Bournemouth situation did'nt help either.

 

If he is responsible for gaining us a purchaser then he deserves an apology and some plaudits.

[OldNick]

I read the thread title as Robson and Jerome. I hope it's not them...

I wouldnt mind as they'd bring along Waterman and co with all thier money

[OldNick]

I'll apologies now no problems if he can push the deal through.

 

I think most of our initial concerns when we heard of his involvement was that he will be involved in the day to day running of sfc if the deal came off. The Bournemouth situation did'nt help either.

 

If he is responsible for gaining us a purchaser then he deserves an apology and some plaudits.

We dont know the full facts of the B'mouth thing. I do wonder if he was left at the last second holding the baby.Lightning doesnt strike twice does it??????

[bridge too far]

We dont know the full facts of the B'mouth thing. I do wonder if he was left at the last second holding the baby.Lightning doesnt strike twice does it??????

 

Any more metaphors for us, Nick?

 

:smt058just teasing

[lettuce]

If they come in then I would expect Cowan back as CEO quicker than you can say 'takeover' though.

 

Would having Cowen involved be such a bad thing? A completely clean sweep would be the best option IMHO, but if we had to have one of the "old guard" involved, would it be so bad if it was Cowen? I know he'll always be tarred with the Lowe brush, but I don't remember any particularly negative things said about him and got the impression he was reasonably well respected by folk on here...

[StuRomseySaint]

Would having Cowen involved be such a bad thing? A completely clean sweep would be the best option IMHO, but if we had to have one of the "old guard" involved, would it be so bad if it was Cowen? I know he'll always be tarred with the Lowe brush, but I don't remember any particularly negative things said about him and got the impression he was reasonably well respected by folk on here...

 

As a CEO there wouldn't be much better, as long as he completely cut ties with Askham and Lowe.

[SaintRichmond]

Jackson is not the money man, he is brokering a deal and acting as the middle man, basically using the contacts he has built up in his previous job, to build a consortium.

 

It is not Jackson you should be asking the questions about, it is who is in the consortium and what sort of money they have available.

 

If they come in then I would expect Cowan back as CEO quicker than you can say 'takeover' though.

 

 

Yes indeed ... I fear the return of The Old Guard too

[OldNick]

Any more metaphors for us, Nick?

 

:smt058just teasing

Metaphors? thats a supermarket isnt it?

Did yopu see the Socialist Labour Party broadcast last night? Lol

[OldNick]

Would having Cowen involved be such a bad thing? A completely clean sweep would be the best option IMHO, but if we had to have one of the "old guard" involved, would it be so bad if it was Cowen? I know he'll always be tarred with the Lowe brush, but I don't remember any particularly negative things said about him and got the impression he was reasonably well respected by folk on here...

I thnk that would be a good idea.he always seemed switched on and strong enough to stand up to RL

[Frank's cousin]

I think we have set ourselves such high expectations that whatever happens there will be some disspointment despite the huge positive if we survive. Our 27 years in the top flight have left their mark, we still feel a bigger club than our lowly status, and therfore dont see a few local businessmen with a couple of mill as anywhere deserving or good enough to be charge of such a 'mighty club'.... The reality is that provided we live within our means and dont have dreamers ****ing money ojuut teh door, anyone should be able to do a reasonable job in L1 - having the dynamicism, ability and money to take us forward ultimately back to the prem is another matter...

[Weston Saint]

I am not aware of Cowen being anywhere near this matter now or in the future. He has other interests keeping him busy.

[paris]

I just hope a deal is done sooner rather than later,holding out for the best deal sounds good to me ,the most important thing is having a team to support next season (SFC) let's all try and reserve our jujements until then ..

>Oh by the way being dyslexic doesn't mean you can't be succesful....

[JustMike]

Yes it was the bit that gave it away was when you bit a chunk out of your glass as he was debated.

 

i practically ate the whole glass...and spat feather all at the same time :-)

[SaintDonkey]

I'd take Cowen back - mostly because of a comment on here (or S4E probably) a while back saying that he was partial to attending punk gigs and pogoing with the best of them.

 

Obviously if that's story is untrue he can stay away

[bridge too far]

Metaphors? thats a supermarket isnt it?

Did yopu see the Socialist Labour Party broadcast last night? Lol

 

I did - and I lolled too FWIW.

 

I wonder if your chum RL has offered to 'rehouse' Viggers' ducks from the 'floating island' you and I paid for.

 

However - back on topic ...........

[OldNick]

I did - and I lolled too FWIW.

 

I wonder if your chum RL has offered to 'rehouse' Viggers' ducks from the 'floating island' you and I paid for.

 

However - back on topic ...........

BTF I am appalled at those and any others who are holding onto their privilages.They should be forced to resign in shame immediately.There is no excuse at all. They are snakes and sadly seem to be above the law and HMRC

[SP Saint]

Looking at ladysaint's link which is quite interesting, I can't believe Green has the money either.

 

I reckon we have

 

1. a pair of chancers in Green and Jackson who are bigging themselves up to the Echo - "ready to hand £500K over now". I don't believe it.

 

2. Pinnacle who aren't prepared to offer £14 million or put £500K at risk before DD.

 

3. Fry and the creditors asking an unrealistic figure of £14 million for a set of assets which is probably worth half that in the current climate.

 

I hope Leon is willing to bankroll the fun and games for a few more months while the various parties get real. If not Saints really is history in it's current form. I don't feel optimistic at all.

[Nineteen Canteen]

I'm aware of the reputation of Marc Jackson from reading on here over the last couple of years, and also from that interview he gave when attempting to take over Bournemouth. Appears to me that the major accusations about him are that he is dyslexic, a chancer and that he couldn't back up his claims with hard cash.

 

I know absolutely nothing about Stuart Green, but it seems he is a moderately successful business man, I am guessing in much the same way as Leon Crouch. Local businessman with enough money to gain control of the club, but not enough to do a huge amount with it.

 

However, if they have indeed managed to throw together just short of 14m to gain control of the club, then I guess we can discount one of the criticisms against Marc Jackson. And frankly I am not that bothered about his dyslexia if he is going to play a major role in helping the club avoid liquidation. As for being a chancer, I guess people make this assumption on the basis that he doesn't have any significant money himself. So basically, he is a normal Saints fan with a desire to be involved in the football club that he loves, and has put in a lot of time and effort to try and make that happen. I bet there are a hundred fans on this forum who would love to be able to put themselves in the same position (and that is perhaps the major reason he gets a slating on here- a Saints fan, like us, who has the audacity to have a dream and try to make that happen).

 

However, the major issue I have is that a successful bid by these two may just prove to be as divisive as Rupert Lowe was. I can already imagine the hand-wringing on this forum if they do gain control, right from the start, when in fact a much better reaction would be to give the guys a chance to prove themselves. After all, it doesn't appear that anyone else is working hard enough to show Fry the cash, and for that reason they deserve our support.

 

For what it's worth, I would prefer the club to be taken over by someone else (the Pinnacle 'bid' sounds like a good long-term solution for Saints, while the offer of a mystery overseas party seems to promise much greater sums of cash), but if that is not to happen and Jackson and Green gain control, they have my full support.

 

So a handicap is a barrier to success, I suppose we should be grateful for small mercies and that that man is not paralysed, deaf, dumb or blind.

 

MJ is a dyslexic but frankly you are not bothered. Nice! That is very magnamious of you. Regardless of anyone's thoughts on Marc Jackson we can least write you off as a bigoted moron.

 

I would throw a few sarcastic remarks your way but like a small minority of others have proven on here, it's clear you wouldn't understand them.

[JustMike]

So a handicap is a barrier to success, I suppose we should be grateful for small mercies and that that man is not paralysed, deaf, dumb or blind.

 

MJ is a dyslexic but frankly you are not bothered. Nice! That is very magnamious of you. Regardless of anyone's thoughts on Marc Jackson we can least write you off as a bigoted moron.

 

I would throw a few sarcastic remarks your way but like a small minority of others have proven on here, it's clear you wouldn't understand them.

 

the poster wasnt saying that

[batterseasaint]

So a handicap is a barrier to success, I suppose we should be grateful for small mercies and that that man is not paralysed, deaf, dumb or blind.

 

MJ is a dyslexic but frankly you are not bothered. Nice! That is very magnamious of you. Regardless of anyone's thoughts on Marc Jackson we can least write you off as a bigoted moron.

 

I would throw a few sarcastic remarks your way but like a small minority of others have proven on here, it's clear you wouldn't understand them.

 

Oh shut up and wind your neck in. I was being ironic, having a pop at those posters who have in the past criticised Jackson for his poor spelling.

[hamster]

Are we not getting to the point where it is x,y or fold? Either of x or y has to be preferable to the last one imho.

[Saint_John]

Stuart Green did all the IT systems at SFC so I understand.

http://www.channelweb.co.uk/crn/features/2171390/stuart-green

 

 

I'm not sure he "did all the IT systems".

 

Page24 of this J Brand document mentions them as "EPOS & PC Suppliers only" with somebody else suppliing the software etc.

http://www.jbrand.co.uk/_assets/files/SouthamptonFC_case_study.pdf

 

Now remind me who owns J Brand again ?

(don't bother because i already know)

[David Strover]

I was never convinced he was dyslexic anyway as his spelling was usually phonetic which is not usually a characteristic of that problem.

[egreog]

Are we not getting to the point where it is x,y or fold? Either of x or y has to be preferable to the last one imho.

 

totally agree, however I fear fold is becoming a hot favourite in the 3 horse race!!

[Nineteen Canteen]

Oh shut up and wind your neck in. I was being ironic, having a pop at those posters who have in the past criticised Jackson for his poor spelling.

 

Battersea, I have just read your post again and I apologise for my response as the irony was lost on me the first time around and having read it again I now see where you were coming from.

 

Its a sensitive subject for me (can you tell?) and coupled with the fact I strongly believe any investor should be supported in their efforts I clearly got the wrong of the stick.

 

Next time try throwing the stick I will probably chase it and p1ss your dog off.

 

Neck wound in and sorry once again.

[TNT]

Both are a pair of knobs by all accounts and hang on to the coat tails of Lowe, Cowen, Jones, Richards and Askham.

 

The word 'Spiv' seems the right word to id Mitty Jackson.

 

As for Green he looks like another loser waiting for a quick buck with no finance whatsoever.

[stthrobber]

Would having Cowen involved be such a bad thing? A completely clean sweep would be the best option IMHO, but if we had to have one of the "old guard" involved, would it be so bad if it was Cowen? I know he'll always be tarred with the Lowe brush, but I don't remember any particularly negative things said about him and got the impression he was reasonably well respected by folk on here...

 

Andrew Cowen will not be coming back to the club again according to the last communication I had from him. He told me that his association with SFC had finally come to an end and he wished everyone all the best.

 

Never say never of course, but he was desperately disappointed about the way things ended up.

[OldNick]

Both are a pair of knobs by all accounts and hang on to the coat tails of Lowe, Cowen, Jones, Richards and Askham.

 

The word 'Spiv' seems the right word to id Mitty Jackson.

 

As for Green he looks like another loser waiting for a quick buck with no finance whatsoever.

So if they save the club will you come back and apologise to them for that abuse? if they mess up then perhaps you will be correct but sometimes I wonder why they bother.

I alos notice your join date.

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

So if they save the club will you come back and apologise to them for that abuse? if they mess up then perhaps you will be correct but sometimes I wonder why they bother.

I can think of many reasons, not least of which is that they get off on the "I'm a bigshot businessman" publicity.

[OldNick]

I can think of many reasons' date=' not least of which is that they get off on the "I'm a bigshot businessman" publicity.[/quote']

Well Imo they have not courted the publicity. Show me the interviews, they were at SMS during the forum game and just sat and watched.They met up with the people who went back on the night to the pub and only spoke when they were introduced.Very low key I promise.

My reading of the Bournemouth situation was that MJ was left at the last minute by somebody pulling out, it sounds like Pinnacle had the same problem.Are you going to have a go at them for that?

[The9]

Well Imo they have not courted the publicity. Show me the interviews, they were at SMS during the forum game and just sat and watched.They met up with the people who went back on the night to the pub and only spoke when they were introduced.Very low key I promise.

My reading of the Bournemouth situation was that MJ was left at the last minute by somebody pulling out, it sounds like Pinnacle had the same problem.Are you going to have a go at them for that?

 

Suffice to say I was in the pub afterwards after the match and didn't even know they were there - though there's not much media mileage to be made in a "chatting to fans" story. I could start a conspiracy theory to go along with the HCDAJFU listing now...

 

Hey, were they drinking within sight of the pitch ? I know we had a corporate licence and all that... just asking.

[OldNick]

Suffice to say I was in the pub afterwards after the match and didn't even know they were there - though there's not much media mileage to be made in a "chatting to fans" story. I could start a conspiracy theory to go along with the HCDAJFU listing now...

 

Hey, were they drinking within sight of the pitch ? I know we had a corporate licence and all that... just asking.

They spoke to me as im important the 2 goal hero on the night they ignored

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

Well Imo they have not courted the publicity. Show me the interviews, they were at SMS during the forum game and just sat and watched.They met up with the people who went back on the night to the pub and only spoke when they were introduced.Very low key I promise.

My reading of the Bournemouth situation was that MJ was left at the last minute by somebody pulling out, it sounds like Pinnacle had the same problem.Are you going to have a go at them for that?

 

Could you blame any prospective business partners pulling out after the BS that he came out with? Let's hope that the reason he is supposedly keeping his mouth shut this time is that he has learnt a very basic lesson in how to conduct business?

[Dark Munster]