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I'm with Trump on this one, can't stand by and do **** all while innocent people get gassed. What exactly is the point in the UN when they just sit and watch while the people of Syria go through hell?

Brexit hasn't happened yet, and as positive predictions don't seem to count it's not surprising there are no known benefits yet.

Like Alan Shearer?

That fool is nothing to do with what I posted about. Any talk of war with Spain is ****ing retarded.

How is not guaranteeing the status of foreigners over here threatening anyone?

To be fair the government has a duty to protect the rights of its citizens abroad so their stance made sense.

Ahhh bless. They fed up with being laughed at?

Lets face it, when its 29 (Including EU commission & parliament) to 1 and with our own politicians also dying to stick their oars in, then there is absolutely no chance of an amicable deal within 2 years. Our best bet is just to prepare for WTO rules.

I was talking about Labour held areas, I think it was something like 7 in 10 Labour held constituencies voted for Brexit.

How do you work that one out? Bexit happened because people's concerns about immigration were just ignored, swept under the carpet by all three main parties making our democracy a farce. To make it worse anyone raising the issue was labelled racist. It's not a left v right issue, Brexit didn't come about because of the swivel eyed UKIP voters, it happened because the Labour heartlands voted for it on mass.

Is resigned magnanimity calling Brexiteers thick racist ****s?

Israel's treatment of the Palestinians is a better recruitment tool for these nutters than anything right wing nut jobs over here say or do.

Of course there are always a few nut jobs but 30,000 people thinking the 7/7 bombers did the right thing is quite a lot. This is not people who 'had sympathy for the cause' or 'understood the reasons' etc - the percentages for those are much higher they actually thought it was the correct thing to do. They watched the blood, carnage and misery caused on 7/7 and thought 'great'.

So by that survey 1% of UK Muslims thought that blowing up innocent civilians was the right thing to do. That's around 30,000 people living near us who want to see women and kids blown to bits in the name of Islam - nice.

That's because it usually is a disturbed loner, not gangs of people flying aircraft into sky scrapers, blowing up trains and airports or organised mass shootings. If it was just the odd loner I don't think anyone would be pointing the finger at the religion.

Plenty of people have spoken out about the far right, I don't remember ever hearing "whites are peaceful people, it's not a white problem" after a white supremacist mass murder.

I think we should make this our main Derby, I'm fed up waiting for that useless blue shower of ****e down the road to sort their **** out.

White extremism is a white problem, just like Islamic extremism is a Muslim problem. Islamic extremism is a far bigger threat to our safety. Honest enough for you?

Of course they are. My point is that the problem of extremism is never going to be dealt with unless people are honest. It is a Muslim problem. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful but it doesn't make it any less of a Muslim problem. People need educating and that is not done by sweeping the issue under the carpet. I have little interest in any religion and the first time I heard of Wahhabism and its roots from Saudi Arabia was from a post on here (can't remember who from). I have not seen one Muslim spokes person on TV even mention it following one of these massacres, all we ever get is "Islam is peaceful" - and they wonder why people in the west don't understand what is going on?

To be fair, if numerous 52 year olds from Kent had been committing multiple mass murders of innocents all around the world for years, in the name of "52 year olds from Kent" then we would probably have done something about it long ago.

The problem is that it is quite clearly a Muslim problem but you can't say that without people going spastic accusing you of blaming all Muslims. So the issue just gets swept under the carpet - lets just keep it simple and say it was a nutcase and Islam is peaceful then there is no issue to address.

The remain campaign handed leave the victory with their bull**** project fear and by pretending everyday issues people faced because of uncontrolled immigration didn't exist. Blaming the BBC for giving each side equal airtime is just laughable, especially when most of their coverage tended to favour remain anyway. You clearly failed to understand my point about big business, though that's not surprising.

I dunno, I think at best these sort of lone wolf attackers would have friends/associates who notice they have been acting weird or showing extreme views. Or contacts online with similar views. I doubt they are often part of any organised cell or group. The only way to try and combat it would be to have better links within the community, better surveillance online and more powers to detain people for extremist/ hate crimes. More armed police is a no brainer after what happened yesterday.

No I understand fine, it's your own distorted idea of what's fair you fail to understand. You appear to be of the opinion that some bloke from Weatherspoons' opinion carries the same weight among the general public as the governor of the Bank of England just because they are allowed the same amount of airtime.

No one is independent in politics so the way the BBC did it made perfect sense. If one side offers up the head of the Bank of England and the other some bloke from Wetherspoons then one side already has an advantage before the debate has begun. If they still lose then they obviously have the weaker argument. The idea that the BBC should decide who is independent and who is an expert and who is not in subjects like this is laughable.