VectisSaint

Renewed after much thought. Hopefully things will change over the summer that will help things improve next season. The awful home football this season made me seriously consider not renewing, together with the increased frustration of travelling due to road works etc. But after over 50 years of support the thought of not going regularly was too much. Hope its not too badd being in with the kiddy-winks next season, could have moved but like where I sit and the people around me.

Rubbish. It was hardly a weak team in terms of players. Tuanzebe was the only inexperienced player. Pogba was unavailable (family bereavement), Fellaini was suspended, Ibra, Rojo and Shaw injured (and others I think). Bringing in de Gea instead of Romero, terrible. We dropped Gabbi, Davis, Tadic, Soares, Redmond and JWP, should we have been sanctioned? Don't give a damn who plays for United on Wednesday, just want to see my team, hopefully winning, I don't go to see opposition players. If United don't put out their best team that's their lookout.

Unless he picked up injury after he arrived. Wouldn't have travelled if he was injured.

8 wins from 24 gives 10th which is mid table in most people's books, as I said. Think your obsession with arguing with me for no justifiable reason has lead to your lack of comprehension of my post (so what's new). You also missed the point completely by trying to pick an argument.

Wrong. If we played exciting football and lost every week that would be one thing, but if we played exciting football and had 42 points from 35 games only a select few would be moaning.

We've won just 8 of our last 24. Fine lines between relegation and 10th.

I think its you that may have been watching a different game. It wasn't as excruciatingly bad as Hull but it was still awful. Disjointed, slow build up, Tadic having a mare (again), Davis passing dreadful and shooting, no service etc for Gabbi, Redmond ineffectual, even Romeu playing us into trouble a few times, 2 shots on target, 2 goals. The only good performances were Stephens(again) and Cedric. Terrible game, but at least an improvement on the last home performance.

He said the worst since admin and points deduction. Really don't see much to argue with there. It is, by far. We may be 10th currently, but the lack of goals, excitement, entertainment, wins at home, players with flair and passion, manager with lack of imagination, passion or personality and a board who seemingly care not a jot means it is really very poor. Something needs to change soon and drastically.

This. Also Bertrand, like Romeu, has already been at a "big" club, seen what it does for him (nothing except earn him a CL Medal) and is seemingly content with being at a club like Southampton. As long as he continues to be part of the England set up I don't think he will be looking too hard for a move away (assuming all the Puel bust up rumours are just that of course). To me it is one of the advantages of signing someone from one of the big clubs, their desire to move to a big club is much less).

Should also include Hojbjerg (21) and probably Redmond (23). He didn't say Academy players just young ones. Didn't Harry Lewis get a league start? What ever happened to him seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth like McCarthy.

Totally agree, have said this all along. Needs to add threat up front and his passing could be improved. Think he will be England CB in the future. By the way Caceres is not on loan and I hope we do get to see and keep because he is also a top class defender.

Think you are confusing the PL with FIFA. That was an issue in the World Cup.

More to do with our coaches than scouts perhaps. Hunter has been struggling for a couple of years and Fleming has never been good enough. The Academy coaching at the top end needs a restructure.

For July 8th it would be nice to honour Markus Liebherr (always remember the day he took over as its also my birthday).

No, can you? I would be more concerned about the potential damage to one of our brightest prospects throwing him in too early. Only 19, still probably 2 or 3 years away from breaking into the 1st team. Can you imagine the meltdown on here if he was thrown in and his inexperience was shown up. Stephens has nearly 4 years on him and many on here can't cope with his learning even though he is actually showing what a class CB he is. If we had VvD playing alongside Jones it might just about work, but if had to play alongside Yoshida or even Stephens it would probably destroy the lad. No way would anyone at the Club contemplate such a reckless move at this stage, thank God.

You mean the £2 million a place nothing games? You would rather throw Alfie Jones in against Sanchez, Rooney, Origi etc.

"Form is temporary, class is permanent". We didn't pick him up on a free because he "is the dregs", we picked him up on a free because he had been recovering from injury and was without a club. Other clubs were also sniffing around (so not true that no-one else wanted him) but it was unlikely that clubs who didn't have an emergency situation, as we did, would take the chance mid season.

We had updates this week. Targett was back in training beginning of last week. Austin back in training Thursday. Virgil (via Instagram) is back running. Gardos played for the u23s, not injured. Pied not injured he was on the bench last week. McCarthy is now appearing in the West End in a stage production of the Invisible Man. Tadic likely to be out for weeks due to nearly breaking sweat.

Possibly something to do with playing nearly 70 times for Uruguay, and his club record for Juve, Sevilla and Barcelona, his 5 Serie A titles, Champions League and La Liga titles. Whether he can find his class again is open to question, but if you think he has achieved what he has without being class then clearly you have no idea, and also presumably have never seen him play.

We've been safe for a while, but is a sad indictment of our season that we will go into May still not mathematically safe. No-one can really dress this season up as a success in any way, shape or form.

Not true. When Cedric was injured the immediate reaction was to send JWP out to warm up. It was quite a while late rthat Caceres started warming up. The memory of JWP's last (?) appearance at RB came flooding back when it looked like Cedric might not continue. Martina will not be here next season (McCarthy will be 3rd choice), Pied will be backup as he already is, hopefully Caceres will be offered a contract next season, as he is clearly a class player and Stephens is fast developing into a top class CB, now showing to be the better half of the current CB partnership. Puel cannot just slot caceres in to replace Stephens (or Yoshida), they are both performing perfectly well (except yesterday for Yoshida).

Could add to our growing list of Champions League winners.

Looked class in the u23 games. I know that's not a great test but its clear that he is still at least capable of playing to a decent standard after his bad injury. I hope he gets a chance before the end of the season, but if he does it will only be because Stephens or Yoshida are injured or suspended because they are not doing anything to warrant them being dropped. Personally hope we offer him a contract for next season as well, he is clearly a top class defender.

Good to see someone talking sense. Stephens is as good as Maguire, and is a year younger. I really think some people here don't realise how good a player we have in Stephens. In another year or so he should be a very good centre back, and if he gets to play alongside VvD next season he will show his quality. He needs to improve his final ball when he plays out of defence, for sure, and he needs to add goals, but otherwise we realy have not lost anything over Fonte (maybe one goal) since Jack came in to take his place. With someone better alongside him than Yoshida he will develop. Clearly the reason why Caceres has not got a game, Stephens has proved to be more than competent, which to be fair Saints could not be sure of when Caceres was signed.

You mean like Boufal, Pied and Hassen.