Baird of the land

I’ll just check the ht and full time margin of loss then Repeating what failed utterly against a man city half strength side in midweek is crazy imo. Man city fullbacks will have a fun day as Ralph seems to decided once again to have his team cower in the box.

Rather unfortunate ending with 2 goals in stoppage time, the first a breakaway after saints poured forward at a half chance to equalise. Thought Saints played well with 10 men. You do wonder about slattery. If that's his approach its not a surprise he's been nowhere near the first team.

Lovely surging run from ramsay, shame freeman's finish was so lousy. Awful tackling technique from Slattery to earn himself a red.

At least obafemi is fit. I was worried by his absence from both games on Tuesday. Hopefully he can score a couple and get in the thoughts of Ralph for Everton game.

U23's got promoted last season didn't they? It was always likely to be a tougher season.

Let's be honest that would 4-5-1 not 4-2-3-1. I'd still like us to play that rather than cower in our box refusing to mark their fullbacks like Tue.

Probably far too much to hope that Ralph will bother trying to Mark their full backs this time round rather than letting them play as unmarked wingers

Get on the phone to Norwich & Wolves and tell them they should have dropped their trousers and let City have their way like we did.

Hung parliament.

It's hard to look good when the manager instructs his team to sit on the edge of our own box and put no pressure on any of their players.

Positives: McCarthy is much better than Gunn, he actually makes saves. Thought danso had something about him too. Hojberg did a ok job as fill in left back but i’d Rather him in midfield. Negative Ralph. Against man city reserves, the conclusion I came away with is that Ralph wanted to lose. That’s the only logic for sitting inside your box, not getting close to opposition etc. embarrassing in a different sort of way from Friday. I think a league one side would have been more ambitious.

What is the benefit to vokins development in giving him 2 minutes

Stephens does have a knack of getting decent chances at corners.

Would like to see at least once tonight us try to mark their fullbacks

Not even trying against man city reserves maybe not quite as embarrassing as 9-0 to Leicester but it is still pretty embarassing.

Don’t play 1-8-2 and sit in your own box for 45 minutes.

Thought Valery has been okish. He’s not helped by jwp refusing to ever get close to his man let alone mark him.

How’s he supposed to score(other than in his own net) when Ralph only wants man city to have the ball.

It’s not slow. They deliberately make sure they are never near the men they are meant to be marking.

Warming to the notion of sacking Ralph. Setting out a team with the objective of losing really is pathetic. Once again from a corner we let them pass the ball to the position they ideally want to cross from with no pressure.

For me it’s the fact they had 3 players on the right and hojberg was the only guy trying to mark his man.

Why won’t our players stay with their men when they haven’t got the ball!!!!!!!! The ball goes away and they wander back towards the box and suddenly man city give the ball back to the player they used to be marking.

To me it’s just the basics of not leaving their players all the time in the world on 5he edge of the box to pick out the perfect cross. They haven’t unlocked us by great play it’s our midfield stupidity

Terrible by jwp. Fortunately McCarthy came to the rescue Embarassing from corner. Just letting them pass to edge of the box with everyone switched off.

Why did we stand miles off Mahrez there. Lucky escape