OldNick

Reasonable Worst Case scenario, i expect if the Hampshire Police issued a worst case scenario for the Derby match you'd not go and board your windows up.lol If you really believe that medicines will be stopped from entering the UK you are as mad as the extreme exitters. We are being played by the establishment and falling for it hook line and sinker. Any responsible government will look at worst case as they should do, I suspect they will expect something a tad less extreme.

https://www.hl.co.uk/news/2019/9/12/germany-hides-the-awkward-truth-about-the-euro

Lol, but for all his faults he was a bloody good opening batsmen and stood up to seriously fast bowling like Lillee , Thompson as well as the WI bowlers, most of the time without protective helmets.Could have done with him in the current Ashes that's for sure

Bloody hell if Robert Mugabe was an ambassador for the UN i cant see the problem re Boycott

What if it is anther close one, do we go through with the shall we shan't we for another 3 years? What if the vote in Parliament comes down to just one vote on the deal, it will stay as a running sore forever. Revoke Article 50 maybe the only option, I suspect the Europeans will press the button anyway and rightly so, they have more important things to worry about.

Corbyn got the same on occasions as well, in fact all politicians face such stuff.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/england-u21s-failed-at-euro-2019-due-to-overconfidence-bordering-on-arrogance-says-fa-chief-les-reed/ar-AAGPRVY?ocid=spartanntp Bloody hell Reed talks about arrogance lol

Am I reading right what you are saying? The whole mess is about the border and having to have the hard border surely. Boris is not wanting that either

Yes a very decent article. As for 'banging on about getting Brexit done to end uncertainty ' I wonder if you rely on the public sector that is at this time insulated by the current climate, but if you are in the private sector you will feel the cold winds of recession kicking in.

Well how about going to negotiations telling the other side that your trump card is now not on the table. The Eu were as fearful of No deal as we are. Notice how there were some cracks appearing in the Europeans but now they can breathe again. As for getting 700 people to agree on a common theme good luck with that one. Great Britain has lost all credibility, the Brexiteers are destroying what they pertain to love and worse still have opened the door to the most left wing government in our nations history. I feel great sadness that we are sleepwalking into a bigger nightmare, and once we have had the Labour government (if they get a working majority) we will as a nation never recover. David Cameron and Nigel Farage have a lot to answer for. Enjoy full employment now while you can as once Corbyns madcap schemes are brought upon us the investment and companies will leave us in droves. I dont trust Boris but I wonder if the man in the street is tired and aware of Corbyn and co's obvious stalling and may think 'lets get on with it' and vote Boris just to get this nightmare gone.

Did his constituency vote in or out I wonder? 27 years he has been earning a fine salary and his wonderful pension. Never heard of him until today. As for the Liberals being the right people, god the leader jumps from one side to the other

Strangely enough I thought the same last night after reading the FT article telling us Labours thoughts. The retraining of the civil service to be more in line with their theories was most alarming. No more non political ideals similar to how the civil service was manipulated by the Nazis in the occupied lands.

to be fair yours is a one sided criticism. You should be even handed if you want to keep the moral high ground. IMO there has been far too much name calling on both sides.

your complacency is surprising

I saw the BBC and there was a Labour politician who said the 'a woman was marched out of Downing street at gunpoint' Chakribati? When further questioned it was she sescorted out by a policeman who had a gun. I suspect all of them in the area are armed and so difficult no to be armed, but a lie as it was not at gunpoint. All MP's are shameless in their lies and fake news.

I suspect you are correct but mainly due to the shortage of labour. We are basically fully employed Ihave read. You seem to be missing my point though (easily done with my construction of posts) increasing the MW does not mean people are better off,all it does is make the bottom line of the product higher and so the manufacturers employers have to put their prices up, so that eats up the increase and potentially more so. It is a delicate balancing act.To me taking the low paid out of tax altogether would be a better way. If it meant putting 2pon the higher rate tax to do so that would be fine by me to see those hard working people have some more. I dont employ per say and so it is not self interest that I dont wish for a hike in the minimum wage(although I suggest there are at least 5 families are totally reliant on my success however poor that may be) The grab of shareholders and business assets by the guise of 10% must go to the workers is a blatant sham and vote buyer, as it will be capped at £500 maximum the rest going to the exchequer. **** Turpin would blush at that

I agree, but we can recover from No deal. The pound is falling on the fear of both and the added scare of Corbyn will really shove it down more. It is carnage and will only get worse. The flow of foreign companies leaving the UK will increase dramatically now I feel. Any company that was borderline whether to stay or leave will IMHO go , they cant afford to wait for the change of government. As in all things there are winners and losers with the change, some I will be very happy to have had an upturn in their lives. Increasing the Minimum wage is of course a double edged sword, the wages go up but of course that means costs and potential inflation taking away any gain and perhaps more for the extra money earned. I personally dont thing a minimum of anything helps as that is where the employer will start, much like building standards they are at the minimum as that is where they all head rather than grade upwards.

To a;ll the rabid Brexiteers Id just like to say that you may have just destroyed everything that you beleive in. Reading the FT article on Corbyn and McDonnels vision for Britain sent chills own the spine. By weakening and dividing the UK your actions have opened the door for potentially the governemnt that will destroy the way of life we see now. The policies are there that will drive any hope of investment out of Britian, it will destroy theCity (60% of our national wealth) steal from shareholders, and will be basically stealing for the state. Leaving the Eu will also allow them to nationalise many industries, something they would be unable to do now. You may feel this is knee jerk but when some of you were bragging that they had joined the Labour party so get Corbyn in as their leader I said they were fools, but was told he would never get near No.10, well I suggest he is very close to doing so. You will reap what you sowed and sadly people like myself will also face the same consequences. I truly hope Im wrong and you can scoff at me,but read the article it was pretty sobering.

I was told 2ooo but not sure. I do hope there are not many fans taking their young kids as it will be frightening for them as both sets of fans will be pumped

Lol. I think there are valid posters on both sides. I can see both parts of the argument and jump from one fence to the other depending on my mood lol

Is that set in stone? Now talkagain of a sanp election, oh dear god no. Time then to turn off my social media, I cant stand my champagne socialist friends sending the links to left wing stories while their children go to public/private schools and have Waitrose home delivery

But I thought we were going to keep this the same initially, anyway? so that things could be smooth. To a layman like myself the conflicting stories can muddle, yourself and Shurlock seem to be at a better level of understanding on this but it all seems up in the air to all of us

Im sure this maybe the case, but once realism clicks in the Europeans will want it to speed up, all their produce sitting at the ports rotting will focus minds. It is a disaster but I have a faint hope that it may get sorted a tad for everybody. All I read is panic and negativity which in turn is self destructive. That is why I now think we need to jump off the boat and hopefully swim to safety, the constant bickering is driving the majority mad. As for American immigration, that is very annoying but even with a couple of planes going into Florida at the same time it never has taken us more than 2 hours to get through. Very annoying though

Im sure you wont be going.