Ian the Red Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Not sure if been posted but here is the latest from the Echo on Fry et al. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4475934.It_would_be_nice_to_tell_Saints_fans_their_club_is_safe__says_Fry/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Nice is an understatement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Not sure if been posted but here is the latest from the Echo on Fry et al. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4475934.It_would_be_nice_to_tell_Saints_fans_their_club_is_safe__says_Fry/ Though there are “still a couple of issues outstanding”, Fry exclusively told the Daily Echo “they were nothing major,”... I hope he got £500k from the Echo for the exclusivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Thanks for posting Ian. Wonder what the "minor" FL issues are? Hopefully the -10 isn't going to rear its ugly head again. Just want the deal finished so we can all look forward to next season and beyond. I might actually enjoy going to Saints games for the first time in more than a year, last season was a chore and not enjoyable as the club (and team) stank of impending mortality at most of last season's home games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 I love supporting Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 I just clicked that link, I then closed the link. Upon closing the link, the same article then started popping back up, not once, not twice, not even thrice but 23 times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Not sure if been posted but here is the latest from the Echo on Fry et al. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4475934.It_would_be_nice_to_tell_Saints_fans_their_club_is_safe__says_Fry/ "There are still a couple of issues outstanding but it's nothing major." Groundhog day...can't even be arsed to dig out the Bill Murray photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seany S Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 LOL at the comments, some bloke ridiculously includes as part of his post that he has just bought an MX5. Why would you post that? Must be a hairdresser - lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 The company (Liebherr) already have links with Southampton as only last month they provided two new cranes for the city’s container terminal in the docks. There you go then. Done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Fry Regarding the Swiss, Fry said: “I am hoping they could be what Saints need to take it back to where it should be and that’s why we are sticking so much to them.” “This international buyer seems to tick all the right boxes and we are keen to do a deal with them. So fry is keen on the Swiss bid because he feels that they are best placed to return the club to where it should be? And I thought that his sole responsibility was to getting the best price for the creditors, regardless of whether that was also good for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 I just clicked that link, I then closed the link. Upon closing the link, the same article then started popping back up, not once, not twice, not even thrice but 23 times! Thrice - a nice old fashioned and unpretentious word that should make a comeback in my opinion. Are there words to describe 4 times, 5 times etc just in case they are needed for Fry's final report when talking about exclusivity periods etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Fry So fry is keen on the Swiss bid because he feels that they are best placed to return the club to where it should be? And I thought that his sole responsibility was to getting the best price for the creditors, regardless of whether that was also good for the club. A healthly club going forward will be good for our creditors' future too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 A healthly club going forward will be good for our creditors' future too Will they remain our creditors? I thought that once they'd been paid off, at x pence in the £, that was the end of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Fry So fry is keen on the Swiss bid because he feels that they are best placed to return the club to where it should be? And I thought that his sole responsibility was to getting the best price for the creditors, regardless of whether that was also good for the club. He will do what's best for the creditors, that doesn't mean he can't release fan friendly statements to the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Fry So fry is keen on the Swiss bid because he feels that they are best placed to return the club to where it should be? And I thought that his sole responsibility was to getting the best price for the creditors, regardless of whether that was also good for the club. I think he may have forgotten what hat he is wearing today because of course the club are not in administration. Perhaps if the club was liquidated the name for the new club is staring us in the face Southampton Leisure Holdings FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Thrice - a nice old fashioned and unpretentious word that should make a comeback in my opinion. Are there words to describe 4 times, 5 times etc just in case they are needed for Fry's final report when talking about exclusivity periods etc. quadruple? quintuple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 A healthly club going forward will be good for our creditors' future too Barclays, Aviva and HMRC I expect to survive regardless of our club's state of health and the 'woe is me' attitude of some of the forumites and echo readers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Fry So fry is keen on the Swiss bid because he feels that they are best placed to return the club to where it should be? And I thought that his sole responsibility was to getting the best price for the creditors, regardless of whether that was also good for the club. He's clearly trying to maintain his integrity which, imho, I thought a administrator would not be fussed about. They're generally uncompromising, hard nosed types with a nose for a deal and little patience (or time) to mess about. His name has been questioned due to the Pinnacle debacle so maybe it's PR words to save face. Overall, get the Swiss in. Glad to see the Batchelor gaggle of idiots are a distant 3rd but Echo reporting can't be relied upon. Solent gave a more substantial explanation about the Swiss family and which branch it "may be" but corrected the Daily Mail for getting the wrong members, it's apparently their offspring involved. I think *touch wood* it's good news seeing as Davis is lingering, Stern is back, trialists in and Wotte staying on. That seems to suggest players know a little more about the future than anyone has let on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fowllyd Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Thanks for posting Ian. Wonder what the "minor" FL issues are? Hopefully the -10 isn't going to rear its ugly head again. Just want the deal finished so we can all look forward to next season and beyond. I might actually enjoy going to Saints games for the first time in more than a year, last season was a chore and not enjoyable as the club (and team) stank of impending mortality at most of last season's home games. It doesn't say anywhere in the article that the minor issues are with the League. My guess would be that it's legal niceties rather than anything else; there'll be plenty of contracts between different parties to be ironed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Will they remain our creditors? I thought that once they'd been paid off, at x pence in the £, that was the end of it? Any supplier who does work for a company in advance of being paid for it is a creditor, regardless of whether said company is in administration or not. I know the likes of Cedar Press (for example) are relatively small creditors, when held up against the likes of Barclays and Aviva, but I'm sure Cedar would prefer Saints to be taken over by an owner who can grow the business quickest as it means they would generate more revenue more quickly for themselves. (Of course assuming that the new owner wants to go with the same printing company in this example) So, I'm sure that when Fry is in discussions with the creditors they must talk about future revenue prospects as well as clawing back past revenue. Wouldn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Fry thought the Pinnacle bid was the best so how do we treat his opinion of this new bidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Barclays, Aviva and HMRC I expect to survive regardless of our club's state of health Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 quadruple? quintuple? we tried to get the club sold not once, twice, thrice or quadruple. Not what I was looking for Wes. If the English language provides a word to describe on it's own a number of attempts i.e once, twice or thrice why stop at 3. Quadruple, Quintuple doesn't really do the job does it? Quadruple he tried? Don't know as I am no expert on English but perhaps as a nation of triers we are only allowed 3 attempts and the give up and walk away. I suppose we could have fource and fice but six is going to be difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Thrice - a nice old fashioned and unpretentious word that should make a comeback in my opinion. Are there words to describe 4 times, 5 times etc just in case they are needed for Fry's final report when talking about exclusivity periods etc. Any more than three becomes several surely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 A healthly club going forward will be good for our creditors' future too I agree there is an overlap in the interests of club and creditors. However, it seems to me it depends on how any deal is structured. If I were a creditor, especially a small creditor, I'd probably want certainty and go for the deal that paid the most cash up front but I can see that the likes of Aviva might be interested in some deferred payments giving them a greater return overall than if they took all payment up front. It's also possible that some creditors could take their payment and never supply the club again (understandable) or the club could have felxibily to go with different suppliers in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Fair point. Trousers the best option for Cedar would be to encourage the club to produce a programme that people want to buy as oppose to being a means to help them identify the opposition players and increasingly our own. I take your point about smaller creditors but seriously that burger seller needs a new career for the good of his health. I used to enjoy the programme briefly for the musings of Crouch but Wilde's was just a waste of ink IMO, but admittedly not much. As for poetry in a football programme....bad enough on football forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Any supplier who does work for a company in advance of being paid for it is a creditor, regardless of whether said company is in administration or not. I know the likes of Cedar Press (for example) are relatively small creditors, when held up against the likes of Barclays and Aviva, but I'm sure Cedar would prefer Saints to be taken over by an owner who can grow the business quickest as it means they would generate more revenue more quickly for themselves. (Of course assuming that the new owner wants to go with the same printing company in this example) So, I'm sure that when Fry is in discussions with the creditors they must talk about future revenue prospects as well as clawing back past revenue. Wouldn't they? But does Fry have any duty or even moral responsibility to consider the creditors future dealings with the entity in administration, or just to get the best return for them on the money owed to them at present? I agree that some of the suppliers of goods or services would prefer the possibility of the business being taken over by somebody big financially and well known, in case they are considered as future suppliers. That way, they might also claw back some of their losses from future profits from that business. From that perspective I can see that they would be happy if the business were to be bought out by the Swiss. Frankly though, if I were one of those creditors, I would insist on a pro-forma basis if I were supplying goods or services to the club if run by Bachelor's or Jackson's lot, the same with Pinnacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 At least its a positive update and we are being kept in-form as things move along, have to say I hate this limbo state were in but understand it could be worse. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 we tried to get the club sold not once, twice, thrice or quadruple. Not what I was looking for Wes. If the English language provides a word to describe on it's own a number of attempts i.e once, twice or thrice why stop at 3. Quadruple, Quintuple doesn't really do the job does it? Quadruple he tried? Don't know as I am no expert on English but perhaps as a nation of triers we are only allowed 3 attempts and the give up and walk away. I suppose we could have fource and fice but six is going to be difficult. Four times = Fonce Five = Fince Six = Since Seven - Sence After that I am not sure of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 LOL at the comments, some bloke ridiculously includes as part of his post that he has just bought an MX5. Why would you post that? Must be a hairdresser - lol I don't know, you could ask him. He has been posting on here and the old SainsForever for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Four times = Fonce Five = Fince Six = Since Seven - Sence After that I am not sure of. Eight = ffs get on with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Any more than three becomes several surely... Several is a bit blase and not much good for golfers. How many times did you hit the little ball with your stick to get it in that little hole. I hit it thrice - well done its a par 3 hole. Next hole.... I hit it several. Several? Yes several. Several what? Oh, I don't know I hit it fice. Well done its a par 5. Sorry WSS I'm not sure several cuts the mustard as you need to pin another word to make sense and its to vague when you need to be specific. 3 times and that's our lot it appears for a language with more words than any other, we don't have a word for 4 times. I suppose we could say once and thrice but not good word economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Several is a bit blase and not much good for golfers. How many times did you hit the little ball with your stick to get it in that little hole. I hit it thrice - well done its a par 3 hole. Next hole.... I hit it several. Several? Yes several. Several what? Oh, I don't know I hit it fice. Well done its a par 5. Sorry WSS I'm not sure several cuts the mustard as you need to pin another word to make sense and its to vague when you need to be specific. 3 times and that's our lot it appears for a language with more words than any other, we don't have a word for 4 times. I suppose we could say once and thrice but not good word economy. Surely just saying 'Four times' would be ok? Yes, it isn't as efficient as one word for the purpose, but it is better then using the addition method you have described, and if you have hit something 26 times that would become a somewhat complex way! A curious 'weakness' in the English language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Four times = Fonce Five = Fince Six = Since Seven - Sence After that I am not sure of. Nice try Wiltshire but 'since' gave it away. Of course the correct use is: fourfold fivefold sixfold sevenfold The one you were having trouble with is... eightfold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Surely just saying 'Four times' would be ok? Yes, it isn't as efficient as one word for the purpose, but it is better then using the addition method you have described, and if you have hit something 26 times that would become a somewhat complex way! A curious 'weakness' in the English language. Not anymore thanks to Wiltshire prompting me to get off my backside and get the dictionary out. Just need a chiropractor now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Don't know as I am no expert on English but perhaps as a nation of triers we are only allowed 3 attempts and the give up and walk away. Yes. The saying goes, "if at first you don't succeed, try, try again" So yes. Only three attempts, I'm afraid. The Scots are different though. Where would Robert the Bruce have been if he had given up at three attempts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Not anymore thanks to Wiltshire prompting me to get off my backside and get the dictionary out. Just need a chiropractor now. Indeed, old(er) english to the rescue. Forget the Chiropractor, just lay on your front and get a wife/relative/large pet to walk on your back, Job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Yes. The saying goes, "if at first you don't succeed, try, try again" So yes. Only three attempts, I'm afraid. The Scots are different though. Where would Robert the Bruce have been if he had given up at three attempts? Or George Burley;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Indeed, old(er) english to the rescue. Forget the Chiropractor, just lay on your front and get a wife/relative/large pet to walk on your back, Job done. My dog will never get in those stilletos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Nice try Wiltshire but 'since' gave it away. Of course the correct use is: fourfold fivefold sixfold sevenfold The one you were having trouble with is... eightfold Not so, according to the Oxford English Dictionary. Q."What comes after once, twice, thrice? A. Nothing, I'm afraid. These three are the only words of their type, and no further terms in the series have ever existed (the suggestion of `quince' for `five times' is picturesque but no more!). Presumably the language has not felt the lack of them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Nice try Wiltshire but 'since' gave it away. Of course the correct use is: fourfold fivefold sixfold sevenfold The one you were having trouble with is... eightfold Are we talking about how many times you've been banned and come back on this board:confused::confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Not so, according to the Oxford English Dictionary. Q."What comes after once, twice, thrice? A. Nothing, I'm afraid. These three are the only words of their type, and no further terms in the series have ever existed (the suggestion of `quince' for `five times' is picturesque but no more!). Presumably the language has not felt the lack of them." FFS - Wes I am now once again in a state of flux. It seems my thoughtful son bought my Christmas gift The Complete Oxford Dictionary off an Ebay user based on the west coast of Africa. Just off to check my bank statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Are we talking about how many times you've been banned and come back on this board:confused::confused: Don't think so see Wes's last post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Once, twice & thrice are the only words of their type, and no further terms in the series have ever existed (the suggestion of `quince' for `five times' is picturesque but no more!). You'll just have to use "four times," "five times," and so on for anything more than thrice. Similar to primary, secondary, tertiary and nothing for fourth level of importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 we tried to get the club sold not once, twice, thrice or quadruple. Not what I was looking for Wes. If the English language provides a word to describe on it's own a number of attempts i.e once, twice or thrice why stop at 3. Quadruple, Quintuple doesn't really do the job does it? Quadruple he tried? Don't know as I am no expert on English but perhaps as a nation of triers we are only allowed 3 attempts and the give up and walk away. I suppose we could have fource and fice but six is going to be difficult. See link. There is nothing after thrice. http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutwords/once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalan Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Once, twice & thrice are the only words of their type, and no further terms in the series have ever existed (the suggestion of `quince' for `five times' is picturesque but no more!). You'll just have to use "four times," "five times," and so on for anything more than thrice. Similar to primary, secondary, tertiary and nothing for fourth level of importance. The sequence continues with quaternary, quinary, senary, septenary, octonary, nonary, denary. Words also exist for `twelfth order' (duodenary) and `twentieth order' (vigenary). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 quadruple? quintuple? Wouldn't they be the continuation of single, double, triple,... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 We're all turning into pedants while we await some concrete information about Saints... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 we tried to get the club sold not once, twice, thrice or quadruple. Not what I was looking for Wes. If the English language provides a word to describe on it's own a number of attempts i.e once, twice or thrice why stop at 3. Quadruple, Quintuple doesn't really do the job does it? Quadruple he tried? Don't know as I am no expert on English but perhaps as a nation of triers we are only allowed 3 attempts and the give up and walk away. I suppose we could have fource and fice but six is going to be difficult. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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