ladysaint Posted 15 August, 2009 Share Posted 15 August, 2009 ASAP, just got back so not sure where he was today, not on bench but we really do need this little terrier back in our midfield. Very disappointed with the performance today, went full of hope and came back deflated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 15 August, 2009 Share Posted 15 August, 2009 I'd take George Gillett if he was replacing Wotton ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintj Posted 15 August, 2009 Share Posted 15 August, 2009 ASAP, just got back so not sure where he was today, not on bench but we really do need this little terrier back in our midfield. Very disappointed with the performance today, went full of hope and came back deflated. I agree we need Gillett back in the side, and thats what being a saint is all about being full of hope before a game and then having your stuffing knocked out 90 mins later, but you like the rest of us will be full of hope again come tuesday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 15 August, 2009 Share Posted 15 August, 2009 No, we really don't. He is useless, just a younger, shorter and lightweight version of wotton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 15 August, 2009 Share Posted 15 August, 2009 Ah, here we go again. Second league game in, and fans, possibly worse off for a few jars, who watch between singing and shouting abuse at the referee and players, and they think they know better than professionals. It wouldn't be football if if wasn't for threads like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 15 August, 2009 Share Posted 15 August, 2009 No, we really don't. He is useless, just a younger, shorter and lightweight version of wotton. He's exactly like Wotton I agree, except that Gillett can pass, tackle and run... well. Ah, here we go again. Second league game in, and fans, possibly worse off for a few jars, who watch between singing and shouting abuse at the referee and players, and they think they know better than professionals. It wouldn't be football if if wasn't for threads like this. Hmmm, to be fair though ladysaint is right. Gillett was one of the only highlights from a terrible season last year and without him we look spineless and lacking in ideas. He's our best midfielder by quite a long way, and he's sat on the bench. You can understand why fans are baffled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northam Girls Posted 15 August, 2009 Share Posted 15 August, 2009 ASAP, just got back so not sure where he was today, not on bench but we really do need this little terrier back in our midfield. Very disappointed with the performance today, went full of hope and came back deflated. Totally agree - he was def there and knew he wasn't even on the bench when he got off the coach - he looked so down and miserable. he may not be a BIG player in stature but his heart and effort more than makes up for his lack of stature. He plays 150% and that rubs off on those around him - please AP bring our little dynoma back soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 August, 2009 Share Posted 15 August, 2009 Gillet, the best that saints can get............... sorry On another note, Wotton is f*cking ****, worst player ever in a saints shirt, slow, can't pass, f*cking useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilza Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 No, we really don't. He is useless, just a younger, shorter and lightweight version of wotton. If you had ever watched Wotton play and then watched Gillett you would realise they are worlds apart in footballing ability!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsforlife7 Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Have to agree to this one, Gillett might be the worlds greatest but at least he can run and harry people, and doesn't look scared every time he gets the ball which is what we missed today, Morgan needs to float imo and needs somebody like Gillett around him to go biting at ankles of the opposition and force them into mistakes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Wotton is total axe wound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 I do agree, Gillett is a brilliant midfielder. He chases everything and he literally nips at peoples ankles to get the ball. His distribution and control is brilliant and he can switch the play quickly. His only downfall is his size and lack of strength. However as another poster said, he makes up for that in his passion and work rate. In terms of Pardew, I think he sees Sneiderlein as his best midfield because of his talent. However this guy is not a tackler and doesn't have the strength, similar to Gillet. Therefore if Pardew wants to play Sneiderlein he has to put Wotton in with him as Wottons is a tough tackler and isn't scared of going in for a tackle, despite the fact he is sh*t at everything else. I think Pardew knows this and it could maybe the reason he has brought in Mellis. Only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 People keep banging onabout gillet, Morgan and Gillet will not get us out of this league. We need a leader someone with vision. I can see why he plays wotton I stead as he leads however poor he is. Obviously wotton is a stop gap until he gets his new man in for the centre. Gillet is defo for the future just not yet imo. Crowds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 No, we really don't. He is useless, just a younger, shorter and lightweight version of wotton. I wonder if you have ever seen either play ?? Whatever one thinks of their respective abilities, they are chalk and cheese in respect of their style and I think that is the main point being made ie. he would gel better with Schneiderlin ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 I wonder if you have ever seen either play ?? Whatever one thinks of their respective abilities, they are chalk and cheese in respect of their style and I think that is the main point being made ie. he would gel better with Schneiderlin ! Yes I have, and have played against Gillet in a pre season game. He was **** then. He has no touch and can't pass for ****. He looks like he does a lot because he is a 'busy' player. He would not be able to play with Schneiderlin as he can't pass the ball 10 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 16 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Totally agree - he was def there and knew he wasn't even on the bench when he got off the coach - he looked so down and miserable. he may not be a BIG player in stature but his heart and effort more than makes up for his lack of stature. He plays 150% and that rubs off on those around him - please AP bring our little dynoma back soon Thanks for that NG he must have been disappointed to not have been named in one of the 7 subs, I hope that is remedied at Swindon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 People keep banging onabout gillet, Morgan and Gillet will not get us out of this league. We need a leader someone with vision. I can see why he plays wotton I stead as he leads however poor he is. Obviously wotton is a stop gap until he gets his new man in for the centre. Gillet is defo for the future just not yet imo. Crowds We don't need Wotton for leadership qualities. We have Davis and Murty who are perfectly capable in that department. What is the point in having Wotton purely for his alleged leadership qualities when in all other departments he is completely useless, even at this level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Last season we were at our best when we had Gillett and Morgan in CM.....Wotton is gash, the Chelsea nipper is completely unproven. I think it is a crying shame that Gillett is not being played. Pardew has several of his own signings now so he will not be able to moan about our poor squad for much longer......nor are we a team made of up youngsters this year either so that card cannot be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint75 Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Yes I have, and have played against Gillet in a pre season game. He was **** then. He has no touch and can't pass for ****. He looks like he does a lot because he is a 'busy' player. He would not be able to play with Schneiderlin as he can't pass the ball 10 yards. Football is full of opinion........it's just that yours seems very wrong. I can see why he plays wotton with MS, we just need a footballing version of him, with similar stature, experience and verbal organisation, but one that can pass and read the game and not chase shadows! Gillet is not ****, he makes mistakes yes, but has room for improvement as he is young, Wotton is not going to get any better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madsent Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 People keep banging onabout gillet, Morgan and Gillet will not get us out of this league. We need a leader someone with vision. I can see why he plays wotton I stead as he leads however poor he is. Obviously wotton is a stop gap until he gets his new man in for the centre. Gillet is defo for the future just not yet imo. Crowds Gillett may look like a kid but he isn't one. He'll be 24 soon. If he's not good enough now, he needs to go elsewhere. FWIW, I think he's worth a place in the side but he's not playing purely because of his lack of height. If we had another big lump at CB in place of Perry, there would be less need to play Wotton who isn't that tall but is aggressive and decent enough in the air. As we've seen even early in the season, winning games in L1 is about defending and scoring from set pieces. Open play is just time-wasting for a lot of the teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 No, we really don't. He is useless, just a younger, shorter and lightweight version of wotton. Rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 I do agree, Gillett is a brilliant midfielder. He chases everything and he literally nips at peoples ankles to get the ball. His distribution and control is brilliant and he can switch the play quickly. His only downfall is his size and lack of strength. However as another poster said, he makes up for that in his passion and work rate. In terms of Pardew, I think he sees Sneiderlein as his best midfield because of his talent. However this guy is not a tackler and doesn't have the strength, similar to Gillet. Therefore if Pardew wants to play Sneiderlein he has to put Wotton in with him as Wottons is a tough tackler and isn't scared of going in for a tackle, despite the fact he is sh*t at everything else. I think Pardew knows this and it could maybe the reason he has brought in Mellis. Only time will tell. Mellis is similar to MS and needs to have a tough creative structure around him in order to be able to perform to his best. He is like so many of our youngsters. Promising, though more talented, however relatively inexperienced, and his baptism of fire in league 1 must have been a shock to him. He was not the right sub we needed at that time, unless Morgan was injured or tiring. Gillett would have done a better job in the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Football is full of opinion........it's just that yours seems very wrong. I can see why he plays wotton with MS, we just need a footballing version of him, with similar stature, experience and verbal organisation, but one that can pass and read the game and not chase shadows! Gillet is not ****, he makes mistakes yes, but has room for improvement as he is young, Wotton is not going to get any better! You have obviously not played football at a high level then. What I am saying is 100% correct. He is so easy to play against it's unbelievable. He makes too many mistakes, poor touch and poor passing contribute to that. It wouldn't suprise me if his pass completion rate was around 50%. Gillet is not young anymore. He should be nearing his best as he should really be about 2-3 years away from getting close to his best. He is no where neat good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 You have obviously not played football at a high level then. What I am saying is 100% correct. He is so easy to play against it's unbelievable. He makes too many mistakes, poor touch and poor passing contribute to that. It wouldn't suprise me if his pass completion rate was around 50%. Gillet is not young anymore. He should be nearing his best as he should really be about 2-3 years away from getting close to his best. He is no where neat good enough. Schnizzle my nizzle J Bizzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 you all sneer at the Bizzle..but he is right to an extent as pardew keeps him on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 you all sneer at the Bizzle..but he is right to an extent as pardew keeps him on the bench Gillett wasn't a sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 you all sneer at the Bizzle..but he is right to an extent as pardew keeps him on the bench So TDD........ you would play Wotton rather that Gilly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 He's exactly like Wotton I agree, except that Gillett can pass, tackle and run... well. Hmmm, to be fair though ladysaint is right. Gillett was one of the only highlights from a terrible season last year and without him we look spineless and lacking in ideas. He's our best midfielder by quite a long way, and he's sat on the bench. You can understand why fans are baffled. Tbf, I don't disagree with Ladysaint. It's just the speed of reaction. You never know the next game, Pardew will act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opthomps Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 I think that Gillett is ok and might well do better than Wotton, but I don't think he is the answer. We desperately need new blood there, someone with some class who can organise play and who is proven. Someone like Oakley or Holland would be ideal next to Spiderman for us. Come on AP find us a gem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 I think Gillet is really what we need. Real energy in the midfield. I really can't believe he's being left out because of Wotten. Also, when is Holmes going to be back ? He'd do a cracking job in this league and we are desperately missing a natural winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 I think Gillet is really what we need. Real energy in the midfield. I really can't believe he's being left out because of Wotten. Also, when is Holmes going to be back ? He'd do a cracking job in this league and we are desperately missing a natural winger. I think we are finding out why Derby we keen to get shot of "such a great winger": he is another of a fine collection of knackered pit ponies we have been suckered, and lumbered, with over recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Mellis is similar to MS and needs to have a tough creative structure around him in order to be able to perform to his best. He is like so many of our youngsters. Promising, though more talented, however relatively inexperienced, and his baptism of fire in league 1 must have been a shock to him. He was not the right sub we needed at that time, unless Morgan was injured or tiring. Gillett would have done a better job in the circumstances. Mellis will close down more than MS and get further forward. MS reminds me of Safri - he likes plenty of possession and can pick a pass. An altogether less energetic player and needs players around him to pass, move and find space. As I said, when Mellis was signalled to come on, we were 1 down and so a more attacking option wasn't completely silly. Btw, Gillett wasn't even on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 So TDD........ you would play Wotton rather that Gilly? just dont know will be honest, not seen a great deal of gillet..but he was pap when he came on against millwall.. I dont really care if he was decent for blackpool a few years back..we are not blackpool and we are not a few years back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Gillett wasn't a sub. there you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 just dont know will be honest, not seen a great deal of gillet..but he was pap when he came on against millwall.. I dont really care if he was decent for blackpool a few years back..we are not blackpool and we are not a few years back... Did you not see him play last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 ASAP, just got back so not sure where he was today, not on bench but we really do need this little terrier back in our midfield. Very disappointed with the performance today, went full of hope and came back deflated. I think he is one of the few youngsters we have with potential to be honest. Not sure about any of the other Academy crop - less Lallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Did you not see him play last season? a few times...did not think he was that great...even though we were beyond shyte too... Lallana is another one I dont think is right for our team at this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 a few times...did not think he was that great...even though we were beyond shyte too... Lallana is another one I dont think is right for our team at this time I think that is a fair comment. I would use Lallana on the bench. God I hope AP can attract in some more Lamberts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 (edited) a few times...did not think he was that great...even though we were beyond shyte too... Lallana is another one I dont think is right for our team at this time Neither do I I dont really know what position he can fill Although very skillful he does not seem to be a striker winger or central midfield player Edited 16 August, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Neither do I I dont really know what position he can fill Problem is, you sort of need to build a team around what Lallana does, and frankly he isnt YET good enough at what he does. I think he's a bench player for a season or two more until he matures. BUT he has potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Neither do I I dont really know what position he can fill he does not fill a position.. sure he will have a great game every now and then that we can get all excited about.. but week in week out, for this league, with a striker like Lambert who is a goal machine, you need to play wide players and pepper crosses in the box..which we dont do... call it direct, some might call it hoofball..personally, i could not give a flying and pity the football snobs (if you can be that in league 1) this league is simple really...Hard players, less skill, reliant on set pieces with lots of ball thrown into the box... i know it is easier said than done, but im sorry, playing lallana wide at this time is not right for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Did you not see him play last season? Gotta agree with this sentiment, I thought Gillett was one of the few positives gained from last season, he looked very promising and active, and I struggle to understand how Wotton is higher up in the pecking order. I'm not criticising Pardew or anything like that, as it is important to get behind the team, but Gillett should be in that team, he has a lot of promise, especially in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Gotta agree with this sentiment, I thought Gillett was one of the few positives gained from last season, he looked very promising and active, and I struggle to understand how Wotton is higher up in the pecking order. I'm not criticising Pardew or anything like that, as it is important to get behind the team, but Gillett should be in that team, he has a lot of promise, especially in this league. Gillett is tenacious and doent know when to give up. A play maker too. But, inexperienced. For me he's another bench player for a season or two but as there is simply no one else YET good enough in midfield from the current team he certainly should play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Gillett is tenacious and doent know when to give up. A play maker too. But, inexperienced. For me he's another bench player for a season or two but as there is simply no one else YET good enough in midfield from the current team he certainly should play. Inexperienced yes, but now is the time for him to shine. He has played in this league before (Don't forget he won a League One playoff final )and now the time is right for him to step up to the mark. He has got the ability and there is no better time than now for him to really push on and perform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Inexperienced yes, but now is the time for him to shine. He has played in this league before (Don't forget he won a League One playoff final )and now the time is right for him to step up to the mark. He has got the ability and there is no better time than now for him to really push on and perform. I dont think we have a choice. He has to play... unless AP can buy someone better and we can put him on the bench until he matures... fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 other than Murty, Harding and Lambert i am not convinced that any one else at the club will be good enough to help us out of this division. Even KD, WHO HAS BEEN BRILLIANT at times, imo costs us goals at set pieces because of his lack of height( how many have we condeded like the Millwall goal over the last few seasons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 LOL@allyoulotthinkingyouknowaboutfootball. There is a reason pardew hasn't picked him and it's for the reason's i've said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 Gillett can pass :smt081 To the other team, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 16 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 August, 2009 LOL@allyoulotthinkingyouknowaboutfootball. There is a reason pardew hasn't picked him and it's for the reason's i've said. You really dont like the lad do you, he must have nutmegged you a few times too many :-). I dont think anyone is saying that he is the best ever midfielder but at least he gets stuck in, wins a few balls and gives a 100 per cent commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 August, 2009 Share Posted 16 August, 2009 there must be a reason why pards does not pick him...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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