saint_stevo Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 While he is our back-up we are screwed. Turns when he should clear it, hoofs when he should look-up, pedestrian on the ball and would look average in the Blue Square. Needs to be loaned out and hope for the best, not be our 3rd CB. Garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sfc90 Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 He really is one of those players that you look at and think, just how is he even playing at this level of football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 This i can agree with, like f*cking bambi on ice, and i thought davenport was bad (why we got relegated from prem ) But CD looks like bloody terry compared to ollie, who is farking terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 If I couldn't do my job u wiukdy be loaned out I'd be managed out. He's ****ing useless can't head can't tackle can't clear a ball, can't kick straight only perso. Whoa worse us wotton ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Wouldn't even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 August, 2009 he is that bad, he makes Thomas look good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 I didn't think he looked that bad tonight - was certainly better than in his cameo against HUddersfield. Edit - I guess everything is relative! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Wancashire !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team-saint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 We need to stop kidding ourselves that players like this even have potential. Lancashire should be released and then try to work his way up from non-league level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 (edited) Personally i feel Luke Byles was a better prospect but hey ho, thats just me, he should be called lancaf**kingdire. Edited 19 August, 2009 by Smirking_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 August, 2009 i could do a better job with one ACL and a beer belly. Rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 i could do a better job with one ACL and a beer belly. Rubbish Well, that i am not sure about. I didn't think you could with two ACL's and with a much smaller beer belly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Well, that i am not sure about. I didn't think you could with two ACL's and with a much smaller beer belly Just to add my thoughts, which are pretty ground-breaking..... Lancashire is S H I T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Lancashire is a joke. I cannot believe he is still at the club. Maybe we could bring back Ali Dia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 I didn't think he looked that bad tonight - was certainly better than in his cameo against HUddersfield. Edit - I guess everything is relative! Agreed, I haven's seen him before this season but actually he didn't do much wrong except that like the rest of the team in the first half he didn't seem to realise that we had changed ends before kick off. I don't think he was at fault for the goal (but I couldn't see very well because of the annoying pillar in the middle of the Arkells), and he gave the ball away less than Thomas, James, Spiderman and Wotton. Agreed he's not great but as a back up in League One he is probably OK, but unfortunately with some when the mind id made up they see nothing good. There are worse problems with the team, most of them ending in Wotton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Cant he fook off home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 I thought that the first time I saw him & if anything he has got worse. Every time i hear about Matt Mills I get angry - he could & should have been playing for us right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Albert Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 This thread is nice for the young lad and his family. If he's not already depressed and disillusioned he certainly will be now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northam Girls Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Agreed, I haven's seen him before this season but actually he didn't do much wrong except that like the rest of the team in the first half he didn't seem to realise that we had changed ends before kick off. I don't think he was at fault for the goal (but I couldn't see very well because of the annoying pillar in the middle of the Arkells), and he gave the ball away less than Thomas, James, Spiderman and Wotton. Agreed he's not great but as a back up in League One he is probably OK, but unfortunately with some when the mind id made up they see nothing good. There are worse problems with the team, most of them ending in Wotton. People really annoy me at times - they think Ollie is crap so they will only ever see crap. The lad did a lot better than Thomas last night and at one point played a wonderful through ball that nearly led to a goal. They talk about experience, how they hell does he get experience if you don't let him play. It didn't help that Murty was missing but give the boy a chance for goodness sake not everything he does is as bad as people are making out. I'd rather have Ollie than Wotton any day at least he passes it to one of ours ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 I thought that the first time I saw him & if anything he has got worse. Every time i hear about Matt Mills I get angry - he could & should have been playing for us right now. Same with Craine, those two where really badly managed by the club by various different people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 People really annoy me at times - they think Ollie is crap so they will only ever see crap. The lad did a lot better than Thomas last night and at one point played a wonderful through ball that nearly led to a goal. They talk about experience, how they hell does he get experience if you don't let him play. It didn't help that Murty was missing but give the boy a chance for goodness sake not everything he does is as bad as people are making out. I'd rather have Ollie than Wotton any day at least he passes it to one of ours ! damn right, i thought he played ok last night too. Wotton is surely out of the reckoning now Hammond has arrived. Fingers crossed![-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 He's not ready for first team football at this level. He's not the worst player in the world, he just needs to learn how to toughen up a bit. A loan out would do him the world of good. Worryingly for us, he's not even really back up at the minute. He looks to be alternating with Perry, as his old legs can't handle a game every week. We desperately, desperately need 2 new CB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 He in no way should be a paid professional footballer. Incredibly poor, no pace, weak, can't read the game, the list goes on. I feel he is more suited to local league or a team like Winchester or Salisbury. It would be great if Bournemouth took him on loan but i fear he would be found out at league 2 level as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 He did OK last night, but much as I hate to criticise players who pull on the Saints shirt, he really is not good enough (at the moment) to play in the first team - certainly not in such a crucial position given our track record on set piece defending. Trouble is we have no alternative (yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eklund86 Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 This thread is nice for the young lad and his family. If he's not already depressed and disillusioned he certainly will be now... Completely agree - it's more than likely he reads this site. However i dont think at the moment he is anywhere near good enough but slatting him in public is not the answer. It seems to be the case that most of the people on here are thick as s**t and know nothing about football so at some point they have to be moaning about one player. your menat to support you team, some people on here need to start doing that! Finally back to the original point he needs to go on a season loan to league 2 where he can learn the game and build strength and confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 However i dont think at the moment he is anywhere near good enough but slatting him in public is not the answer. Unless it galvanises him to prove people wrong...? But, yes, in principle, I don't see overt public criticism as the most positive way of helping his cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Completely agree - it's more than likely he reads this site. However i dont think at the moment he is anywhere near good enough but slatting him in public is not the answer. It seems to be the case that most of the people on here are thick as s**t and know nothing about football so at some point they have to be moaning about one player. your menat to support you team, some people on here need to start doing that! Finally back to the original point he needs to go on a season loan to league 2 where he can learn the game and build strength and confidence. I was supporting the team last night, and noticed that, again, Lancashire was sh*t This may or may not be his fault, he could just have been born like it. But he is our back-up at CB. Which is worrying. If he does read the site (i doubt he pays a 5er to read the main board tho, if he looks at all) then i hope he proves us wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairdylegend Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 He is our back up at centre back....back up to 2 **** poor centre backs. Hes a poor player, he doesnt have any particular strength, hes more a jack of all trades, all being very poor. I hate picking on individual players, but lets be honest, hes ****, so is Wotton, so is Perry, and a few others. Well done Dean Hammond on putting such a brave face on joining a team 18 points adrfit of ur former club....at least the bigger pay packet will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 At the beach this afternoon apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Technically at the club we have five Centre backs, or players that can play centre back, who are in or around the first team squad, thats Perry, Thomas, Lancashire, Wotton and Mellis (alledgedly). I wouldn't have any in my first team to be perfectly truthful, hence the need for two newbies. Perry started his career as a right back, but despite his height was converted to centre back. Thomas, as I've said before, would've been shot if he'd been a horse and would now be Pritt Stick. Wotton should be shot full stop if what I read on here is to be believed. Lancashire is not a League One player, a red card waiting to happen, and Mellis is, as yet, untried and perhaps best suited to being outfield. Whilst we have this set of centre backs, it's hard to know what to do. Thomas, I suppose, is our best centre back, so long as he stays fit, but I wouldn't partner any of them with him. Could Harding play centre back? Having not seen him play, people say he's very good defensively... Just wondering. Then we'd have Mills at left back when fit. Hey ho, stick with the familiar until we get the new centre back. Thomas and Perry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 , but much as I hate to criticise players who pull on the Saints shirt, he really is not good enough You can also say the same about pretty much every player last night with the Exception of SKD and the strikers. I only say this about the strikers as they were completley starved of service. I dont think E'to and Rooney would score goals in this team as the service is so poor. The problem is the Saints academy are living of the glories of Walcott and Bale and because of these two exceptional players, the rest of the graduates are thought of in the same way where the two fore mentioned have more talent in their little toes than their former ex team mates, And for this reason I think that certain players may have had their carreers ruined by being thrown in to the lions den too soon, which the person to blame is Rupert fookin Lowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 At the beach this afternoon apparently. Shore...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Thomas, I suppose, is our best centre back, so long as he stays fit, but I wouldn't partner any of them with him. Agreed. I still hold some hope for Thomas. Let's not forget that the guy has been out injured for a very long time. I'm prepared to give him a couple more games to get up to speed before I start calling for him to be discarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Rather than completely destroy him as a person and footballer just maybe rephrase things to something along the lines of he just is not up th standard that Saints need! I hope he does not read this site cos if he does then this could really shatter him and out us even more in the mire when we may have no other alternative than use him in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Thought Lancashire did OK last night. Much better than I had expected after his 10 minute spell at Huddersfield. Still needs to improve and all that, but I'm more worried about Thomas and Perry than I am Lancashire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Thought the back of 5 of Davis, Murty, Thomas, Perry and Harding looked the best combo I have seen in a good while against Millwall. Lancashire needs to get a bit of confidence back and maybe a loan away is the answer. From memory he was a talented youth prospect and to be fair has had to ensure playing in a losing team at a key development time for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayling Saint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Give the lad a chance. He needs to build his confidance and I don't think that we are helping him do that at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Olly is like so many young players he needs a role model within the team, who was our last proper better than average CB? Claus ? who struggled without Killer Killer ? last real game V Liverpool 2004 Baird ? RB who stepped in due to injury Olly also suffers as we no longer play against proper reserve teams thanks to prem deciding that only prem teams can play their reserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Shore...? yep, he was boasting about it on facebook. i stalk hiim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 I don't think last season did him any favours getting sent off in his first start, then again later in the season I believe. Couple this to playing in a team that liked to make our 18 yard box the Alamo, without a commanding partner to learn from. The last thing that you need to be told by the fans is that you are sh1t, that just makes matters worse especially when you know have 20,000 pairs of eyes watching you at home, the bulk of whom are waiting to moan and groan if you make an error. You don't fluke your way through the academy system into the first team, AP must see something in him to pick him in the team. Maybe a loan spell when we have enough cover might be the tonic he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marchwood_Saint Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 People really annoy me at times - they think Ollie is crap so they will only ever see crap. The lad did a lot better than Thomas last night and at one point played a wonderful through ball that nearly led to a goal. They talk about experience, how they hell does he get experience if you don't let him play. It didn't help that Murty was missing but give the boy a chance for goodness sake not everything he does is as bad as people are making out. I'd rather have Ollie than Wotton any day at least he passes it to one of ours ! What game were you watching?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 20 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 20 August, 2009 What game were you watching?!?! He must have had those rose tinted spec's on again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 He must have had those rose tinted spec's on again she..!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 What game were you watching?!?! Same one as me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 At the beach this afternoon apparently. Should have got in the sea and kept walking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Needs to go out on loan, firstly to a Conference team (Oxford, or similar), then to a League 2 team (Torquay) to try and build some confidence. He may find that either of those are his actual level but he may excel and come back to us a much better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Ollie needs to be loaned out to a League 2 club to regain his confidence. He must have had skills to have got as far as he did. He needs to play a few games in a winning side. He won't get that here while he is in the team, I fear. One for the future, possibly, but the jury has to be out on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Thought Lancashire did OK last night. Much better than I had expected after his 10 minute spell at Huddersfield. Still needs to improve and all that, but I'm more worried about Thomas and Perry than I am Lancashire. He certainly wasn't the worst player on the pitch,thats not saying much though,is it. Just needs to build his confidence up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 He is certainly crap at the moment but he is young for a centre half and should only be loaned out not jettisoned. He may turn into a different player when he gets some body weight - at the moment he is just pushed off the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 I agree he should be loaned out, because he is bloody carp at the moment !!! See how he does with a couple of teams a few divisions below, seeing him play it is not just his physicality, he seems tactically inept and is out of position far too often. Saying that, the last completely sh*te centre back we had seems to be making a career for himself, where is calum these days ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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