converted_saint Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 This should probably be put on a different thread but I couldn't be arsed to sift through and find it... I was at a Christmas do last night where I met the wife of one of Saints' physios who told me that Liebherr has released "sizeable funds" for Pardew to strengthen the playing squad in January. Interesting times ahead methinks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Nice news if true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 This has been alluded to on other threads. I want Beckford... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 I think Markus has probably looked at the situation...and he realizes that there is a chance if we could get up last season, than the ''5 year plan'' could become a 3 year plan. If we can just add to the squad a bit more in January with real quality, then we have a massive chance. for the first time ever, i'm really really looking forward to this window - we won't have to worry about losing any of our key guys either. I'd expect us to do another ''marquee'' signing. if that's beckford, i don't know - but Simeon Jackson is the next best option IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 It would be hard for Leeds, at top of table and going for auto promotion to stomach selling to team below them. Not sure how well placed they are financially? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Even in League 1, you are going to need sizeable funds to prize anyone decent away from their club in January. I'll see your Beckford and raise you an Adam Le Fondre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 It would be hard for Leeds, at top of table and going for auto promotion to stomach selling to team below them. Not sure how well placed they are financially? Enough to ask for £4-5m. Which is way over the top for him. Think we'll get Lee Barnard from Southend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 I think Markus has probably looked at the situation...and he realizes that there is a chance if we could get up last season, than the ''5 year plan'' could become a 3 year plan. If we can just add to the squad a bit more in January with real quality, then we have a massive chance. for the first time ever, i'm really really looking forward to this window - we won't have to worry about losing any of our key guys either. I'd expect us to do another ''marquee'' signing. if that's beckford, i don't know - but Simeon Jackson is the next best option IMO... It was probably tongue in cheek, but AP was saying "imagine Beckford and Lambert playing together". Don't tease us, Alan .... unless you can make it happen. IMO, I can't see him leaving the top side in the league with a 90% chance of promotion for a midtable side. Unless we can double his wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 It would be hard for Leeds, at top of table and going for auto promotion to stomach selling to team below them. Not sure how well placed they are financially? I'm not sure, they've not got that debt hanging over them anymore from the premiership days - and they pocketed £8m in the summer from selling Delph i know alot of Leeds' fans aren't too happy with the way Bates is withholding the money though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
converted_saint Posted 18 December, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 December, 2009 I'd love Beckford, but I don't think it's realistic tbh. I don't think he's going to leave a team virtually guaranteed promotion to come to one battling for the play-offs. Having said that though, I did read Pardew's comments the other day where he said that Beckford and Lambert would compliment each other so maybe there is hope! http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1908405,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 It was probably tongue in cheek, but AP was saying "imagine Beckford and Lambert playing together". Don't tease us, Alan .... unless you can make it happen. IMO, I can't see him leaving the top side in the league with a 90% chance of promotion for a midtable side. Unless we can double his wages? or tripple his wages! i don't think we'd get him though, it just wouldn't make sense. One thing though, Bates and Co would def. listen to offers for him - as he's out of contract in the summer and up to now has been refusing to sign. The thing is though...he's not signing because he wants to play in the championship, so he's waiting to see where they end up i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Sorry for being a bit nieive or however you spell it. But does Beckford actually belong to Leeds or is he on loan. If he is on loan who from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Sorry for being a bit nieive or however you spell it. But does Beckford actually belong to Leeds or is he on loan. If he is on loan who from? Leed's home and grown. He was on loan at scunny a few seasons back - but when leeds came down to L1 he became a prominent figure in their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Ok, So where are our weakest areas? RCB RB CM (to cover for Jaidi) Striker (to cover for Connolly) surely. From the Championship or lower leagues (realistically) and if we could cherry pick, who are the players that would suit us best? Remember, skills are useless without temperament, attitude and teamwork. We don't want a troublemaker in the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 CM (to cover for Jaidi) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Ok, So where are our weakest areas? RCB RB CM (to cover for Jaidi) Striker (to cover for Connolly) surely. From the Championship or lower leagues (realistically) and if we could cherry pick, who are the players that would suit us best? Remember, skills are useless without temperament, attitude and teamwork. We don't want a troublemaker in the dressing room. RB - Priority imo. Let's see what City say if we put in a bid for Logan...the guy on-loan at Tranmere. and another CM - someone like Racon or Abdu (as i keep mentioning...) i think pard's has made a striker his priority though, he's mentioned in a few interviews that everything goes through lambert...and we don't have any cover for him. So i'd expect us to get a striker of a similar stature...patrick agyemang? he was interesting us in the summer and has been transfer listed at QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Agyemang would be a quality signing, if only to stop him scoring against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 It would be hard for Leeds, at top of table and going for auto promotion to stomach selling to team below them. Not sure how well placed they are financially? Maybe but perhaps they wouldn't have a choice if we offered them enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Enough to ask for £4-5m. Which is way over the top for him. Think we'll get Lee Barnard from Southend. No chance. Last time I checked his contract was up in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Beckford would be a class signing, can't help but think he will be waiting for a big pay day in the summer when he's a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 No chance. Last time I checked his contract was up in the summer. If anything that makes it more likely they will sell in January for a reduced rate if he doesn't show signs of signing a new deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 I would expect us to at least try and get him in January. Desperately need a RB and a DM and CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 If anything that makes it more likely they will sell in January for a reduced rate if he doesn't show signs of signing a new deal. Exactly. As I said I would expect us to have a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 I would expect us to at least try and get him in January. Desperately need a RB and a DM and CB. Those three positions and a striker we would be sorted for this league and have a decent squad at CCC level. In terms of importance i'd say: Centre back - Whitbread Striker - Beckford Right back - Logan Def mid - Carsley Get those four and I'd be quite happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 I would also accept Barnard or le fondre. The more I think about it, the more exciting it actually seems. I'm confident we will make the playoffs now and even if we don't go up in that lottery, we will absolutely rape this league next season. Just a matter of time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Racon please and also possibly Shelvey from Charlton, he may have gone off the radar of some of the top teams as his form hasnt been brilliant, going to be a class player though How about Pilkington from Huddersfield or Williams from Bristol Rovers, two class acts from the games i've seen them this season Also Simeon Jackson, just think he would be awesome with Lambert especially when Connolly cant play every game And finally some Championship players, Billy Sharp? Elliott Ward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Is Vokes on loan till January at Leeds? Maybe have a look at him as well? As a saints fan I'm sure he would give 100% every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 I know its more about getting a blend and team spirit, but not bad start to aim having one of the top two or three for each position for this division. Guessing not far off in a few positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 I know its more about getting a blend and team spirit, but not bad start to aim having one of the top two or three for each position for this division. Guessing not far off in a few positions. Not far off. Kelvin is one of the top keepers and the 2 strikers are up there. Harding maybe, Lallana and Hammond. Almost half the team I would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Anyone who thinks Beckford would come here in the January window really needs a reality check. He's virtually guaranteed a CCC place next season, whereas with ourselves it would be up in the air. If his contract is running out in the summer, it makes it a double no brainer. I cannot see past getting in loans for the January window, unless we can't get the right personnel for the positions required (as often the decent loans only become available towards the end of the window). Most of these League 1 players would require changing out if you were making a serious attempt at getting out of the CCC. Loans give you that flexibility and if with an option, covered all ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Anyone who thinks Beckford would come here in the January window really needs a reality check. He's virtually guaranteed a CCC place next season, whereas with ourselves it would be up in the air. If his contract is running out in the summer, it makes it a double no brainer. I cannot see past getting in loans for the January window, unless we can't get the right personnel for the positions required (as often the decent loans only become available towards the end of the window). Most of these League 1 players would require changing out if you were making a serious attempt at getting out of the CCC. Loans give you that flexibility and if with an option, covered all ways. Who knows how much money we have and who knows who we can attract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Beckford would obviously be quality but it is NEVER going to happen. Simeon Jackson or Lee Barnard for me, very good players who will compliment Lambo and are very realistic imo. Jackson in particular is very highly rated by the gillingham fans ive met up here, and they all agree that he would flourish in a better team. Look at his scoring record for Gillingham - and they are gash. In our team he would get bags imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 I personally and not ITK claim think Barnard and Whitbread may be two we could look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 I personally and not ITK claim think Barnard and Whitbread may be two we could look at. Agreed mate, they would be quality signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madsent Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Leed's home and grown. He was on loan at scunny a few seasons back - but when leeds came down to L1 he became a prominent figure in their team. Beckford is a Londoner and only signed for Leeds in 2006 having spent several years in non-League with Wealdstone. I doubt he'd be happy to be the third choice striker with us anyway. We have the best finisher in the league, David Connolly, and Rickie Lambert is too good to drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Deluded people on here thinking we would sign beckford, why would he leave leeds for a div 1 club or at best championship, he would only sign for a prem team probably in jan or in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Deluded people on here thinking we would sign beckford, why would he leave leeds for a div 1 club or at best championship, he would only sign for a prem team probably in jan or in the summer FFS no one has said we will sign Beckford. Are you Beckford? If not then just stay quiet. This is a thread about who people would like and nobody has any idea about how likely a player signing is. If we paid leeds 4 million and tripled his wages then who the hell knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 This should probably be put on a different thread but I couldn't be arsed to sift through and find it... I was at a Christmas do last night where I met the wife of one of Saints' physios who told me that Liebherr has released "sizeable funds" for Pardew to strengthen the playing squad in January. Interesting times ahead methinks! I'm a little undecided on whether this would be a good thing, spending big in January could be a bad move. There is clearly a sense of togetherness amongst the current squad, and it always takes time for players to bed in. Time we don't have, as we probably have to win something like 2 out of every 3 games for the rest of the season to get in the play-offs. Difficult to deny that additional quality and cover in key positions (centre-half, centre-forward) would be handy. Depends on who it is I guess, I have to admit I've been very impressed with Pardew's signings so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 FFS no one has said we will sign Beckford. Are you Beckford? If not then just stay quiet. This is a thread about who people would like and nobody has any idea about how likely a player signing is. If we paid leeds 4 million and tripled his wages then who the hell knows. I might be, stay quiet sure but if we are having a discusion lets be realistic can we and try to keep your toys in the pram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 FFS no one has said we will sign Beckford. Are you Beckford? If not then just stay quiet. This is a thread about who people would like and nobody has any idea about how likely a player signing is. If we paid leeds 4 million and tripled his wages then who the hell knows. Surely we should duscussing possible signings as appossed to very unlikely ones I would have thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 I'm a little undecided on whether this would be a good thing, spending big in January could be a bad move. There is clearly a sense of togetherness amongst the current squad, and it always takes time for players to bed in. Time we don't have, as we probably have to win something like 2 out of every 3 games for the rest of the season to get in the play-offs. Difficult to deny that additional quality and cover in key positions (centre-half, centre-forward) would be handy. Depends on who it is I guess, I have to admit I've been very impressed with Pardew's signings so far. A new centre back is not going to unsettle the side - it looks like Trotman is off anyway. Same for a new right back - we can't rely on Murty and James is better elsewhere. Up front we are very dependent on Lambert so a bit of cover there would be wise. And if we sort out those three positions then winning 2 out of every 3 games for the rest of the season is absolutely possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 I might be, stay quiet sure but if we are having a discusion lets be realistic can we and try to keep your toys in the pram I just don't like being called deluded and being accused of saying something that I didn't say. It's how rumours start. Don't worry though I'm perfectly calm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 Abdu, Barnard, Le Fondre, Craddock, Whitbread, Puncheaon, Beckford, Racon, Bridcutt, Grant. I think we could end up seeing one of these in a Saints shirt come January. Pards is a big fan of Lloyd so I dont think he will have RB a priority unless he see's Lloyds posistion elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerfryisalegend Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 I still can't understand why Moritz Volz is still a free agent. decent right back who can also play in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 18 December, 2009 Share Posted 18 December, 2009 The forgotten Moritz Volz, should look at him aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 19 December, 2009 Share Posted 19 December, 2009 ? lol Typo. Should have read CB backup for Jaidi. We also need stronger replacements for all our aging and injury-prone stalwarts: Perry, Wotton, Murti, Connolly, Thomas. I can't see them lasting the season in top form for all matches. When we need them most they'll sometimes be unavailable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 19 December, 2009 Share Posted 19 December, 2009 Beckford is a no go. Forget Championship clubs, lower Prem clubs such as Bolton are looking at him. However, I did hear last week that Elliot Ward is a very realistic target. Ward and another striker will see us finish in the play offs IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 19 December, 2009 Share Posted 19 December, 2009 Seconded, besides, we're ok up front What we really need is a pacy, athletic centre-back to compliment Jaidi/Trotman who IMO are too similar. Our biggest weakness this season has been our vulnerability to counter-attacks and whilst yes we're doing well at the moment. We aren't there yet, strengthening is still needed. Simeon Jackson would be a great addition and I think would compliment Lambert really well if we could get him, but at the moment I don't think up front is really a priority. Would be a great signing though and would definately give us the best front two in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 19 December, 2009 Share Posted 19 December, 2009 Seconded, besides, we're ok up front What we really need is a pacy, athletic centre-back to compliment Jaidi/Trotman who IMO are too similar. Our biggest weakness this season has been our vulnerability to counter-attacks and whilst yes we're doing well at the moment. We aren't there yet, strengthening is still needed. Simeon Jackson would be a great addition and I think would compliment Lambert really well if we could get him, but at the moment I don't think up front is really a priority. Would be a great signing though and would definately give us the best front two in the league. I disagree we have no real cover up front surely we need another Striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 19 December, 2009 Share Posted 19 December, 2009 I disagree we have no real cover up front surely we need another Striker Depends what happens with Saga and only AP knows about Connolly - if Saga goes and Connolly is likely to be in and out of the team, a striker would be my no.1 priority. If not, I think we need an attacking central midfielder especially in a 4-5-1. Notwithstanding all the goals, the triad of Schneiderlin, Hammond and Wotton hardly exudes attacking intent while Mellis is likely to return to Chelsea. At times, there's been too much space between our midfield and forwards which has forced the long ball. Rather than a CB, I would go for a DM who could play at the back if necessary while lesseingn the reliance on Wotton, a pacy, younger Christian Dailly. But pace is important. If Gillett goes to Donnie, then a DM becomes more important. A photocopy of Dan Harding at RB would be useful -its singularly our weakest spot in the team though I don't think it has much impact on our overall balance. Finally cover for Lallana at LM wouldnt go amiss as Holmes or Mills have hardly figured in Pards plans. Been impressed with Jeff Hughes of Bristol Rover who seems capable of covering the whole left-hand side. Doing so would free Lallana go to a more central AM position (see above) which in my view is his natural position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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