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VectisSaint

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Stuart Gray has been appointed First Team Coach at Burnley

 

 

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11708_5870739,00.html

 

 

Never understood why he was appointed Manager here because after Hoddle left I did not see anything to warrant his appointment

Because he was and is a very good coach. World of difference between being a coach and being a manager, shame Lowe never realised. Same with Wigley.

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Because he was the cheap option and Rupert Lowe was cheap.

 

I think also Rupert wanted to prove a point as if Gray had done well he could have said our form last season wasn't down to Hoddle!

 

I honestly wanted Gray sacked the minute he was appointed, dreadful manager, dreadful tactics, Arsenal @ home that season we should have lost 10-0!

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Because he was the cheap option and Rupert Lowe was cheap.

 

and he was also the first of many "right man for the job"

 

We could have got Moyes but he wanted things like a salary higher than

the average job seekers allowance and his own assistants.When you consider

the money wasted on the Ecudorian duo,paying off Gray and the useless Wadsworth and a few quid over the top for Delap, I guess Moyes would have been quite economical. I said at the time on a well known mailing list that Lowe's attitude was a danger to the survival of SFC, of course I got a right royal slagging off from most of the other 800 or so members.

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Because he was and is a very good coach. World of difference between being a coach and being a manager, shame Lowe never realised. Same with Wigley.

 

I think Lowe also used O'Leary at Leeds (assistant who'd never been a manager before, excellent results while using a good amount of home grown players) as a successful example of promoting from within.

 

(Bearing in mind that the real silliness at Leeds was still to come.)

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I think Lowe also used O'Leary at Leeds (assistant who'd never been a manager before, excellent results while using a good amount of home grown players) as a successful example of promoting from within.

 

(Bearing in mind that the real silliness at Leeds was still to come.)

 

And that bloke at Barcelona who came through the ranks isn't doing too bad either!!!!

 

Good luck to Stuart, one of the good guys.

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The appointment of Gray was justified in that he had a decent end of season before, and was popular with the players and is an excellent coach rated very highly in the game. And was loyal as he refused to go to Spurs with Hoddle. I think that meant a lot to Lowe.

 

Moyes I think turned us down (we only allowed him to bring one assistant, Lowe wanted to be loyal to Gray and other backroomers), as did McClaren (who I think didn't come because of money and Boro being a better option).

 

Being that there are plenty of people that called for the appointment of Dodd/Le Tiss/Benali/Svennson etc etc every time our job comes up it sometimes is a bit rich when people slate Gray's appointment in retrospect.

 

So Gray was understandable and forgivable - but others, esp Wigley were unforgivable.

 

All that sad, I was anti his appointment from day one anyway. But could understand it.

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Apparently the players burst into spontaneous applause when he was announced as the new manager. People have to start somewhere and if Gray and Wigley did a good job at a lower level they deserve a chance to step up. Probably should have been at a lower level club though!

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The appointment of Gray was justified in that he had a decent end of season before, and was popular with the players and is an excellent coach rated very highly in the game. And was loyal as he refused to go to Spurs with Hoddle. I think that meant a lot to Lowe.

 

Moyes I think turned us down (we only allowed him to bring one assistant, Lowe wanted to be loyal to Gray and other backroomers), as did McClaren (who I think didn't come because of money and Boro being a better option).

 

Being that there are plenty of people that called for the appointment of Dodd/Le Tiss/Benali/Svennson etc etc every time our job comes up it sometimes is a bit rich when people slate Gray's appointment in retrospect.

 

So Gray was understandable and forgivable - but others, esp Wigley were unforgivable.

 

All that sad, I was anti his appointment from day one anyway. But could understand it.

 

Fair points. Every manager starts somewhere and if some of the appointments from within had worked out we would have looked back at our history of building from within from top to bottom with pride.

 

They didnt though and with hindsight we look like a joke on more than one to many occasions. I think our leader at the time had some nice ideas but didnt have the vision or ability to pick the right people at crucial times.

 

As coaches Gray and Wigley found other jobs and are still at a higher level than we are right now so well done and good luck to them.

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The appointment of Gray was justified in that he had a decent end of season before, and was popular with the players and is an excellent coach rated very highly in the game. And was loyal as he refused to go to Spurs with Hoddle. I think that meant a lot to Lowe.

 

Moyes I think turned us down (we only allowed him to bring one assistant, Lowe wanted to be loyal to Gray and other backroomers), as did McClaren (who I think didn't come because of money and Boro being a better option).

 

Being that there are plenty of people that called for the appointment of Dodd/Le Tiss/Benali/Svennson etc etc every time our job comes up it sometimes is a bit rich when people slate Gray's appointment in retrospect.

 

So Gray was understandable and forgivable - but others, esp Wigley were unforgivable.

 

All that sad, I was anti his appointment from day one anyway. But could understand it.

 

Gray didn't have a good end of season, it was average at best, he got the job on the basis that we beat Man U (we always did at the Dell) and Arsenal last two games. Yes the players liked him but there is a big difference between liking and respecting. Gray was and still is a first class coach but is not manager material just like Wigley. Also apparantly Wadsworth was hated by the players. We were simply awful in that game against Arsenal, not just in the performance but in the attitude of the players, there was no belief there. I thought it was a mistake at the time and so it was proved and that is not with the benifit of hindsight. Rumour has it Moyes wanted the job but was unhappy that he couldn't bring his own people in.

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