Terry Paine

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Was just briefly on ITV, talking about Alf Ramsey's team talk in the 1966 final.

 

I never knew he was in the world cup winning squad!

[paris]

Sure was and recently revieved his medal....

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Sure was and recently revieved his medal....

 

Ah yes I do vaguely remember that now. Good to see him looking healthy.

[Trader]

Terry and Peter Thompson (the left-winger in the squad) never really got a look in as Ramsey decided to play his "revolutionary system" dubbed "wingless wonders" at the time.

 

Glad Terry got his medal in the end though.

 

Still got his 'Ampshire accent lol

[St Landrew]

Was just briefly on ITV, talking about Alf Ramsey's team talk in the 1966 final.

 

I never knew he was in the world cup winning squad!

 

I'm having real trouble believing this..! This should be one of those facts that are ingrained into every Saints fan and committed to memory from Day One. I'm astonished.

[John B]

Terry and Peter Thompson (the left-winger in the squad) never really got a look in as Ramsey decided to play his "revolutionary system" dubbed "wingless wonders" at the time.

 

Glad Terry got his medal in the end though.

 

Still got his 'Ampshire accent lol

 

Terry , Connelly and Callaghan all wingers played in the group stages but there were no wingers in the knock out stages

 

I dont think Thompson was in the squad

 

Connelly played in the first game Terry Paine played in the second and Callaghan in the third

 

 

 

See http://www.englandfootballonline.com/CmpWC/CmpWC1966Squad.html

Edited 26 June, 2010 by John B

[Badger]

I think Paine started in the first two matches before Ramsey went for his wingless system.

[St Landrew]

Have a quick read-up on Terry. Just read the England, bit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Paine

 

Dear, oh dear [still finding it hard to believe, sorry].

[John B]

Have a quick read-up on Terry. Just read the England, bit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Paine

 

Dear, oh dear [still finding it hard to believe, sorry].

 

Probably the player who did the most for our club in the last 50 years followed closely by MLT and our only World Cup winner at the moment.

[Gorgiesaint]

Whilst I knew he was part of the squad for the 1966 WC squad & played against Mexico, I must confess I didn't realise he scored 7 goals in 19 internationals - including a hat-trick! Hell of a good record for a winger.

[Springhill]

He ended his career with Hereford.....I recall being in Nottingham for a conference and went to see them play Notts Forest.....great player!!

[Trader]

Ah, well time plays strange tricks to memory, and you're right, Thompson wasn't in the squad, but IMO he should have been!

 

To those posters who are so astonished that Paine was in the squad I would say that there was never a trickier or more accomplished winger, opposing sides would regularly put three players on him and as often as not would beat all three in about 5 yards.

Also he had that skill where he could put the ball right on Ron Davies head, every time.

 

It has always amazed me that from any situation, dead ball or otherwise, modern players have such difficulty in delivering an accurate cross - League One or World Cup - it seems to make no difference.

I can't believe it's down to the players skill - it must be the modern ball.

 

Especially as that f*cking ball which is ruining this World Cup.

 

 

 

 

 

See http://www.englandfootballonline.com/CmpWC/CmpWC1966Squad.html

[bridge too far]

He showed me his trophy cabinet!

 

And no, that's not a euphemism - he was selling his house in Bitterne Park and we had a look (didn't buy it though).

[alpine_saint]

Probably the player who did the most for our club in the last 50 years followed closely by MLT and our only World Cup winner at the moment.

 

What about Alan Ball ?

[spyinthesky]

Terry Paine once scored a hat trick for England v N Ireland (won 8-3)

 

V tricky and skilful player (with a bit of a nasty streak) and not liked much by fellow Saints players

 

He had a deputy by the name of Dave Chadwick who wasnt a bad player but couldnt dislodge Painey or John Sydenham on either wing

[John B]

What about Alan Ball ?

 

Yes Alan Ball was a World Cup winner but he was playing for Blackpool at the time

[Third Division South Days]

I think the majority of his caps were gained as a second division player. Not only a brilliant winger he became an equally effective midfielder later in his career. He would be first on the list of my best Saints Xi.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

He ended his career with Hereford.....I recall being in Nottingham for a conference and went to see them play Notts Forest.....great player!!

 

One season, near to Christmas, Saints ere away at W.B.A. on a Friday night. Some went up for it and stayed over at their mates in London. The rest of us travelled to meet them at Woking Station on the Saturday morning, thentravelled on to Aldershot to watch the Shots play Hereford. About a dozen Saints fans in the closed end, surrounded by Shots fans with us shouting for Paine and Hereford. A great afternoon made even better by meeting Arthur English on the train, he was a Shots fan!

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Terry Paine once scored a hat trick for England v N Ireland (won 8-3)

 

V tricky and skilful player (with a bit of a nasty streak) and not liked much by fellow Saints players

 

He had a deputy by the name of Dave Chadwick who wasnt a bad player but couldnt dislodge Painey or John Sydenham on either wing

 

He also loved winding up the opposition. Bremner especially was his target when Leeds came to town. I used to watch him from the East Stand/Archers corner.

[Trader]

He was also a sneaky player, always having little digs at the opposition.

 

Interestingly, I think I am correct in saying, like Lineker, never booked.

 

Mind you, in those days you practically had to amputate someone's leg with a tackle to get booked!

[Kenilworthy]

I think the majority of his caps were gained as a second division player.

 

In fact he never won a cap as a first division player. Despite getting promotion with us in 66 which you would have thought would have increased his chances of playing for England he was never capped again.

[rallyboy]

Terry still sounds proper Ampshire! Good lad.

 

And when a lad, Arthur English used to be the grocery shop's boy riding his bike around Aldershot.

 

Never said it was interesting, just a fact!

[Badger]

He ended his career with Hereford.....I recall being in Nottingham for a conference and went to see them play Notts Forest.....great player!!

 

I remember him returning to The Dell with Hereford, unbelievable and emotional reception given to him.

[Badger]

He was also a sneaky player, always having little digs at the opposition.

 

Interestingly, I think I am correct in saying, like Lineker, never booked.

 

Mind you, in those days you practically had to amputate someone's leg with a tackle to get booked!

 

I would be amazed if that was so.

[Hamilton Saint]

I think Paine started in the first two matches before Ramsey went for his wingless system.

 

 

He played in one game only - against Mexico.

[Lets B Avenue]

He also loved winding up the opposition. Bremner especially was his target when Leeds came to town. I used to watch him from the East Stand/Archers corner.

 

I remember several battles with Mick Mills (later to be part of Saints best ever team) which involved headbutts, jabs and proper fouls.

[SarniaSaint]

One of the real Saints legends along with Bates, Channon, Davies and LeTissier.

Unfortunately bombed out of the club by McMenemy.

[ghq]

One of the real Saints legends along with Bates, Channon, Davies and LeTissier.

Unfortunately bombed out of the club by McMenemy.

 

Word was at the time, he had to go. As good as he had been.

[Toomer]

Terry played against Mexico in the group match, the game that Bobby Charlton scored with a thunderbolt of a shot.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Terry still sounds proper Ampshire! Good lad.

 

And when a lad, Arthur English used to be the grocery shop's boy riding his bike around Aldershot.

 

Never said it was interesting, just a fact!

 

When we got on the train at Woking we didn't recognise him! He just looked like some kindly old fella, well dressed. trilby type hat. He became naturally drawn into our

conversation and said nothing until one of us, rather drunk, says "Feck me! Aren't you Arfur Inglish?" Arthur thought it great that we had come to watch TP.

 

If anybody hasn't read it then A Constant Paine by David Bull (Publ. Hagiology, who else?) is worth a read.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

I remember several battles with Mick Mills (later to be part of Saints best ever team) which involved headbutts, jabs and proper fouls.

 

I remember we played Leeds one season and TP had been niggling Bremner all game, TP was great at tapping ankles. Suddenlylittle BB has him by the shirt collar, attempting to lift TP up. TP is stood there, arms stretched out sideways, looking at the linesman and screaming at BB "What's up with you?"

[spyinthesky]

He also had some 'interesting' games against the Pompey LB by the name of Roy Lunnis who was, at the time, a monster at well over 6 foot.

 

Painey was far too skilful for him.

 

Also remember a Christmas game v Bolton. Their left back was Sid Farrimond. Him and Painey had been having a right go from the off. Painey got a sly dig at him and Farrimond retaliated by throwing a handful of mud at Painey. Farrimond got sent off (a most unusual event in those days) and Saints went on to win (5-1 I think)

 

The only LB that ever got the better of Painey was Ray Wilson originally at Huddersfield then Everton. Wilson was in the 1966 World Cup squad.

 

Painey also had a Greengrocers for a while in Shirley and was a local Councillor

[VectisSaint]

What about Alan Ball ?

Lets not forget Alf Ramsey as well, though of course he was a Saint long before 66.

[Badger]

Painey also had a Greengrocers for a while in Shirley and was a local Councillor

 

Wasn't he asked to step down or was voted off the council for non-attendance?

[rallyboy]

Roy Lunnis only died about three months ago, I believe his finest hour was kicking Paine around for an afternoon.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Lets not forget Alf Ramsey as well, though of course he was a Saint long before 66.

 

Well said sir!

[sadoldgit]

Terry played against Mexico in the group match, the game that Bobby Charlton scored with a thunderbolt of a shot.

 

He did indeed. TP had a diving header that went just over the bar. I think he may have picked up an injury in that game but Ramsey decided to use overlapping fullbacks in a 4-3-3 formation and the rest is history (including the end of Painey's England career).

[70's Mike]

a true legend, the skates hated him especially when he wound up lunniss at fratton, norman dead hat trick as we scored 5

also may have scored the most important goal in club history against Charlton in 66

[spyinthesky]

I sat next to Norman Dean at a do recently. Tony Godfrey was also at our table (a 5'8'' ex Saints keeper)

[CitySaint]

I get absolutely frustrated to the point of anger that people have over 200/300/400 posts on here and haven't bothered to look into the clubs past, or our kids that are faceless internet posters. Terry Paine is a Saints great and we all should be proud her was in the '66 squad, one of England (and Saint's proudest moments) Save your money on paying for a name on the back of your replica jersey and buy some of the quality history books produced by the club and its official historian. Sorry for the outburst, I just feel the young wave of fans we now see think the club began at the 2003 cup final and hope it wil again come the 2012 premiership season.

[Toomer]

He did indeed. TP had a diving header that went just over the bar. I think he may have picked up an injury in that game but Ramsey decided to use overlapping fullbacks in a 4-3-3 formation and the rest is history (including the end of Painey's England career).

 

There are a few of us on TSW that can remember watching the 66 World Cup on a black and white TV.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

I get absolutely frustrated to the point of anger that people have over 200/300/400 posts on here and haven't bothered to look into the clubs past, or our kids that are faceless internet posters. Terry Paine is a Saints great and we all should be proud her was in the '66 squad, one of England (and Saint's proudest moments) Save your money on paying for a name on the back of your replica jersey and buy some of the quality history books produced by the club and its official historian. Sorry for the outburst, I just feel the young wave of fans we now see think the club began at the 2003 cup final and hope it wil again come the 2012 premiership season.

 

I'm so sorry. I suppose you know everything about all the players who played 30 years before you were born? Him being in the England squad isn't actually anything to do with Saints really is it; I couldn't care less about England tbh. Stop having a go and speaking sh!t. Not all fans take interest in the same things, and although I obviously care about the history of the club, I can't be f*cked to sit reading history books right now.

[John B]

There are a few of us on TSW that can remember watching the 66 World Cup on a black and white TV.

 

Yes I remember it well I went up to Bitterne to put on a bet just before 3pm drove back to Bitterne Manor the road was deserted and watched on a black and white screen

[EastleighSoulBoy]

I sat next to Norman Dean at a do recently. Tony Godfrey was also at our table (a 5'8'' ex Saints keeper)

 

It must be great to meet up with old buddies like that. Talking about the characters, the laughs, the escapades and those, sadly, no longer 'on the pitch in this big game'.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

There are a few of us on TSW that can remember watching the 66 World Cup on a black and white TV.

 

We had arrived in Devon on the first weekend of our camping holiday. We were staying on a farm neat Stoke Gabriel. I was itching to watch the match but where could I? Mum sent me down to the farm house (early days of camp sites) and the old lady sent me 'round the back, you'll see a big barn'.

 

Crumbs! This barn was done up with a few flags (our homes are better decorated now!). There was a little table with them selling crisps and, warm, Coke. The hay bales had been piled like a small theatre and we all struggled to watch on a, what seemed like, 14" portable B/W set. The volume was wound right up to distortion levels and it echoed around.

 

Happy days!

[david in sweden]

More later.

Edited 28 June, 2010 by david in sweden

[david in sweden]

Was just briefly on ITV, talking about Alf Ramsey's team talk in the 1966 final.

 

I never knew he was in the world cup winning squad!

 

He was concussed early on in the first game and Ramsey was afraid to play him in the next... in case he hadn't recovered and so altered the line-up, when it worked OK... he stuck with it ..and the rest as they say is history.

Edited 28 June, 2010 by david in sweden

[david in sweden]

Whilst I knew he was part of the squad for the 1966 WC squad & played against Mexico, I must confess I didn't realise he scored 7 goals in 19 internationals - including a hat-trick! Hell of a good record for a winger.

 

He is still on record as the ONLY England right-winger to score a hat-trick in a Wembley international....

(Englald beat a fairly respectable N.I.side... 8-3 on the night (Nov 63).. TP scored a hat-trick and made FOUR of the other goals.

That speaks reams for his quality...doesn't it ?

[Secret Site Agent]

I'm having real trouble believing this..! This should be one of those facts that are ingrained into every Saints fan and committed to memory from Day One. I'm astonished.

 

Whose Tony Panes?

[Marino]

As already mentioned ,'Constant Paine' is a terrific book totally dedicated to the great man, charting his life

from a schoolboy playing in Winchester through to the present - plus some great photos.

As a lad I remember being on holiday in the IOW and coming over for an August midweek evening game with my Dad. We

stayed at the same hotel as the team and both Terry and Tony Knapp spent a good 45 minutes chatting to us before

climbing on board the team coach prior to kick-off.

A nice man off the pitch, hard as nails on it.