TopGun Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 It seems that Nigel Adkins and Eddie Howe have both turned down the opportunity to be the Saints manager after having contact with Cortese. Both these guys seem sensible characters and strong minded individuals. Does this tell us something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowers-sfc Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Where have you been the last 24 hours? Adkins has not turned us down, and still seems pretty likely to be our new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 that you should think before you post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 It seems that Nigel Adkins and Eddie Howe have both turned down the opportunity to be the Saints manager after having contact with Cortese. Both these guys seem sensible characters and strong minded individuals. Does this tell us something? Last time I checked.. Adkins still very much wants to drop a division and come to us. He would already be here if it was nt for his chairman What does that tell you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 how many people just make up facts to slag of saints? unbelieveable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Last time I checked.. Adkins still very much wants to drop a division and come to us. He would already be here if it was nt for his chairman What does that tell you Haha! Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Does this tell us something? Yes. You're a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 It seems that Nigel Adkins and Eddie Howe have both turned down the opportunity to be the Saints manager after having contact with Cortese. Both these guys seem sensible characters and strong minded individuals. Does this tell us something? How much of a Bellend do you feel now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 It seems that Nigel Adkins and Eddie Howe have both turned down the opportunity to be the Saints manager after having contact with Cortese. Both these guys seem sensible characters and strong minded individuals. Does this tell us something? Adkins still very much in the frame. The only person as far as I know to say that Howe turned us down is the Bournemouth Chairman. He would wouldn't he to keep face with the fans if his manager went for an interview and did not get the job and had to come back to his little club. I suppose you got the bit about contact with Cortese correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Another totally baseless pop at NC................ Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............................................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 It seems that Nigel Adkins and Eddie Howe have both turned down the opportunity to be the Saints manager after having contact with Cortese. Both these guys seem sensible characters and strong minded individuals. Does this tell us something? It tells me that you are yet another idiot more interested in having a go at Saints and NC then listening to whats really going on. Adkins hasnt turned us down and Howe was never approached it was just thier dinlo Chairman stirring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliegeorgesflymo Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 excellent response posts - getting fed up with the negative posting on this site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 love user name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggleman Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 It's getting stupid now that people seem to be trying to find reasons to have a pop at NC rather than having the reason ready made for them and really have a reason. I really hope that he doesn't read these forums 'cos of he does he will no doubt be thinking that he made a massive mistake in talking ML into taking us over!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintedwill Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 lock this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintedwill Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Possibly delete it from the face of this earth with only the original ill informed poster knowing the true shame he has brought on himself and his family and leave him having to live with it for the rest of his life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 It seems that Nigel Adkins and Eddie Howe have both turned down the opportunity to be the Saints manager after having contact with Cortese. Both these guys seem sensible characters and strong minded individuals. Does this tell us something? There, I've highlighted the bits for you that indicate to others that it is entirely feasible that what you have written has no basis of fact and is therefore just pure conjecture on your part. I am equally entitled to speculate that Howe decided for himself that as he did not have much managerial experience, let alone at this level, that he wasn't up to it. As for Adkins, unless anything else surfaces to prove otherwise, it appears that Adkins has not turned down the opportunity to manage us and indeed might not even have been offered the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 I will try not to add to the vitriol of some of the posters above as I believe you put this up as a debating point although your slant was towards an anti Cortese stand. It is reported that Howe turned us down. He is a young and in my opinion an upwardly mobile Manager but maybe he saw the Southampton job as a step too soon. In Bournemouth he is a hero and quite rightly so. His main aim this season will be to stay in the division and next season to probably consolidate. That, I am sure will be within his capabilities with the support of the board. To come to Southampton now will be a major culture change. He will have stretching targets and little time to bed himself in. To fail might put his whole future in Management at risk. He is young and has time on his side. Football is riddled with Managers who took too big a step too soon. As for Adkins, he has a little more experience and from all he is saying he feels the time is right for the Southampton challenge. At present the stumbling block is the compensation his present employers request. He is a man of principle and will not just resign. If it cannot be resolved I would suggest he might regret the missed opportunity but I cannot fault his principles. Cortese has made some hard business decisions since he became Chairman. Many have been unpopular, particularly to certain segments of our supporters. However, he does not seem to have taken his eye off the ball and I believe success will come. Just give him space. Just a point also on the strong minded. Cortese allegedly visited the Sun Newspaper HO last week. Suddenly, for reasons we can only speculate, we are being referred to as Southampton again! I am going to keep an open mind about Cortese at present and give him a good chance to fulfil the late Marcus Liebherr’s, his own and all our dreams of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 It's getting stupid now that people seem to be trying to find reasons to have a pop at NC rather than having the reason ready made for them and really have a reason. I really hope that he doesn't read these forums 'cos of he does he will no doubt be thinking that he made a massive mistake in talking ML into taking us over!!! No, he's a sensible and intelligent man. He'll dismiss this sort of rambling idiocy for the trash it is, as most on here do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 I will try not to add to the vitriol of some of the posters above as I believe you put this up as a debating point although your slant was towards an anti Cortese stand. It is reported that Howe turned us down. He is a young and in my opinion an upwardly mobile Manager but maybe he saw the Southampton job as a step too soon. In Bournemouth he is a hero and quite rightly so. His main aim this season will be to stay in the division and next season to probably consolidate. That, I am sure will be within his capabilities with the support of the board. To come to Southampton now will be a major culture change. He will have stretching targets and little time to bed himself in. To fail might put his whole future in Management at risk. He is young and has time on his side. Football is riddled with Managers who took too big a step too soon. As for Adkins, he has a little more experience and from all he is saying he feels the time is right for the Southampton challenge. At present the stumbling block is the compensation his present employers request. He is a man of principle and will not just resign. If it cannot be resolved I would suggest he might regret the missed opportunity but I cannot fault his principles. Cortese has made some hard business decisions since he became Chairman. Many have been unpopular, particularly to certain segments of our supporters. However, he does not seem to have taken his eye off the ball and I believe success will come. Just give him space. Just a point also on the strong minded. Cortese allegedly visited the Sun Newspaper HO last week. Suddenly, for reasons we can only speculate, we are being referred to as Southampton again! I am going to keep an open mind about Cortese at present and give him a good chance to fulfil the late Marcus Liebherr’s, his own and all our dreams of success. An excellent, well reasoned post Weston, hopefully some of the more negative posters in regards to NC will take this on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUCKINGHAMSAINT Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 "Seems" - What are the actual facts? I don't think anybody knows. Great post by Weston Saint on Howe's "job to soon" and Adkins' position. Sometimes circumstances dictate and it's not all black & white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmonkey1979 Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 No, he's a sensible and intelligent man. He'll dismiss this sort of rambling idiocy for the trash it is, as most on here do. Was going to say the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintedwill Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Cortese has made some hard business decisions since he became Chairman. Many have been unpopular, particularly to certain segments of our supporters. However, he does not seem to have taken his eye off the ball and I believe success will come. Just give him space. Just a point also on the strong minded. Cortese allegedly visited the Sun Newspaper HO last week. Suddenly, for reasons we can only speculate, we are being referred to as Southampton again! I am going to keep an open mind about Cortese at present and give him a good chance to fulfil the late Marcus Liebherr’s, his own and all our dreams of success. Agree completely with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 It tells me that you are yet another idiot more interested in having a go at Saints and NC then listening to whats really going on. Adkins hasnt turned us down and Howe was never approached it was just thier dinlo Chairman stirring. Really I thought he had an interview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Seems as you say. It is all very well for Adkins to have pronciples but wouldn't you just resign if you wanted to work here so much? We will see. I don't know hat has gone on in either case, what I do know is the the media debacle doesn't help our current plight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Really I thought he had an interview? That was my impression too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Seems as you say. It is all very well for Adkins to have pronciples but wouldn't you just resign if you wanted to work here so much? We will see. I don't know hat has gone on in either case, what I do know is the the media debacle doesn't help our current plight. nor particularly hinder imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Last time I checked.. Adkins still very much wants to drop a division and come to us. He would already be here if it was nt for his chairman What does that tell you Agreed TDD..Having already worked his miracle at Scully why wouldn't he want to leave a club like them to come to one with all our attributes ...and a good player budget to boot. It's a no brainer but you have to admire his ethics in not wanting (Scunny) to come out worse off on the deal. I admire that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 nor particularly hinder imho You don't see losing matches as a hinderance Nick? Nor the perception, after all of the other ridicule heaped on us of late, that we are a shambles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulstersaint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 It seems that Nigel Adkins and Eddie Howe have both turned down the opportunity to be the Saints manager after having contact with Cortese. Both these guys seem sensible characters and strong minded individuals. Does this tell us something? It tell me that the issue of Adkins is not yet resolved, contrary to your statement. It tells me that if Howe was interviewed and thought he was not going to get the job, he probably decided to say "I turned Saints down" before it was announced Saints turned him down. It tells me that you are anti-Cortese even though the reasons for AP's sacking are not in the public domain (perhaps for personal or legal reasons). It tells me that you should remember that - whatever you think of Cortese - without him our club might not exist. It tells me that you - and others like you - should stop being so negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 how many people just make up facts to slag of saints? unbelieveable 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 how many people just make up facts to slag of saints? unbelieveable Converesly how many people make up facts to support various people at Saints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 excellent response posts - getting fed up with the negative posting on this site Not sure what you mean - are you having a dig at people slagging Cortese off with no reason, or the people who slagged off the person slagging off Cortese for no reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stthrobber Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 It seems that Nigel Adkins and Eddie Howe have both turned down the opportunity to be the Saints manager after having contact with Cortese. Both these guys seem sensible characters and strong minded individuals. Does this tell us something? Well, Howe was offered the job and turned it down according to what the Echo says, whilst Adkins wants to manage Saints but wants to do it in the right way. I warm to Adkins more and more because the guy has integrity, but the deal is still on. I ain't gonna slag you off for making a bold statement, but you are jumping the gun a bit. On the face of it the whole saga appears to be a massive fark up and a PR disaster, but that isn't the fault of Cortese. He appears to have acted with the utmost dignity throughout this process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 I see "Arry gave Adkins a "Big Up" in an article about the England job the other day. I would be interested to know whether Howe was offered the job first then Adkins or the other way around. Not an ideal situation but hopefully it will get sorted next week and we can work at getting back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Converesly how many people make up facts to support various people at Saints? That's because it's our club. I will twist facts however I can to support my club, but to twist facts in order to criticise it is just wierd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 That's because it's our club. I will twist facts however I can to support my club, but to twist facts in order to criticise it is just wierd. Twisting facts is weird either way surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Converesly how many people make up facts to support various people at Saints? not seen any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 11 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Lots of comments there. I'm actually not anti Cortese at all. I think that a manager has to be strong enough to stand up to him and work with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Lots of comments there. I'm actually not anti Cortese at all. I think that a manager has to be strong enough to stand up to him and work with him. Are you going to admit you were wrong when you said... Nigel Adkins turned down the opportunity to be the Saints manager after having contact with Cortese. What was that even based on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 11 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Are you going to admit you were wrong when you said... What was that even based on? Don't be silly FM boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Lots of comments there. I'm actually not anti Cortese at all. I think that a manager has to be strong enough to stand up to him and work with him. true they will have to have a positive relationship with him. but you also made stuff up to criticise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Seems as you say. It is all very well for Adkins to have pronciples but wouldn't you just resign if you wanted to work here so much? We will see. I don't know hat has gone on in either case, what I do know is the the media debacle doesn't help our current plight. nor particularly hinder imho You don't see losing matches as a hinderance Nick? Nor the perception, after all of the other ridicule heaped on us of late, that we are a shambles? losing matches of course will impact our season. That is not what was being said though is it? I don't think the lies and other making public normal private discussions will have any impact on our season - just gives those who love moaning some pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Are you going to admit you were wrong when you said... Does it matter? zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 12 September, 2010 Share Posted 12 September, 2010 I suppose it is possible that Managers do not want to come to SFC because of Cortese but I doubt it. They may not want to come because of the pressure to succeed but we have good facilities players players and fans so we should be able to succeed. However I would like Cortese to act in a manner so that the club dont get so much negative press and these threads are posted I think things are improving but Cortese is new to British Football and needs to learn it cannot be expected that he would be a perfect Chairman from day 1 despite some fans thinking that he was I dont live in Southampton but in Berkshire where I talk to fans of other clubs and most think there is something really wrong with club at the moment whilst last season they thought we had done really well in nearly getting to the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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