exit2 Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Saints v Bristol City Post Match Views here please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Perhaps deserved a point. We missed Schneiderlin. Wotton was poor, Gobern didn't do well at AML but did when he moved to DM and Lancashire is poor. Euell should have scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Another false dawn after last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Rubbish lowe out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 We played quite well but have no presence in the box. Lallana has got to learn to shoot, hopefully before next week, does all that's needed but hits schooolgirl dolly drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 8 November, 2008 Author Share Posted 8 November, 2008 **** all in the final third again. Was it just 2 shots from inside the box today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Too inconsistent, cant see us surviving tbh. **** off lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Well I'm not surprised... Get a decent crowd in for a TV game (any concessions?) and we fail to deliver again. Not going to say "Told you so" but we continue to suffer for lack of leadership on and off the pitch. There's always the hope there will be three poorer teams in the Division come May 2009 - a show down at The City Ground - winner stays up and loser goes down. Men against boys? I know who I'd back! Bitterly disappointed again...just as I was getting more positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Thanks Martini for the excellent commentary. We missed Schneiderlin and Perry today I sense......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 It is all very good getting in promising youngsters But we need some decent defenders I have supported the new direction but it plainly is not working. So we need to sell Surman and Lallana and get in some defenders and play 4 4 2. There is no reason to keep Lallana as he is not scoring any goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 We need to turn possession into chances and goals. Hopefully it ill come before we run out of games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 The stats don't look good, to be expected though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 We played quite well but have no presence in the box. Lallana has got to learn to shoot, hopefully before next week, does all that's needed but hits schooolgirl dolly drops. +1 on those comments. I was able to watch a stream for the first time since last season. We looked a lot better than our results suggest. If we can stay up this season, I think this side can build into something decent. The shooting opportunities were a big disappointment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 We played quite well but have no presence in the box. Lallana has got to learn to shoot, hopefully before next week, does all that's needed but hits schooolgirl dolly drops. What a surprise another slagging from the visual technician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pope Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 I've been watching and supporting this team nearly all of my life. At the age of 50, surely I deserve to see better than my beloved Southampton festering at the bottom of the Championship? At this rate, the next local derby game will be against Bournemouth. Where is the consistancy, the drive, the passion? Come on Saints, give back something to the supporters... please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 +1 on those comments. I was able to watch a stream for the first time since last season. We looked a lot better than our results suggest. If we can stay up this season, I think this side can build into something decent. The shooting opportunities were a big disappointment though. Yes you are right with your comments but we need some decent defenders a RB and CB and then we could be OK. But the opposition have defenders to spare as we only have one striker up that and fact we have no decent wingers prevents us shooting in the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mprobert Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Perhaps deserved a point. We missed Schneiderlin. Wotton was poor, Gobern didn't do well at AML but did when he moved to DM and Lancashire is poor. Euell should have scored. Yes, all good points. Most of the second half we looked capable of scoring, which wasn't the case in the first half. Some tough games ahead now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 +1 on those comments. I was able to watch a stream for the first time since last season. We looked a lot better than our results suggest. If we can stay up this season, I think this side can build into something decent. The shooting opportunities were a big disappointment though. I watched a stream as well, you've just go to compare the power and address when Skacel shoots to the fuddyduddy fa*ny ups from Lallana. He creates but does nothing at the end.We won without him because he was replaced by people who can hit the f*cking ball hard towards the goal. the sooner he goes the better we'll be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 flashes of adequacy but otherwise pants. get some big blokes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Crap Coach. Crap tactics. Crap players*. Crap defence. Crap leadership. Crap support (understandable). Crap Chairman. Crap opposition who even played down to our level. *With some exceptions - Lot's of effort granted and Lallana was superb. We have x3 good nippers - Surman, Lallana and Shneiderlin (?! where are you??? - come on Lowe ask Wenger if we can play him a little more often) - the rest should be in the reserves in the CCC. We need a manager who understands what and who he is playing against in this league. And we need a manager who is allowed to select and pick his team Mr Lowe. We need a manager who doesnt rely on his sidekick to tell him what to do during games. With a GD of minus 10 and teams like Watford below us I'm afraid Rupert Lowe has continued to lead us to League One. No surprises. Should really have been 0-2, well done Kelvin for the save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 One win from 8 home games, 6 points from a possible 24 at SMS, is simply not good enough. This experiment has had it's day, unfortunately there is probably no realistic alternative. Anybody running a book on how many we will concede in the next two games ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Ringwood Saint Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 First time for me too this season. they try and try but so many times get close to goal and go up blind alleys. Defensively we look so niave and light weight. The shooting is abysmal and why we start with one up at home is beyond me.. Anyway 10 out of 10 for trying i suppose.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Well I'm not surprised... Get a decent crowd in for a TV game (any concessions?) and we fail to deliver again. Not going to say "Told you so" but we continue to suffer for lack of leadership on and off the pitch. There's always the hope there will be three poorer teams in the Division come May 2009 - a show down at The City Ground - winner stays up and loser goes down. Men against boys? I know who I'd back! Bitterly disappointed again...just as I was getting more positive. I think that the secret is to ride through these peaks and troughs expecting nothing. If they lose then you were right. If they win then it's a pleasant surprise! A lack of experience and guile is our problem. Normally when someone debuts for a team they have an abundance of older more experienced and wiser heads around them to help and advise. When you are breaking as many youngsters as we are the balance is too far the other way. Naivete seems to rule and it will cost dearly. All power to the players I beleive, on the whole, that they are giving their very best. Sadly it's not quite enough against teams of men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Toothless. McGoldrick was good i thought but he has no chance chasing hopeful punts from Lancashire etc. DMG's general play has improved massively since i last saw him. Wotton was awful, Gobern looked clueless and Euell should have scored. A very flacid attacking display, bar some touches of brilliance from Llalana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Home game, live on Sky, chance for them to show what they can do after a good result last week and we got a damp skwib of a performance. To be honest I dont think we would have scored if we'd played till Monday. I fear for these youngsters - they are not good enough to go it alone and need help. Next up Wolves and Reading - by then - any confidence that they might have could be shattered, and we could be languishing in a relegation fight - and I seriously doubt their ability to get us out of it. Sorry - but I think these are worrying times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 I watched a stream as well, you've just go to compare the power and address when Skacel shoots to the fuddyduddy fa*ny ups from Lallana. He creates but does nothing at the end.We won without him because he was replaced by people who can hit the f*cking ball hard towards the goal. the sooner he goes the better we'll be. COR you really are begining to get reeled in,but its alright for Lallana to lay on good balls for others to feck up i.e Euell but nothing is said.I do believe you have a total dislike for Lallana,you are Glen Close in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Im not totally peeved as I normally am when we lose on TV. Everyone loves a tryer and we really did give it a go today so can't be massiveley annoyed at the lads. Shame though, as I think we deserved a point there. Ratings: Davis - 7 - Saved a penalty and looked pretty assured, wasnt hugely busy but did everything well. Cork - 8 - Relaly impressed with him, looked very composed and always wants the ball. Lancashire - 5 - Didn't deal well with Adebola at all. Pearce - 7 - Gives side a lot more strength. Skacel - 6 - Didn't get involved enough. Thompson - 5 - Was kept pretty quiet. Lallana - 8 - As always, looked like one of the only guys who was going to create something. Surman - 8 - Ran the show in parts, very good performance. Wotton - 5 - Game passed him buy today. Gobern - 6 - Looked ok, just didn't create enough. McGoldrick - 6 - Thought he was ok today, did his fair share of work. BWP - 6 - Was alright when he came on. Euell - 5 - Didn't do a lot and missed a really good chance. Peckhart - 6 - Played well from the little time he was on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 I t is not the team, it is the system played especially, at home, one so called front man...poor coach/management decision making. JP and the Director of Football.. Mind you poor old JP tries his best bearing in mind what names he is left with by Lowey.. Get the lot out now before its too late. Get a football man in charge of football matters now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Ringwood Saint Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Toothless. McGoldrick was good i thought but he has no chance chasing hopeful punts from Lancashire etc. DMG's general play has improved massively since i last saw him. Wotton was awful, Gobern looked clueless and Euell should have scored. A very flacid attacking display, bar some touches of brilliance from Llalana Agree with all your points.. prticularly impressed by DMG's effort today..probably coz he was on TV and looking for a move!! Lallana does have a fantastic touch but needs to get LeTizz to teach him how to finish..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Headed Jesus Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Toothless. McGoldrick was good i thought but he has no chance chasing hopeful punts from Lancashire etc. DMG's general play has improved massively since i last saw him. Wotton was awful, Gobern looked clueless and Euell should have scored. A very flacid attacking display, bar some touches of brilliance from Llalana Agree with most of that, McGoldrick battled manfully given he was on his own. Why do we play an away formattion at home? Lallana looked good but he can't shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 COR you really are begining to get reeled in,but its alright for Lallana to lay on good balls for others to feck up i.e Euell but nothing is said.I do believe you have a total dislike for Lallana,you are Glen Close in disguise. Lallana maybe skillful but he is not helping us to points and therefore I suggest he is sold and we get in some decent defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Maybe playing not so well on TV is a tactic to keep our younger future stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 "Saints 0........" says it all really. Nothing up front. And playing a system that really is not going to get anywhere at home, especially. Where has this "total football" bullsiht that we were sold a few months ago gone? I thought the plan was to play it around, score goals, let in a few maybe, but at least give it a go. But we have nothing up front, hence "Saints 0........" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 I t is not the team, it is the system played especially, at home, one so called front man...poor coach/management decision making. JP and the Director of Football.. Mind you poor old JP tries his best bearing in mind what names he is left with by Lowey.. Get the lot out now before its too late. Get a football man in charge of football matters now. I think 4 2 3 1 is of no use here. If it was why are other clubs not playing it. It is only good if you have top class wingers like Paine and Sydenham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Cannot fault the effort, however that is another pretty ordinary side we have lost to at home. Very predictable and depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hacienda Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Lallana maybe skillful but he is not helping us to points and therefore I suggest he is sold and we get in some decent defenders. Since most of us have voiced our obvious need for defenders since pre-season I would suggest you don't hold your breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 1 step forward.....3 steps backwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Lallana was good until he got a scoring chance. That's not a reason to sell him, it's a reason to grow and nurture him. He needs more training is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Usual garbage at home from the coach that is completely bereft of ideas how to play home games and attack the opposition. Clueless in front of goal, and luck that we were still in it with City playing like a bunch of pussies in front of goal. Good stop by Davis from the pen, Lancashire was lucky not to give another one away. Nothing in front of goal, out muscled in midfield by some very ordinary opposition. 1 home win in the League is nailed on relegation form, but hey ho Wolves and Reading next. Probably be 6 points. At least the Sky curse did not strike, only the home curse and the curse of the clueless coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Disappointing - but soem good play. I really do not rate Euell, BWP, or Wootton and our defence still looks very brittle. Three or four of them stood like statues when BC scored their goal. Leaving McGoldrick all on his own up front is very silly - he needs some support. I thought Surman looked good today - he made some mistakes but was in the centre of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 COR you really are begining to get reeled in,but its alright for Lallana to lay on good balls for others to feck up i.e Euell but nothing is said.I do believe you have a total dislike for Lallana,you are Glen Close in disguise. I admire his skill with the ball, could be an excellent player but he really isn't adapted to the role he's trying to play;He should be switching back and forth with McGoldrick and getting closer in, hardly ever gets into the box from what I saw today.Needs to be given a different role perhaps and leave his place to someone more powerful (with powerful shooting ability).Can't see where else he'd fit in really though;Don't understand the Glen Close reference though, wasn't she in The Shield lately? I'd play Rudi in the deep striker position and put Surman back to see how it goes. Got to get Morgan back first though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Everyone loves a tryer and we really did give it a go today so can't be massiveley annoyed at the lads. Shame though, as I think we deserved a point there. The problem is that there are too many games where fans come away thinking 'we were unlucky today'. Losing becomes a habit. After the second half at Preston, with all the commitment spirit, and passion the team displayed, this was an opportunity to demonstrate that performance had showed the teams true qualities. Yet here we are again with just about everybody saying that we were clueless and lightweight in attack, and naive ( at best ) in defence. JP, however nice a guy he may be, is a one trick pony; we need to be more aggressive in the home games and get more bodies in the box. To many times the opposition defence find they are playing 2 or even 3 against our 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hacienda Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Lots of effort but we are simply toothless up front, weak at the back and paper thin in midfield. Too many kids and not enough leadership. I weep for the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 We need to play two up front - especialy at home. We deservered a draw. Watch us beat Wolves next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 I think 4 2 3 1 is of no use here. If it was why are other clubs not playing it. It is only good if you have top class wingers like Paine and Sydenham When Paine and Sydenham played, football was 4-2-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Something strange is happening if i am being agreed with! Twice! Not sure how people can blame Portvliet, he didn't exactly have many options up top available to him did he? Play Pekhart and we would just lump it from the first minute, play BWP and he will run like a headless chicken up dark alleys, as he did when he came on. The real problem was the lack of anyone able to thread a decent pass, something for DMG to latch onto. Surman was covering a lot of ground in the middle and endeavoured to create, but Wotton was horrible. Lallana in the middle with Surman would maybe have been a better option but would leave the already dodgy back 4 exposed! Lose Lose for JP really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint63 Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Very poor - especially the first half tactics. We have no outlet up front and one way of playing until it's too late. It's still men against lightweight boys. We will only learn when it's too late, this model isn't working at Championship level. Pretty football alone is not enough. I'm afraid also that Lancashire is not good enough yet at this level. I started suporting Saints in the old second division. I have never seen them in the third tier. When did I first see them? 1963! We are aiming at unchartered waters next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfclegend Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Toothless. McGoldrick was good i thought but he has no chance chasing hopeful punts from Lancashire etc. DMG's general play has improved massively since i last saw him. Wotton was awful, Gobern looked clueless and Euell should have scored. A very flacid attacking display, bar some touches of brilliance from Llalana how was mcgoldrick good? he missed a sitter and didn't do anything else and its Lallana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 November, 2008 Share Posted 8 November, 2008 Something strange is happening if i am being agreed with! Twice! Not sure how people can blame Portvliet, he didn't exactly have many options up top available to him did he? Play Pekhart and we would just lump it from the first minute, play BWP and he will run like a headless chicken up dark alleys, as he did when he came on. The real problem was the lack of anyone able to thread a decent pass, something for DMG to latch onto. Surman was covering a lot of ground in the middle and endeavoured to create, but Wotton was horrible. Lallana in the middle with Surman would maybe have been a better option but would leave the already dodgy back 4 exposed! Lose Lose for JP really Too true, Morgan is essential to our game, unfortunately he's 19 years old and not used to football week in week out. Maybe still growing as well; Thought that Surman was really good today, at least that's a positive, Gobern was too predictable and maybe a bit overawed, shouldn't have started him but what were the other options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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