Realistic replacement managers

[Mole]

Chris Marsden would be my choice.

 

Since the day he left Saints we've gone down hill so therefore he could be the man to reverse the decline.

[fish fingers]

Bob Monkhouse - about as realistic as your suggesiton.

[dubai_phil]

Chris Marsden would be my choice.

 

Since the day he left Saints we've gone down hill so therefore he could be the man to reverse the decline.

 

Good plan, let's replace an inexperienced coach with an inexperienced coach....

 

Like the sentiment behind the idea but really, and yes one day he could make damned fine manager, but for a first job in English Football??? did you not see Dodd in charge last season?

[Saints67]

Hmmm this thread has a post from Dalek2003 written all over it.

[Andy_Porter]

What is Marsden doing these days? is he coaching at all?

 

I'd probably take Dowie at the moment.

[Roman]

What is Marsden doing these days? is he coaching at all?

 

I'd probably take Dowie at the moment.

 

Dowie was forced out at QPR because he rebelled against the meddling from Briatore. See a pattern?

[Give it to Ron]

Hmmm this thread has a post from Dalek2003 written all over it.

 

Who would he want? ;-)

[Andy_Porter]

Dowie was forced out at QPR because he rebelled against the meddling from Briatore. See a pattern?

 

Good point.

 

We will probably end up with Holloway or something if Jan does leave or gets sacked.

[krissyboy31]

No experiments, no gambles. Someone who knows English football, with a proven track record at this level and one that is used to working to a budget. IMO the manager is the most important person in the club and going for the cheap option time and time again has cost this club fortunes over the years and continues to do so.

[SaintRobbie]

Shearer... but he'd want to be a manager and not work for Lowe....

 

So. Realistically? Get rid of Lowe and get a takeover through with Shearer.

 

 

... worse case scenario, we'll need someone who will deliver success and be able to work with Lowe, realistically? Who the f**k would want to come to this appallingly run club with Lowe in charge? Honestly?

[dubai_phil]

What is Marsden doing these days? is he coaching at all?

 

I'd probably take Dowie at the moment.

 

According to Wiki he ceased to exist when he packed in playing in Sheffield Wednesday in 2005, so not exactly a high profile managerial career so far

[Mole]

Good plan, let's replace an inexperienced coach with an inexperienced coach....

 

Like the sentiment behind the idea but really, and yes one day he could make damned fine manager, but for a first job in English Football??? did you not see Dodd in charge last season?

 

Forget coaching ability, you employ coaches for that. A good manager is one who inspires and is respected and who players want to play well for.

[Andy_Porter]

Billy Davies would be my first choice, I think. I doubt he's an expensive manager and he would hopefully be able to make us harder to beat.

[Wade Garrett]

Shearer... but he'd want to be a manager and not work for Lowe....

 

So. Realistically? Get rid of Lowe and get a takeover through with Shearer.

 

 

... worse case scenario, we'll need someone who will deliver success and be able to work with Lowe, realistically? Who the f**k would want to come to this appallingly run club with Lowe in charge? Honestly?

 

I don't think your realistically is very realistic. There isn't anyone out there to take us over. I'm getting fed up with cryptic posts from Morph, or hints from Long Shot about Crouch working on something. It's the same as being strung along by LLS, HelpMeRhonda or Saint David.

 

Any manager will struggle with our current DOF.

[Mole]

Billy Davies would be my first choice, I think. I doubt he's an expensive manager and he would hopefully be able to make us harder to beat.

 

I do like Billy Davies, but he couldn't work under Lowe. There would be a clash of Egos.

[ladysaint]

Pearson for me if he would come back, like to see what he could achieve with the players we have.

[Andy_Porter]

I do like Billy Davies, but he couldn't work under Lowe. There would be a clash of Egos.

 

True, could say that about nearly anyone though. I can see Lowe waiting too long to get rid of Jan though.

[Nexstar]

Pearson for me if he would come back, like to see what he could achieve with the players we have.

 

Costs too much, hence why he left in the first place...

[Roman]

Costs too much, hence why he left in the first place...

 

Said whom, I wonder?

[SaintRobbie]

I don't think your realistically is very realistic. There isn't anyone out there to take us over. I'm getting fed up with cryptic posts from Morph, or hints from Long Shot about Crouch working on something. It's the same as being strung along by LLS, HelpMeRhonda or Saint David.

 

Any manager will struggle with our current DOF.

 

Which is eactly what I was trying to say. If Lowe was to leave we might stand a chance of recruiting someone and bring back some fans. But he won't ... unless he's forced.

[um pahars]

Costs too much, hence why he left in the first place...

 

Was it Public Enemy who sung Don't Believe The Hype?????

[Thedelldays]

billy davies

glenn hoddle

ian holloway

alan shearer

joe kinnear

iain dowie

[Give it to Ron]

Alan Curbishley?

[Andy_Porter]

Kinnear would actually be a good shout when he leaves his post at Newcastle, still think i'd prefer Davies though. He knows how to survive in this league with limited resources.

[Mole]

Kinnear would actually be a good shout when he leaves his post at Newcastle, still think i'd prefer Davies though. He knows how to survive in this league with limited resources.

 

 

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2008/10/03/audio-hear-joe-kinnear-s-full-unbleeped-uncensored-rant-at-mirror-man-simon-bird-115875-20770121/

[OldNick]

I would go for Davies but Cotterill is often at the games (probably scouting for other clubs) and he was in the frame one time. A so called up and coming manager at one stage (not that I particularily want him but just an observation)

[NickG]

billy davies

glenn hoddle

ian holloway

alan shearer

joe kinnear

iain dowie

 

realistic? Shearer -loads of money new board spiritual home premiership Newcastle or...us?

[Andy_Porter]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2008/10/03/audio-hear-joe-kinnear-s-full-unbleeped-uncensored-rant-at-mirror-man-simon-bird-115875-20770121/

 

I saw that when he first done it, interesting character.

[Thedelldays]

nick...didnt you used to be against davies at any level due to his so called "style"...?

[OldNick]

nick...didnt you used to be against davies and any level due to his so called "style"...?

not me DD, that was people like warnock, Dowie.I was very much for him before NP was chosen.

[NickG]

this nick?

Never fancied him -think he is decent enough manager but not one who would have excited me. As always depends on who is realistic. Not convinced JP is the main problem at the moment so not convinced a change would help

[um pahars]

this nick?

Never fancied him -think he is decent enough manager but not one who would have excited me. As always depends on who is realistic. Not convinced JP is the main problem at the moment so not convinced a change would help

 

What is the main problem then IYHO??

[NickG]

think Wotte would be the likely replacement

[Glasgow_Saint]

bring back Burley

[ottery st mary]

Where is Nigel Pearson when you need him...

Any chance.....Not really but there you go.

Alan Curbishley sounds a good idea....But you have to rid the club of Lowey first.

Alan Shearer.....If not someone like Danny Wilson at MK Dons......Would anyone want to come here with Lowey...Doubt it very much.

[Thedelldays]

bring back Burley

 

 

braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap

[Glasgow_Saint]

 

 

braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap

 

brap? not heard of him? Sounds german?

[NickG]

What is the main problem then IYHO??

 

money. But more the fact that it seems to have surprised the board (which ever one you want!) so have had to drastically reduce playing staff without the foundations of experienced players behind them. We seem to have jumped from one extreme (pay well, experienced players) to the other (not even able to afford CCC players at their prime).

 

Why can we not afford to compete with everyone in CCC? Lack of financial planning? Don't know.

 

There is no way Lowe thinks that Pekhart is as good as John + Rasiak + Saga, and don't buy the ruining club out of spite, so why are we so badly off?

 

We have excellent young players but we shouldn't have to rely on them. I think JP likes developing youngsters but am sure he would like to bring them in more slowly.

[Badger]

It is pointless even contemplating a replacement manager whilst the 'beetroot cheeked ' one is in command at the club.

 

But await some simpleton to suggest Benali,or MLT.

 

Probably the same simpleton who 18 months ago suggested Dodd.

[Glasgow_Saint]

what about Benali or MLT?

[ottery st mary]

Then JP should be running the Youth set up with Wotte and get a proper football Manager in to run first team ..now.

[saint lard]

Billy Davies please.

[sandwichsaint]

Here we go again; we've had six(?)!!! managers since WGS left and only one that has really united the fan base, NP.

 

Face facts, we have been royaly shafted by the appointment of JP, he's not up to it, never was and never will be. One dimensional, naive, lacking in any understanding of the 'english way'. He is a one-way ticket to oblivion, 1 home win from 8 (bring back Branfoot!) and crowds (real people, not made up figures) nudging 10K.

 

Looks like we're back to 'continuity' v 'let's change while there's still time'; would we be where we are if so many hadn't pleaded for GB 'to be given more time'?

 

What a waste that turned out to be giving him all that parachute money and then some again, when what we really needed was a bit more ambition/togetherness/direction/expectation (and a lot less drift and naked under-performance) .

 

Much as JP seems a nice guy I'd have to come down on the side of change while there's still time; and as to the title thread, who would 'realistically' come here? Narrows it down somewhat doesn't it?

 

I'd take any of these from where we are now, over where JV's taking us:

 

Andy Hessentaler (kept the Gills in CCC for 3-4 years against all odds. Currently flying at Dover with 15 wins from 16 this season and could still play in this league! Have to be quick though, he's a decent long shot for the vacant Watford job apparently).

 

Steve Tilson (I would have taken him when GB was appointed. Has over-achieved year on year at Southend and deserves one shot at the big time, if SFC can still be called the big time. Plays good football on a very limited buget)

 

Phil Parkinson (where's he now?) seems to have gone off the rader since Hull but did really well at Col U for several seasons.

 

Peter Taylor, my fave lower-league budget rent-a-manager. These youngsters would be made for him.

 

Micky Adams, Saints connections and years at Leicester and Cov must have taught him something about relegation dog fights!

 

And there's a bloke at Leicester that fits the bill but apparantly he's too expensive so we will pass over him.

 

You asked for realistic candidates so I've discounted the Dowies/Davis'/Shearers/Wengers etc. and for Wotte it's worth I can't see RL parting with JV for at least 12months up to and including relegation and/or admin, he would rather part with another 5000 fans before admitting he was wrong (again!)

[OldNick]

Here we go again; we've had six(?)!!! managers since WGS left and only one that has really united the fan base, NP.

 

Face facts, we have been royaly shafted by the appointment of JP, he's not up to it, never was and never will be. One dimensional, naive, lacking in any understanding of the 'english way'. He is a one-way ticket to oblivion, 1 home win from 8 (bring back Branfoot!) and crowds (real people, not made up figures) nudging 10K.

 

Looks like we're back to 'continuity' v 'let's change while there's still time'; would we be where we are if so many hadn't pleaded for GB 'to be given more time'?

 

What a waste that turned out to be giving him all that parachute money and then some again, when what we really needed was a bit more ambition/togetherness/direction/expectation (and a lot less drift and naked under-performance) .

 

Much as JP seems a nice guy I'd have to come down on the side of change while there's still time; and as to the title thread, who would 'realistically' come here? Narrows it down somewhat doesn't it?

 

I'd take any of these from where we are now, over where JV's taking us:

 

Andy Hessentaler (kept the Gills in CCC for 3-4 years against all odds. Currently flying at Dover with 15 wins from 16 this season and could still play in this league! Have to be quick though, he's a decent long shot for the vacant Watford job apparently).

 

Steve Tilson (I would have taken him when GB was appointed. Has over-achieved year on year at Southend and deserves one shot at the big time, if SFC can still be called the big time. Plays good football on a very limited buget)

 

Phil Parkinson (where's he now?) seems to have gone off the rader since Hull but did really well at Col U for several seasons.

 

Peter Taylor, my fave lower-league budget rent-a-manager. These youngsters would be made for him.

 

Micky Adams, Saints connections and years at Leicester and Cov must have taught him something about relegation dog fights!

 

And there's a bloke at Leicester that fits the bill but apparantly he's too expensive so we will pass over him.

 

You asked for realistic candidates so I've discounted the Dowies/Davis'/Shearers/Wengers etc. and for Wotte it's worth I can't see RL parting with JV for at least 12months up to and including relegation and/or admin, he would rather part with another 5000 fans before admitting he was wrong (again!)

I think I d rather keep the one we've got than that list..and Peter Taylor!!

[saint_stevo]

Boothroyd?

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

Personally I think we need to get MLT in on some level. Not necessarily as manager, but he must play a role somewhere

[Delmary]

Personally I think we need to get MLT in on some level. Not necessarily as manager, but he must play a role somewhere

Centre midfield?

[L]

The only realistic name that has been mentioned is Phil Parkinson. Mainly because, as far as i know, he is out of a job and wouldn't cost any money but also has managerial experience in this division.

[St Marco]

Billy Davies.

 

He has done nothing for well over a year.

 

However i don't think it matters if we sack Jan and bring in Fergie, Lowe will still require them to be a yes man.

[Micky]

Billy Davies would be my first choice, I think. I doubt he's an expensive manager and he would hopefully be able to make us harder to beat.

 

With all due respect Andy - right now even I could make us harder to beat...!!! We are the leagues 'soft touch' - far too many babies in a mans world and it's falling apart fast.

 

Next manager - don't know - but without improvement in form over the next 10 games or so, we could be in deep poo. By then asking any new man to try to turn it around would probably be toutamount to requesting a miracle.