An interesting evening

[ladysaint]

Went to the Freemantle pub last night and must say how impressed I was with Jan & Mark Wotte who were accompanied by Olly Lancashire and Lloyd James. It was a very interesting evening. A few things of interest is that they do firmly believe that Lallana and Surman will still be here after January, and they are hoping to keep Cork until the end of season, Dyer will be returning from his loan period. Lots more info and will try to remember more later. If they do visit your pub/area I would recommend you go along as they seem to be trying to rekindle the spirit of Southampton Football Club and also doing it totally independently, i.e. its their choice to visit the fans not the board.

I also took the opportunity to speak to Dean Gorre and again was so impressed with him he assured me that exciting times lie ahead with the style of football and what this young team can achieve, he seems a great motivator and really hope that he is offered a contract with the club.

Many thanks to Andy the landlord of the Freemantle for hosting the evening, thoroughly enjoyed it and thanks to Jan, Mark, Olly and Lloyd for attending.

[La BoIS Saint]

Hi Ladysaint

 

How many fans were there?

 

See you tomorrow.

[mprobert]

Very encouraging. Good to hear some positive news on here, and the guys seem to be genuinely trying to do something special at Saints, good on them.

[ladysaint]

I would say about 50 - 60 its not a very big pub, Jan actually mentioned that he was attending the London Saints on Saturday after the game, told him we would buy him a pint if they won :-)

[slickmick]

Any mention about Schnederlin ? And who's Dean Gorre ?

[bungle]

I would say about 50 - 60 its not a very big pub, Jan actually mentioned that he was attending the London Saints on Saturday after the game, told him we would buy him a pint if they won :-)

 

Will you buy me a pint if we win?

[ladysaint]

He didnt mention Schnederlin but Dean Gorre is the guy they have brought in as first team trainer, ex Dutch international player and has experience of playing/coaching in the championship. Did say that Lee Holmes has now started training again.

[solentstars]

Went to the Freemantle pub last night and must say how impressed I was with Jan & Mark Wotte who were accompanied by Olly Lancashire and Lloyd James. It was a very interesting evening. A few things of interest is that they do firmly believe that Lallana and Surman will still be here after January, and they are hoping to keep Cork until the end of season, Dyer will be returning from his loan period. Lots more info and will try to remember more later. If they do visit your pub/area I would recommend you go along as they seem to be trying to rekindle the spirit of Southampton Football Club and also doing it totally independently, i.e. its their choice to visit the fans not the board.

I also took the opportunity to speak to Dean Gorre and again was so impressed with him he assured me that exciting times lie ahead with the style of football and what this young team can achieve, he seems a great motivator and really hope that he is offered a contract with the club.

Many thanks to Andy the landlord of the Freemantle for hosting the evening, thoroughly enjoyed it and thanks to Jan, Mark, Olly and Lloyd for attending.

good news its good to hear ,glad jan is going out to meet the fans.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

good news its good to hear ,glad jan is going out to meet the fans.

 

Certainly is, they appear to be making more of an effort than our two chairmen, although they probably wouldn't be as well received which stops that idea dead in it's tracks!

[Fowllyd]

Certainly is, they appear to be making more of an effort than our two chairmen, although they probably wouldn't be as well received which stops that idea dead in it's tracks!

 

I dread to think of what would happen if Lowe and/or Wilde decided to grace any Southampton pub with their presence! Good to see Poortvliet and Wotte getting out there and talking to fans though - hats off to them for that.

[solentstars]

Certainly is, they appear to be making more of an effort than our two chairmen, although they probably wouldn't be as well received which stops that idea dead in it's tracks!

i expect the 2 chairmen would be lost in that establishment ,unlike jan who likes his dutch courage.

[Big Bad Bob]

i expect the 2 chairmen would be lost in that establishment ,unlike jan who likes his dutch courage.

 

Don't, you'll be starting the 'our Head Coach is a ****-head' rumours all over again!!

[solentstars]

Don't, you'll be starting the 'our Head Coach is a ****-head' rumours all over again!!

burley the tea -totaler told mr;)

[Saint_clark]

"firmly believe" is nothing like a guarantee.

[Big Bad Bob]

"firmly believe" is nothing like a guarantee.

 

And yet you take the paper rumour that Spurs will have Lalanna/Surman for £5M as gospel :smt010

[ExSt Peter Saint]

Do the players read this forum? I hope not, for their sake.

[Leicestersaint]

Thank you Ladysaint for posting some positive encouraging news about our team - it's a shame a few more posters don't follow your example!

 

I still think this side will come good - come on you saints!

[Bailey]

Do the players read this forum? I hope not, for their sake.

 

A number of players even have accounts on here!

[thefuriousb]

Went to the Freemantle pub last night and must say how impressed I was with Jan & Mark Wotte who were accompanied by Olly Lancashire and Lloyd James. It was a very interesting evening. A few things of interest is that they do firmly believe that Lallana and Surman will still be here after January, and they are hoping to keep Cork until the end of season, Dyer will be returning from his loan period. Lots more info and will try to remember more later. If they do visit your pub/area I would recommend you go along as they seem to be trying to rekindle the spirit of Southampton Football Club and also doing it totally independently, i.e. its their choice to visit the fans not the board.

I also took the opportunity to speak to Dean Gorre and again was so impressed with him he assured me that exciting times lie ahead with the style of football and what this young team can achieve, he seems a great motivator and really hope that he is offered a contract with the club.

Many thanks to Andy the landlord of the Freemantle for hosting the evening, thoroughly enjoyed it and thanks to Jan, Mark, Olly and Lloyd for attending.

 

I was in attendance too. Ladysaint's summary gives a real good tatse of the evening.

 

Both Jan and Mark came across very well. Mark even nailed one question about whether we should play 4-4-2 at home, esp as its what the kids are brought up on, as advocated by Case, Armstrong & Dennis on the radio. He defended their desire to play (a variant) of 4-3-3, and asked Lloyd to confirm exactly how they have been brought up to play (answer: 4-3-3!!). Also asked what formation did we play last year, and how did we play?

 

The guffaws and "****ing awful" responses were answer enough! :-)

 

One thing to add on Jack Cork is that Chelsea do not see him having a future there. Also got the impression that Jack is loving it here.... so fingers crossed.

 

Jan also commented on the Reading game, saying that he was almost moved to tears not just with the performance, but also with the response of the 4000 that travelled up.

 

I spoke to Jan after. He said that any "over-play", one pass too many is not something he has expressly told them to do. Its just that the lads are enjoying playing. Its just their enthusiasm.

 

He said that opposition managers were genuinely encouraging and full of praise for our play. He spoke particularly about McCarthy, Coleman & Martinez.

 

I briefly mentioned Morgan as he spoke of Llalan & Drew, and he agreed that the kid sure could pass a football. I got the feeling he rates him very very highly.

 

Briefly spoke to Dean Gorre too...Asked him if there was a chance we could get his son on loan from Man U but he was not sure Fergie was prepared to take him out from under wraps just yet. He would try though as he felt the experience would benefit his development :-)

 

In summary, I hope people get up off the sofa and get themselves back down to SMS and support the team. Jan and the guys don't need the politics. They just want to play and do us proud. Thats what all those there and all saints fans want.

 

The spirit of Southampton, IMO, is living on in the team at present, its among us fans where we need it to rise up again.

 

I think a "COYR" is called for!!

[ladysaint]

Thank you Ladysaint for posting some positive encouraging news about our team - it's a shame a few more posters don't follow your example!

 

I still think this side will come good - come on you saints!

 

I agree there are exciting times ahead for our club and if we want to keep our best players we have to do our part and support them. If we can add another 10k to the gate at SMS this will make one hell of a difference. We have a young exiciting team, with the promise of more entertaining, exciting football to come. With the credit crunch and the Lowe Haters etc, it is going to be difficult to get people to part with their money but in the long run it will be money well spent to keep this young and exciting team together.

 

I have met many managers over the years and other than WGS I cant say I have been impressed as much as I was last night with Jan & Mark and what they are trying to achieve at SFC.

[thefuriousb]

I agree there are exciting times ahead for our club and if we want to keep our best players we have to do our part and support them. If we can add another 10k to the gate at SMS this will make one hell of a difference. We have a young exiciting team, with the promise of more entertaining, exciting football to come. With the credit crunch and the Lowe Haters etc, it is going to be difficult to get people to part with their money but in the long run it will be money well spent to keep this young and exciting team together.

 

I have met many managers over the years and other than WGS I cant say I have been impressed as much as I was last night with Jan & Mark and what they are trying to achieve at SFC.

 

Agreed.

 

So what are you all waiting for?? :-)

[VectisSaint]

He didnt mention Schnederlin but Dean Gorre is the guy they have brought in as first team trainer, ex Dutch international player and has experience of playing/coaching in the championship. Did say that Lee Holmes has now started training again.

Interesting feedback, but just to put the record straight Gorre was never a Dutch international to the best of my knowledge. Unless I am very much mistaken he has also never played in the Championship, his playing days in England were restricted to League 1 and 2 appearances. No criticism intended, but its a bit like claiming JP is a top Dutch coach when we all know almost all of his experience has been at lower levels than the Dutch Eridivisie.

 

Hopefully JP and his team will be rolling up to a pub in Calne soon to discuss Saints with me and the rest of the Calne Saints Supporters Club. Some of the pubs are quite small so should be plenty of room:)

[ladysaint]

There are ways of increasing the gates significantly and the club are trying by reducing the ticket prices for the Forest game and if they like what they see they hopefully will return, perhaps not to every game but if they return again within the season thats something.

 

I have made suggestions before i.e. every season ticket holder bring a friend for free and fill the Chapel end up. Grandparents day, grandchildren can bring their grandparents along as a Xmas present for £5.00 each grandparent for a nominated match. You have to think out the box to get the gates increased without upsetting the ST holders. I buy my ST to support the club and my team and if someone gets in cheapers for a couple of games per season to boost the crowd all well and good, 3 points is more important to me than £3 in my pocket.

[ladysaint]

Interesting feedback, but just to put the record straight Gorre was never a Dutch international to the best of my knowledge. Unless I am very much mistaken he has also never played in the Championship, his playing days in England were restricted to League 1 and 2 appearances. No criticism intended, but its a bit like claiming JP is a top Dutch coach when we all know almost all of his experience has been at lower levels than the Dutch Eridivisie.

 

Hopefully JP and his team will be rolling up to a pub in Calne soon to discuss Saints with me and the rest of the Calne Saints Supporters Club. Some of the pubs are quite small so should be plenty of room:)

 

Apologies of course you are right, I meant experience at Championship Football as a coach with Stoke, I should do my research better.

[rpb]

"firmly believe" is nothing like a guarantee.

 

But it's quite close.

 

I doubt that anyone could 'guarantee' they won't get an offer that they couldn't refuse.

[INFLUENCED.COM]

In summary, I hope people get up off the sofa and get themselves back down to SMS and support the team. Jan and the guys don't need the politics. They just want to play and do us proud. Thats what all those there and all saints fans want.

 

The spirit of Southampton, IMO, is living on in the team at present, its among us fans where we need it to rise up again.

 

I think a "COYR" is called for!!

 

Agree 100%

[OldNick]

There are ways of increasing the gates significantly and the club are trying by reducing the ticket prices for the Forest game and if they like what they see they hopefully will return, perhaps not to every game but if they return again within the season thats something.

 

I have made suggestions before i.e. every season ticket holder bring a friend for free and fill the Chapel end up. Grandparents day, grandchildren can bring their grandparents along as a Xmas present for £5.00 each grandparent for a nominated match. You have to think out the box to get the gates increased without upsetting the ST holders. I buy my ST to support the club and my team and if someone gets in cheapers for a couple of games per season to boost the crowd all well and good, 3 points is more important to me than £3 in my pocket.

I noted when I went and watched a basketball game in the states that with the ticket you got a pizza and a coke. How about the club giving vouchers for kids to have a yorkie and coke etc in the family section.That may bring a few parents out with their kids but also help them with the cost of taking a kid to a game.(I would point out this is not of self interest)

[NickG]

I noted when I went and watched a basketball game in the states that with the ticket you got a pizza and a coke. How about the club giving vouchers for kids to have a yorkie and coke etc in the family section.That may bring a few parents out with their kids but also help them with the cost of taking a kid to a game.(I would point out this is not of self interest)

 

season ticket holders issued a voucher for 2 pints before and 1 at half time?

[Scudamore]

What an encouraging thread. A diamond in the rough! Cheers for the feedback LadySaint.

[Seaford Saint]

Great stuff, wish I'd been there....

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

One thing to add on Jack Cork is that Chelsea do not see him having a future there. Also got the impression that Jack is loving it here.... so fingers crossed.

 

Would be brilliant to keep him, even if it was just for the rest of the season. If we do raise any funds and there's the opportunity to spend a bit, then, if it's sufficient, it should be spent on this lad IMO.

[Saints67]

Thanks to all who have taken the time to put down their chats with the players and staff who attended. Very encouraging and has cheered me up. Ta.

[Thedelldays]

Certainly is, they appear to be making more of an effort than our two chairmen, although they probably wouldn't be as well received which stops that idea dead in it's tracks!

see i dont agree

 

one min people are moaning that when we hear lowe/wilde they are doing so to 'spin' a point of view...and people say chairman should never be heard of etc

 

when we dont hear from them, they get accused of not making an efforts etc...

 

cant win can they

[Window Cleaner]

see i dont agree

 

one min people are moaning that when we hear lowe/wilde they are doing so to 'spin' a point of view...and people say chairman should never be heard of etc

 

when we dont hear from them, they get accused of not making an efforts etc...

 

cant win can they

 

Anyway, ordinary supporters are much more likely to feel at ease with Jan,Mark and some of the players than Lowe,Cowan or Wilde.

[Window Cleaner]

season ticket holders issued a voucher for 2 pints before and 1 at half time?

 

Not legal I'm afraid, you're not allowed to incite people to drink alcohol.

[Gordon Mockles]

Certainly is, they appear to be making more of an effort than our two chairmen, although they probably wouldn't be as well received which stops that idea dead in it's tracks!

 

You reckon? LOL

 

Shame I missed it. My local too. Never say no to a pint and chatting football. What’s this about Dean Gorre’s son too? At United. Does anyone have any more info. on him?! Is Dean Gorre likely to join the coaching staff?! We’d do well to have some back-up and support to Jan in the first team, although isn’t it all one team, with the seamless transition and all that?! Or has that changed? Not sniping as it sounds sarky, sensible enquiry.

 

I’ve not had the chance to meet Jan yet (or Mark) but I’m really liking the way they conduct themselves and their frank, Dutch openness. It’s refreshing after the last joke of a manager we had (full circle in fact, an allegedly alcoholic manager that abused his position and did so much damage, to a committed Dutchman, so eager to succeed in our league that he (allegedly) bought himself out of his old contract and works on extremely limited resources)

[Gordon Mockles]

Not legal I'm afraid, you're not allowed to incite people to drink alcohol.

 

Or incite riots! We got a letter of warning once from our box (in the earlier St Mary's days) when Saints scored against Pompey, and we fired a cork (from a fizzed up bottle of champagne) at the Pompey fans. THEY WENT MENTAL! Clambering over people to get to the lads responsible. Not the most sensible move to make, but blo*dy funny at the time!! :smt076

[Norm]

Ladysaint, thanks for the feedback!

 

Another good evening can be had at Waterstones, Above Bar Soton this monday at 6pm. Terry Paine is signing copies of his book and chatting about football. It's a ticket only event so get into Waterstones and get one. Come on, lets support Terry on the evening:)

[St Marco]

Funny how people fall for the propoganda and some don't isn't it. Because Jan/Wotte and 2 players really want to go to a fan chat evening every other night don't they? They are going because they have been told to go simple as that. I have yet to speak to Jan but with his record and saying "everything will be alright because i said so" to me just makes me even more worried. We have won 1 game at home all season. When the results start changing then i might believe it, but they arn't.

[Big Bad Bob]

Funny how people fall for the propoganda and some don't isn't it. Because Jan/Wotte and 2 players really want to go to a fan chat evening every other night don't they? They are going because they have been told to go simple as that. I have yet to speak to Jan but with his record and saying "everything will be alright because i said so" to me just makes me even more worried. We have won 1 game at home all season. When the results start changing then i might believe it, but they arn't.

 

There's always one isn't there.........

[Scudamore]

Funny how people fall for the propoganda and some don't isn't it. Because Jan/Wotte and 2 players really want to go to a fan chat evening every other night don't they? They are going because they have been told to go simple as that. I have yet to speak to Jan but with his record and saying "everything will be alright because i said so" to me just makes me even more worried. We have won 1 game at home all season. When the results start changing then i might believe it, but they arn't.

 

Propoganda or not it can only be seen as a good thing in my eyes...

 

But then i don't have a moan at everything i can...thus my friends like me...

[ladysaint]

Sorry St Marco I disagree, I would doubt if RL would even know he was there, and Jan did say that he was not told where to go by anyone it was his own choice to meet with the fans and sure all those that were in attendance would agree with that. Dont lets dampen our spirits we have a game and three points to look forward to tomorrow. Regardless of what anyone says the team has played exceptionally well the majority of this season, were are not getting the results at home I agree but we have still played good football.

[OldNick]

All ive heard about Jan is that he is a great bloke and very down to earth.

I understand StM being cynical but I doubt RL would wish for the club to pay overtime for his staff to go and converse with the 'flatcaps'

[saintbob40]

Jan -good, honest bloke doing a good, honest job... in very difficult circumstances.

[Baldsaint]

Unless I am very much mistaken he has also never played in the Championship, his playing days in England were restricted to League 1 and 2 appearances.

 

I wanted to know a bit more about him and stumbled upon this;

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/1249157.stm

 

I assume it's the same bloke and I know it's not the championship but it's still the second tier.

[Patrick Bateman]

I was in attendance too. Ladysaint's summary gives a real good tatse of the evening.

 

Both Jan and Mark came across very well. Mark even nailed one question about whether we should play 4-4-2 at home, esp as its what the kids are brought up on, as advocated by Case, Armstrong & Dennis on the radio. He defended their desire to play (a variant) of 4-3-3, and asked Lloyd to confirm exactly how they have been brought up to play (answer: 4-3-3!!). Also asked what formation did we play last year, and how did we play?

 

The guffaws and "****ing awful" responses were answer enough! :-)

 

One thing to add on Jack Cork is that Chelsea do not see him having a future there. Also got the impression that Jack is loving it here.... so fingers crossed.

 

Jan also commented on the Reading game, saying that he was almost moved to tears not just with the performance, but also with the response of the 4000 that travelled up.

 

I spoke to Jan after. He said that any "over-play", one pass too many is not something he has expressly told them to do. Its just that the lads are enjoying playing. Its just their enthusiasm.

 

He said that opposition managers were genuinely encouraging and full of praise for our play. He spoke particularly about McCarthy, Coleman & Martinez.

 

I briefly mentioned Morgan as he spoke of Llalan & Drew, and he agreed that the kid sure could pass a football. I got the feeling he rates him very very highly.

 

Briefly spoke to Dean Gorre too...Asked him if there was a chance we could get his son on loan from Man U but he was not sure Fergie was prepared to take him out from under wraps just yet. He would try though as he felt the experience would benefit his development :-)

 

In summary, I hope people get up off the sofa and get themselves back down to SMS and support the team. Jan and the guys don't need the politics. They just want to play and do us proud. Thats what all those there and all saints fans want.

 

The spirit of Southampton, IMO, is living on in the team at present, its among us fans where we need it to rise up again.

 

I think a "COYR" is called for!!

 

Great post - sounds weird, but reading that sort of post helps to keep the "spirit of Southampton" burning inside me. I don't feel that the situation the club is currently in is all bad, as the younger lads learn to play with each other week in week out, we may well start seeing more results go our way.

 

The Plymouth match for example - fine example of the sort of match previous to this year that we would have been "unlucky to lose".

 

Can't make Charlton for personal reasons, but really really wishing I could be there!

 

Come on Saints!

[Big Bad Bob]

I wanted to know a bit more about him and stumbled upon this;

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/1249157.stm

 

I assume it's the same bloke and I know it's not the championship but it's still the second tier.

 

And just for this.....

Three sublime touches from midfielder Dean Gorre undid Portsmouth at the McAlpine Stadium on Saturday.

....he should be welcomed to the club with open arms...

[Colinjb]

I wanted to know a bit more about him and stumbled upon this;

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/1249157.stm

 

I assume it's the same bloke and I know it's not the championship but it's still the second tier.

 

Thats the bloke

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Gorre

 

Christ that Skate team was appalling, just shows how quickly things can turn given the right circumstances.

[Scudamore]

Great post - sounds weird, but reading that sort of post helps to keep the "spirit of Southampton" burning inside me. I don't feel that the situation the club is currently in is all bad, as the younger lads learn to play with each other week in week out, we may well start seeing more results go our way.

 

Thish is Andrew Shurman he ish my midfield partner, and alsho i am pleashed to shay my lover...

[tommi]

I was in attendance too. Ladysaint's summary gives a real good tatse of the evening.

 

Both Jan and Mark came across very well. Mark even nailed one question about whether we should play 4-4-2 at home, esp as its what the kids are brought up on, as advocated by Case, Armstrong & Dennis on the radio. He defended their desire to play (a variant) of 4-3-3, and asked Lloyd to confirm exactly how they have been brought up to play (answer: 4-3-3!!). Also asked what formation did we play last year, and how did we play?

 

The guffaws and "****ing awful" responses were answer enough! :-)

 

One thing to add on Jack Cork is that Chelsea do not see him having a future there. Also got the impression that Jack is loving it here.... so fingers crossed.

 

Jan also commented on the Reading game, saying that he was almost moved to tears not just with the performance, but also with the response of the 4000 that travelled up.

 

I spoke to Jan after. He said that any "over-play", one pass too many is not something he has expressly told them to do. Its just that the lads are enjoying playing. Its just their enthusiasm.

 

He said that opposition managers were genuinely encouraging and full of praise for our play. He spoke particularly about McCarthy, Coleman & Martinez.

 

I briefly mentioned Morgan as he spoke of Llalan & Drew, and he agreed that the kid sure could pass a football. I got the feeling he rates him very very highly.

 

Briefly spoke to Dean Gorre too...Asked him if there was a chance we could get his son on loan from Man U but he was not sure Fergie was prepared to take him out from under wraps just yet. He would try though as he felt the experience would benefit his development :-)

 

In summary, I hope people get up off the sofa and get themselves back down to SMS and support the team. Jan and the guys don't need the politics. They just want to play and do us proud. Thats what all those there and all saints fans want.

 

The spirit of Southampton, IMO, is living on in the team at present, its among us fans where we need it to rise up again.

 

I think a "COYR" is called for!!

 

 

Top man, top post.... finally something to read on this excuse of a forum.

 

thank you.