Saint-Armstrong Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 Michael Adebolajo given life imprisonment with no release. Michael Adebowale given a minimum of 45 years imprisonment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 didn't realise they was two different people, learn something new everyday ain't it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 Sounds about right. I believe Adebowale has a mental illness so the same sentence can't really be applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 no doubt they will get the snot beat out of them in jail. one of them will no doubt kill themselves in the next 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 no doubt they will get the snot beat out of them in jail. one of them will no doubt kill themselves in the next 10 years They'll be put in Belmarsh where they'll be treated as heroes by the majority of inmates I imagine. Death isn't good enough for these 2. How can the defence lawyers, no matter how much they're being paid, stand with these 2 c*nts and try and defend them? They're scum as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 Shame they can't make them serve their time in Colchester... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 didn't realise they was two different people, learn something new everyday ain't it! ...all look the same to you do they Bear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 Don't be that way Ottawa, I meant their names! I mean I'd been hearing bout a Michael Adebowotsit but I didn't realise there was two Michael Adebowotsits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 They'll be put in Belmarsh where they'll be treated as heroes by the majority of inmates I imagine. Death isn't good enough for these 2. How can the defence lawyers, no matter how much they're being paid, stand with these 2 c*nts and try and defend them? They're scum as well. Dumb. I get the feeling summary execution may be more your style, but under the English common law everyone accused of a crime in this country is entitled to legal representation. The barristers doing that job are acting under the instructions of their client of course. This is the cornerstone of the finest legal system in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 no doubt they will get the snot beat out of them in jail. one of them will no doubt kill themselves in the next 10 years Here's hoping. Shame we don't have the death penalty for cases like this. I can understand that it might not be imposed where there is reasonable doubt about whether the accused did it, but there was absolutely no doubt about these two at all. If one has a provable mental illlness, OK, but the other one is not deserving of one ounce of mercy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 Dumb. I get the feeling summary execution may be more your style, but under the English common law everyone accused of a crime in this country is entitled to legal representation. The barristers doing that job are acting under the instructions of their client of course. This is the cornerstone of the finest legal system in the world. I know they're entitled to it. My point was I don't know how they can sleep at night knowing they're trying, as their job, to get people like these 2 off their charges/lessen their sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 I know they're entitled to it. My point was I don't know how they can sleep at night knowing they're trying, as their job, to get people like these 2 off their charges/lessen their sentences. They are doing their job plain and simple. The alternative would seem to be that accused people - who in our system are deemed innocent until proven guilty of course - are put on trial and left to their own devices. You can rest assured that another of your "scum" barristers will be doing his level best to make sure they are convicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 They'll be put in Belmarsh where they'll be treated as heroes by the majority of inmates I imagine. Death isn't good enough for these 2. How can the defence lawyers, no matter how much they're being paid, stand with these 2 c*nts and try and defend them? They're scum as well. Because even c***s have human rights. That's not a very intelligent comment. You seem to have this strange idea the defence lawyers are defending these two because they condone their actions or share their beliefs or something similar. LOL if anything I feel sorry for the poor sods who got lumbered trying to defend those two. Their entitled lawyers by British law and that's not decided by anyone's personal feelings of them, and history has repeatedly shown thank **** that is the case. Here's hoping. Shame we don't have the death penalty for cases like this. I can understand that it might not be imposed where there is reasonable doubt about whether the accused did it, but there was absolutely no doubt about these two at all. If one has a provable mental illlness, OK, but the other one is not deserving of one ounce of mercy. Why? That's exactly what they'd want. They'd consider themselves martyrs for their cause and the news coverage would be used for extremist propaganda. Having to rot in jail for the rest of their lives is probably the best outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 I know they're entitled to it. My point was I don't know how they can sleep at night knowing they're trying, as their job, to get people like these 2 off their charges/lessen their sentences. Because it's their job. You don't honestly think they'd enjoy doing it, or being associated with those two do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 I know they're entitled to it. My point was I don't know how they can sleep at night knowing they're trying, as their job, to get people like these 2 off their charges/lessen their sentences. They can sleep at night because they are an essential part of the justice system. I think the sentences for these two scumbags is about right, hopefully they will both die inside. There should be more whole life sentences handed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 Because even c***s have human rights. That's not a very intelligent comment. You seem to have this strange idea the defence lawyers are defending these two because they condone their actions or share their beliefs or something similar. LOL if anything I feel sorry for the poor sods who got lumbered trying to defend those two. Their entitled lawyers by British law and that's not decided by anyone's personal feelings of them, and history has repeatedly shown thank **** that is the case. Why? That's exactly what they'd want. They'd consider themselves martyrs for their cause and the news coverage would be used for extremis propaganda. Having to rot in jail for the rest of their lives is probably the best outcome. Agree because I think that is much harder on there warped minds then a quick murder for revenge we would be sinking to there levels of thuggery and has they want death let's not make them martyrs .I expect they will top themselves in the end. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 Tough gig trying to get this two bstards off so expect heart wasn't in it. The ITN footage must have been pretty damning evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 RIP Lee, Quis Separabit. Rot in Hell you two scumbags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 At least some murdering scumbags don't have a get out of jail free card unlike mr Downey They deserve the life sentence they received . According to the news they scuffled with their guards when sentence was passed Their lawyer feels they should not have received that sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 Why? That's exactly what they'd want. They'd consider themselves martyrs for their cause and the news coverage would be used for extremist propaganda. Having to rot in jail for the rest of their lives is probably the best outcome. Alternatively, they could have a life-time of converting and preaching to fellow inmates, feeding off their notoriety and can and will class themselves as martyrs, all well fed and clothed, paid for by us for the next 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 Because it's their job. You don't honestly think they'd enjoy doing it, or being associated with those two do you? They can sleep at night because they are an essential part of the justice system. I think the sentences for these two scumbags is about right, hopefully they will both die inside. There should be more whole life sentences handed out. His point is correct, it is a very weird, tough job, I can't see how anyone can deal with that day in day out, I'm still fully aware why it's an essential part of our justice system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 I just hope they get buggered senseless in the showers, given their beliefs it is probably much worse to them than death. You'd have to be f**kin' brave though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 Why? That's exactly what they'd want. They'd consider themselves martyrs for their cause and the news coverage would be used for extremist propaganda. Having to rot in jail for the rest of their lives is probably the best outcome. Or is it the case that this martyr thing is really just propaganda to make everybody think that the imprisonment for an indefinite term is the greater punishment by denying them a supposed martyrdom? In reality they are probably thinking that they fooled the gullible liberal Westerners into letting them live and some opportunity will be created in the future whereby their fellow fanatics will create a hostage situation and try to bargain for their release. I'm all for giving them what they want. After all it's what I want too, so win/win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastian firefly Posted 27 February, 2014 Share Posted 27 February, 2014 Here's hoping. Shame we don't have the death penalty for cases like this. I can understand that it might not be imposed where there is reasonable doubt about whether the accused did it, but there was absolutely no doubt about these two at all. If one has a provable mental illlness, OK, but the other one is not deserving of one ounce of mercy. if there is "reasonable doubt as to whether the accused did it" that would surely mean they would be acquitted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 February, 2014 Share Posted 27 February, 2014 Alternatively, they could have a life-time of converting and preaching to fellow inmates, feeding off their notoriety and can and will class themselves as martyrs, all well fed and clothed, paid for by us for the next 50 years. No doubt will go on a much publicised hunger strike or try to take the justice system to court for a form of compensation (and win) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 27 February, 2014 Share Posted 27 February, 2014 Dumb. This is the cornerstone of the finest legal system in the world. That is an interesting view. I'm not sure everybody would agree with it. The finest money can buy, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 February, 2014 Share Posted 27 February, 2014 That is an interesting view. I'm not sure everybody would agree with it. The finest money can buy, perhaps? i sometimes think that! I sometimes think it would be much cheaper if they just asked someone v.sensible like me to make the decision + i would let them know within 5 minutes. I've learned from TV that these big court cases are often settled by who has best lawyer, not who is most guilty. I reckon if i just made gut calls overall there would be no less justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 27 February, 2014 Share Posted 27 February, 2014 - who in our system are deemed innocent until proven guilty of course - Quaint, but sadly no longer true. While sitting here typing this reply from somewhere in the Middle East I could very well be picking up a conviction for speeding on the M25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 27 February, 2014 Share Posted 27 February, 2014 Alternatively, they could have a life-time of converting and preaching to fellow inmates, feeding off their notoriety and can and will class themselves as martyrs, all well fed and clothed, paid for by us for the next 50 years. Even if they get fed and clothed, and probably get a playstaion or Sky TV - it would still be thoroughly depressing knowing that you will never be free again. Money well spent IMO. However I still think there should be special prisons for people like this that are designed to be uncomfortable and include hard labour - I would gladly pay extra tax for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 February, 2014 Share Posted 27 February, 2014 However I still think there should be special prisons for people like this that are designed to be uncomfortable and include hard labour - I would gladly pay extra tax for that. That's what I think, never going to be the case in the UK in 2014 though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 27 February, 2014 Share Posted 27 February, 2014 That's what I think, never going to be the case in the UK in 2014 though! It would make sense to have two types of prisons, one that is geared up to reforming crims that are going to be released and one where we just throw away the key and keep them there for life as cheaply as possible. We should make the whole life sentence apply to more people, not just murderers but other serial criminals who are beyond hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 31 July, 2014 Share Posted 31 July, 2014 And a conspiracy theorist arrested for alleged harassment. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2711721/Blogger-arrested-2am-raid-home-claiming-Lee-Rigbys-murder-anti-Islam-HOAX.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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