What is wrong with America

[sadoldgit]

3 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Ok, name a few then. If everyone is doing it then there must be a lot of easy examples to find.

I have read countless articles and listened to countless broadcasts where the journalists/reporters have described Reform UK as “far right” and Robinson’s views as being “far right” but if you are desperate for some names here are two recent ones - Jon Sopel and Emily Maitlis.

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Typo

[The Kraken]

3 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Woah, I'm definitely not far right, not even close. In fact, I get labelled a lunatic leftie on here. This isn't about me, this is about the hyperbolic language used by yourself and Ralph to describe anyone from the other side of the divide.

Is this still going on?! 🤣

Farmer, your post is absolutely correct.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, The Kraken said:

Is this still going on?! 🤣

Farmer, your post is absolutely correct.

You’d think it was GB News forum or The Canary on here with Ralph and Soggy.

The last place you’d think it was is a football forum.

[whelk]

What the fuck has all this got to do with America?

[whelk]

I’m sure Ralph will think London is more dangerous than Baltimore or Detroit 

https://news.sky.com/story/metropolitan-police-chief-accuses-trump-of-talking-nonsense-about-london-crime-13482563

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, whelk said:

What the fuck has all this got to do with America?

Tangentially, I suppose Farage has tried to make himself into a 10 cent Trump and echoes husks of MAGA policies eg plastic DOGE and half-fat versions of the racism and ICE. Both are obsessed with immigration.

[Farmer Saint]

25 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I have read countless articles and listened to countless broadcasts where the journalists/reporters have described Reform UK as “far right” and Robinson’s views as being “far right” but if you are desperate for some names here are two recent ones - Jon Sopel and Emily Maitlis.

Cool, but I was hoping for articles.

[Sir Ralph]

11 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

I have read countless articles and listened to countless broadcasts where the journalists/reporters have described Reform UK as “far right” and Robinson’s views as being “far right” but if you are desperate for some names here are two recent ones - Jon Sopel and Emily Maitlis.

Emily Maitlis - yes she is really balanced, no agenda whatsoever! Spend the last few years having to defend her 'non-bias' BBC position on various matters. Jon Sopel is left of centre. Again read about their backgrounds before suggesting they are sufficiently balanced to be able to give reasonable views on such matters. Its quite impressive that most posters on here have barely any idea about the background of the people they post about or ask articles for. 

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[Sir Ralph]

 

3 hours ago, whelk said:

I’m sure Ralph will think London is more dangerous than Baltimore or Detroit 

https://news.sky.com/story/metropolitan-police-chief-accuses-trump-of-talking-nonsense-about-london-crime-13482563

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[Sir Ralph]

15 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Woah, I'm definitely not far right, not even close. In fact, I get labelled a lunatic leftie on here. This isn't about me, this is about the hyperbolic language used by yourself and Ralph to describe anyone from the other side of the divide.

I dont think you're a lunatic lefite. I think you are somebody who says they have conservative values but have views that are closer to a socialist than a conservative. No conservative or business man I have ever met or worked with has the views you have. My issue with you is that you think you continue to say you have Conservative views but you constantly argue against them. 

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[egg]

8 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

I dont think you're a lunatic lefite. I think you are somebody who says they have conservative values but have views that are closer to a socialist than a conservative. No conservative or business man I have ever met or worked with has the views you have. My issue with you is that you think you continue to say you have Conservative views but you constantly argue against them. 

You don't understand true Conservative values, the meaning of socialism, and the centre ish of the political spectrum.

[Sir Ralph]

27 minutes ago, egg said:

You don't understand true Conservative values, the meaning of socialism, and the centre ish of the political spectrum.

Great statement. I'm looking forward to your explanation of conservatism but somebody who wants to increase taxes for people and expand the state, which is constantly thrown by the relevant poster, is not a conservative. Its probably you that dont understand these terms but enlighten me

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[egg]

10 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Great statement. I'm looking forward to your explanation of conservatism but somebody who wants to increase taxes and expand the statement, which is constantly thrown on here, is not a conservative. Its probably you that doesnt understand these terms but enlighten me

I'm not debating with you mate, it's pointless. I'm just explaining that you're a know it all who doesn't seem to know very much. 

Given what this thread is meant to be about, I'll bow out here, and on topic. All I'll add is that one thing that is wrong with America has found it's way here, and is highlighted by your ignorance. Their divisive left/right politics, with liberal and centrist views being erroneously viewed as leftism is a sad state of affairs. Sadly, people like you swallow that nonsense and our political "debate" is following the same course. 

Anyways, happy Saturday. 

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[Farmer Saint]

8 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

I dont think you're a lunatic lefite. I think you are somebody who says they have conservative values but have views that are closer to a socialist than a conservative. No conservative or business man I have ever met or worked with has the views you have. My issue with you is that you think you continue to say you have Conservative views but you constantly argue against them. 

I have my own values, and I align them based on manifesto's. I also think that over the last 20 years the country has absolutely gone to shit, and that's due to austerity and Brexit. That's why I argue so much for an increased spending in the public sector, as it is what is best to get this shit hole of a country working for everyone.

"No Conservative or Businessman I have ever met"...so are you saying that all businessmen you have ever met are right of centre? I would suggest stepping in a boardroom once in a while if I were you, as the reality in tech based businesses tends to be VERY different.

[Sir Ralph]

9 minutes ago, egg said:

I'm not debating with you mate, it's pointless. I'm just explaining that you're a know it all who doesn't seem to know very much. 

Given what this thread is meant to be about, I'll bow out here, and on topic. All I'll add is that one thing that is wrong with America has found it's way here, and is highlighted by your ignorance. Their divisive left/right politics, with liberal and centrist views being erroneously viewed as leftism is a sad state of affairs. Sadly, people like you swallow that nonsense and our political "debate" is following the same course. 

Anyways, happy Saturday. 

Thats fine, its obviously me that doesnt understand any of this but have a good day.

[whelk]

6 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Thats fine, its obviously me that doesnt understand any of this but have a good day.

An epiphany 

[whelk]

9 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

Emily Maitlis - yes she is really balanced, no agenda whatsoever! Spend the last few years having to defend her 'non-bias' BBC position on various matters. Jon Sopel is left of centre. Again read about their backgrounds before suggesting they are sufficiently balanced to be able to give reasonable views on such matters. Its quite impressive that most posters on here have barely any idea about the background of the people they post about or ask articles for. 

Regardless of their political leanings I assume you are not questioning their credibility as journalists?