Saint_Ash Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Is that it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 James ward prowse the next Gerrard here http://www.givemesport.com/522320-james-wardprowse-could-become-england-midfield-lynchpin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 If we dont sign him this will be a massive fail from Les Reed and a real lack of ambiton from the club. I will be seriously worried about our ability to attract players to take us to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 James ward prowse the next Gerrard here http://www.givemesport.com/522320-james-wardprowse-could-become-england-midfield-lynchpin Lampard? 3rd time lucky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 When Beckham was 20 years old, the only league games he'd played were 5 games for Preston North End on loan in the 3rd tier. Wrong. When Beckham was 20 years old, he was playing a large role in United winning the double. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Lampard? 3rd time lucky... does it matter? he has been hyped up to that same level and I very much doubt it would be a 'no brainer' or an 'amazing' signing for Schalke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Probably only through FM. He was class for me for many seasons on FM15, a pivotal player as I led Everton to multiple league titles and a Champions League trophy. For that reason alone, I hope we sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 When Beckham was 20 years old, the only league games he'd played were 5 games for Preston North End on loan in the 3rd tier. He was 19 when he played for Preston. He turned 20 on the 2nd May 1995, after his loan spell at Preston ended (he retunred to United 30 days prior to his 20th birthday). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 After 69 appearances for Utd (compared to JWP's 74 for Saints) Beckham had cemented his place as Utd's first choice right midfielder, had won two league titles and an FA cup and had won 13 caps for England on route to be becoming a global superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Lazyliegenschweinhund scumbagstein journalists, yes? Ja. Das gutterpressen mit wunderbar titten! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realis Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Hello, Saints fan from Germany here. I thought I could give you a few information about Goretzka and Schalke in general. I don't particularly like Schalke so I don't really follow him either but I think I could clear up a few things I read in this thread - Goretzka IS a great player and I think he would be an amazing addition to our team. His technical abilties are amazing, his passing is great too. I think he has played on the wing a few times but his main position is central midfield, really. - He is considered a huge talent in Germany. When he was still playing at Bochum, a lot of clubs wanted to sign him, basically all big Bundesliga clubs and a few international clubs too. There were always a lot of scouts at the Bochum games because of him. In the end, Goretzka chose to go to Schalke and it was condsidered to be a pretty good deal for them. - Injuries: Goretzka missed the first half of last season and quite a bit of the second half because of injuries, that's why he only got 10 appearances. I obviously don't know if he actually is injury prone but I would blame it at least to a certain part to the Schalke medical team. I think they are the club with the most injured players in Germany and I don't believe that it's just bad luck if a third of the squad is basically always injured. - national team: He played for the senior team once in a friendly last spring but I wouldn't read too much into that. Löw basically started nothing but U21 players that he wanted to test for future use in that match. - Bild: It's definitely NOT a high quality newspaper, although I think their football articles are not as bad as the rest. It's usually not really the information itself but the way they write about it that's kind problematic. Like in this article about Goretzka, the general tone is something like 'BPL club wants to buy another Bundesliga player because they have so much money and they just can do that to us.' In Germany, people are starting to be more and more worried about the financial power of the BPL and Bild knows that writing about something like this is a good way to get attention. I don't really think they just invented this rumour but I do think they're exagerating it. Just because we made a bit doesn't mean that this transfer has to go through after all. - Now, like I said, I think Goretzka would be a great signing for us but unfortunately can't see this actually happening. Schalke just has no reason to sell him. They don't have a lot of debts so they don't need to sell players to get money. Their squad is pretty strong the way it is right now so they don't need money to spend on other players either. Plus, most importantly, the fan's wouldn't like if Schalke sold Goretzka because he's young and good and people are putting hope into him. And Schalke's sporting director Horst Heldt is REALLY eager to get the fans behind his back after last season. The fans were so ****ed off then because of the way the team played and about Heldt's decisions and a lot of other stuff that they refused to sing and support the team in the stadium. Heldt was really, really close to being fired and he's been working very hard this summer to get back on tracks. Selling Goretzka would certainly not help him with that. - I've gotta say that I don't see much reason for him to force a transfer to us either. Schalke is a top 5 team in Germany, with a lot of supporters and even though the only play EL this year, their chances to get into the CL in the future are definitely higher than ours. Money shouldn't really be a problem, Schalke is one of the best paying team (except for Bayern of course). If he's actually fit there's a pretty high he'll get quite a lot of starts too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 Cheers for the insights Realis. Sounds pretty much like a nonstarter then. Danke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 4 August, 2015 Share Posted 4 August, 2015 as said, James Ward-Prowse is set to be the next lampard according to the internet I wonder if schalke fans would be in 'amazement' if they were linked with him..? How about a straight swap, JWP for Leon G? Then we'll be amazed and they'll be amazed. A win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 5 August, 2015 Author Share Posted 5 August, 2015 Ronald: "This player is not on my list." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 August, 2015 Share Posted 5 August, 2015 Ronald: "This player is not on my list." Did have a massive smile on his face when he said it though - FWIW, I don't think he's keen on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 August, 2015 Share Posted 5 August, 2015 Ronald: "This player is not on my list." Did have a massive smile on his face when he said it though - FWIW, I don't think he's keen on him. Shame as he sounded quite a prospect although realisticallly I couldn't see Shake selling him. But as Saint Garrettt said RK wasn't keen on this one. I didn't think signing a German player would be too high on his agenda somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 5 August, 2015 Share Posted 5 August, 2015 I thought guan said we had bid for a right sided centre midfielder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 August, 2015 Share Posted 5 August, 2015 I thought guan said we had bid for a right sided centre midfielder? Where!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 5 August, 2015 Share Posted 5 August, 2015 Where!? It was on the ITK snippet thread at the top of the forum a while ago, think it has been moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 5 August, 2015 Share Posted 5 August, 2015 Koeman didn't say which list did he? He could be not on the list of people we don't want to sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 5 August, 2015 Share Posted 5 August, 2015 If it's true we had a scout at the game between Shalke and Twente, are there any other players from those teams that would fit the bill for "us kind of signings"? When scouts go to a match they don't have to say who they're looking at, so it could be that BILD made the assumption it was this guy? As we've signed players from Twente before it seems unlikely we'd have been looking at their players as we must have a fair bit of knowledge of their players, so assuming we were looking at Shalke, are any of their CB's any good that we could have been looking at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 5 August, 2015 Share Posted 5 August, 2015 I don't think we will be buying an expensive midfielder when clasie has obviously been brought in for this reason. If we do bring in another as back up to clasie and vic it's unlikely to be a wow signing imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 5 August, 2015 Share Posted 5 August, 2015 And by that I meant defensive midfielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 6 August, 2015 Share Posted 6 August, 2015 If it's true we had a scout at the game between Shalke and Twente, are there any other players from those teams that would fit the bill for "us kind of signings"? When scouts go to a match they don't have to say who they're looking at, so it could be that BILD made the assumption it was this guy? As we've signed players from Twente before it seems unlikely we'd have been looking at their players as we must have a fair bit of knowledge of their players, so assuming we were looking at Shalke, are any of their CB's any good that we could have been looking at? Benedikt Howedes would do lovely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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