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30 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

The video I’ve seen seems to show the front agent either being clipped or having to jump out of the way. 
Not the first driver to make a reckless bad choice, in a us where officers are armed.

A car would clip me if I stood in its way and didn't move out of the way when it moved slowly away. Nothing reckless by the driver, but entirely reckless by the ICE agent. 

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Posted
28 minutes ago, egg said:

A car would clip me if I stood in its way and didn't move out of the way when it moved slowly away. Nothing reckless by the driver, but entirely reckless by the ICE agent. 

Nothing reckless? 👀😂

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Posted
1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Nothing reckless? 👀😂

Point me to her recklessness please. 

Naive, misguided, perhaps, but she wasn't reckless. The agent who killed her when he wasn't a danger to her, was reckless. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, egg said:

Point me to her recklessness please. 

Naive, misguided, perhaps, but she wasn't reckless. The agent who killed her when he wasn't a danger to her, was reckless. 

No point, some believe it was reckless, some don’t. None of us were there 

Me showing you is not going to change your mind (nor mine)

 

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Posted
59 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

The video I’ve seen seems to show the front agent either being clipped or having to jump out of the way. 
Not the first driver to make a reckless bad choice, in a us where officers are armed.

There is a clear video clip showing the wheels of the car turning away from him, him planting both feet (not jumping out of the way) and firing through the windscreen. As the car passes him he then fires twice more through the side window. Not knocked to the ground. Not ending up in hospital. Just rattled by two women who possed no obvious apparent threat to his life. He and his fellow agents then prevent the shot woman receiving medical aid. 
The lack of concern for the life of a citizen of the USA from Trump and his cronies tells you all you need to know. If you are not with us, you are the enemy.

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Posted
Just now, sadoldgit said:

There is a clear video clip showing the wheels of the car turning away from him, him planting both feet (not jumping out of the way) and firing through the windscreen. As the car passes him he then fires twice more through the side window. Not knocked to the ground. Not ending up in hospital. Just rattled by two women who possed no obvious apparent threat to his life. He and his fellow agents then prevent the shot woman receiving medical aid. 
The lack of concern for the life of a citizen of the USA from Trump and his cronies tells you all you need to know. If you are not with us, you are the enemy.

Us authorities having been shooting people dead for decades.

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Posted
1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

No point, some believe it was reckless, some don’t. None of us were there 

Me showing you is not going to change your mind (nor mine)

 

I'm asking for an explanation for your emoji response, not for you to try to convince me. 

I say she wasn't reckless because she pulled away at low speed, and it should have been obvious to the agent that she may do so as she was behind the wheel of a car with it's engine running.

What's the explanation for her being reckless? Emojis, or I wasn't there, aren't a sensible response. 

Posted
Just now, egg said:

I'm asking for an explanation for your emoji response, not for you to try to convince me. 

I say she wasn't reckless because she pulled away at low speed, and it should have been obvious to the agent that she may do so as she was behind the wheel of a car with it's engine running.

What's the explanation for her being reckless? Emojis, or I wasn't there, aren't a sensible response. 

As said, there is an absolutely no point. We clearly have different opinions and neither of us is gong to change the others mind. Spending the next hour analysing various angles of the available videos and arguing about the minutia is something I can’t be arsed to get into.

so lets just agree to disagree. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Us authorities having been shooting people dead for decades.

That’s ok then. Have they been putting poorly trained quasi military groups into their towns and cities for decades too or removing their own citizens from the country by armed thugs?

Posted
Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

As said, there is an absolutely no point. We clearly have different opinions and neither of us is gong to change the others mind. Spending the next hour analysing various angles of the available videos and arguing about the minutia is something I can’t be arsed to get into.

so lets just agree to disagree. 

No disrespect, but that's pretty pathetic. If you have an opinion, at least be willing to explain it. 

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Posted
Just now, sadoldgit said:

That’s ok then. Have they been putting poorly trained quasi military groups into their towns and cities for decades too or removing their own citizens from the country by armed thugs?

Pretty much. The national guard is a pretty big gig over there, and they have been deporting “illegal aliens” for god knows how long. 

Posted
Just now, egg said:

No disrespect, but that's pretty pathetic. If you have an opinion, at least be willing to explain it. 

What is the point, you will never ever agree. I won’t change my mind, and I am watching Mr Beast in Amazon.

going through an hour long discussion is not something I can be arsed with. I think it was reckless, you don’t. None of it matters 

Posted
13 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Nothing reckless? 👀😂

Yep, she recklessly reversed her car and turned the wheels hard to the right, accelerating slowly forward, avoiding direct contact with the agent,with her window wound down. That is a death penalty right there.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Pretty much. The national guard is a pretty big gig over there, and they have been deporting “illegal aliens” for god knows how long. 

This isn’t the National Guard.

They are taking non illegal citizens off the streets and deporting them. How long has that been going on for?

Posted
5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

What is the point, you will never ever agree. I won’t change my mind, and I am watching Mr Beast in Amazon.

going through an hour long discussion is not something I can be arsed with. I think it was reckless, you don’t. None of it matters 

If it doesn’t matter, why comment? You seem pretty happy and relaxed  with the abuse of power Brett. 

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Posted
4 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

"We're not going to have Russia or China as a neighbour"; Russia is 53 miles away from the nearest point of the United States, across the Bering Strait. That is one tenth of the distance from the most southerly point of Alaska to the the rest of the US. It is 1300 miles from Greenland to the US.

Russia is the third closest country to the US, after Canada and Mexico.

 

ALTERNATVE GEOGRAPHY !!!!!!!

 

It is just as well that they bought Alaska from Russia when they did.

Posted
55 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

This isn’t the National Guard.

They are taking non illegal citizens off the streets and deporting them. How long has that been going on for?

It’s largely the opposite it’s undocumented people they are deporting.

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What a horrible country America is. Makes you grateful how much more civilised we are over here. We have our problems but Christ we are nothing like the divided mess over there. 
 

And that ICE agent acting like nazi SS. Just move out the way and deescalate. It’s so obvious she isn’t planning to run down people.  
 

 

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2 hours ago, Wiggles31 said:

What a horrible country America is. Makes you grateful how much more civilised we are over here. We have our problems but Christ we are nothing like the divided mess over there. 
 

And that ICE agent acting like nazi SS. Just move out the way and deescalate. It’s so obvious she isn’t planning to run down people.  
 

 

She smiled at the other ICE officer and said “I’m not mad at you dude” just before the other guy shot her. Just after he shot her you hear him say “fucking bitch.”

The information is right there yet some people are still defending her murder.

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It is genuinely baffling how video evidence can be presented right to people’s eyes, from multiple angles, yet they are so brainwashed they still scramble to defend their fat bloated fuhrer at all costs. 

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Wiggles31 said:

What a horrible country America is. Makes you grateful how much more civilised we are over here. We have our problems but Christ we are nothing like the divided mess over there. 
 

And that ICE agent acting like nazi SS. Just move out the way and deescalate. It’s so obvious she isn’t planning to run down people.  
 

 

They have such a stunning and varied natural environment which they’ve destroyed through pure greed. Pumped their kids full of lead, plutonium, arsenic, cadmium, made their lakes sterile and rivers ignite, and they wonder why they end up with MAGA, serial killers, gun massacres etc. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, benjii said:

What's this shit?

US is a hostile agitator for UK and Europe now. 

Prick. Tariff increases if they don't do as they're told? 

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Wiggles31 said:

It is genuinely baffling how video evidence can be presented right to people’s eyes, from multiple angles, yet they are so brainwashed they still scramble to defend their fat bloated fuhrer at all costs. 

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On 10/01/2026 at 02:40, sadoldgit said:

1. This thread is specifically about Donald Trump not Joe Biden. The particular discussion was about what Trump had actually done. It had nothing to do with what Biden may or may not have done (and what we do know with 100% certainty is what he actually did not do whilst President). 
2. You have absolutely no idea what my opinion would have been if Biden, when he was POTUS, had done what Trump has done now.

3. It is extremely immature and myopic to accuse someone of only supporting the actions of people they “like” when they have a 20 year posting history with plenty of examples of criticising the actions of people they “like.”

4. You say that you see things “for what they really are.” Not only is that statement purely subjective, it is also made a lie by your support of many discredited conspiracy theories

5. Another immature statement. You have no idea if I would have supported Biden if he had done what Trump has done. You have just constructed another conspiracy in your head and posted it as a fact.

6. You absolutely are a Trump apologist. You have never criticised anything that he has done and let’s face it, he is open to a great deal of criticism. You are often the first one on here to defend his latest disastrous decision or action or throw the TDS deflection around.

7. For someone who does not support any of “them” you spend a lot of time either doing so on here or avoid criticism of “them” when they are open to it. 

8. When Islamic attacks occur I have called them out of extremist atrocities. How do you equate that with justification? A very simplistic and childish reaction. Let me make it easier for you to understand the difference between an apologist and someone pointing out an obvious disconnect. A certain poster on here spends a lot of time posting about brown skinned, Muslim rape gangs. You will not find any posts from him about white non Muslim rape gangs.Why one and not the other? Pointing this fact out does not excuse the actions of the former group of men. It highlights a very clear bias. I have asked the question many times (and of you). Is the rape or murder of a women more serious if carried out by a brown skinned Muslim worse and more noteworthy than if committed by a white, non- Muslim? I know you think that you have a greater intellect than the rest of us, but good luck with trying to explain how you confuse this with apologising for the criminal actions Muslims.

Once again I have handed you your arse served up on a silver platter. 🤗

1. This thread is specifically about Donald Trump not Joe Biden. The particular discussion was about what Trump had actually done. It had nothing to do with what Biden may or may not have done (and what we do know with 100% certainty is what he actually did not do whilst President). Irrelevant and wrong yet again. Biden made a tweet accusing Trump of doing nothing about Meduro, FACT. Trump did. So, was Biden right or wrong? Also, the mere fact Biden said what he did shows he would also have done similar to Trump. And for FACT, nailed on, you would have supported Biden if he had done so.

2. You have absolutely no idea what my opinion would have been if Biden, when he was POTUS, had done what Trump has done now. See above.

3. It is extremely immature and myopic to accuse someone of only supporting the actions of people they “like” when they have a 20 year posting history with plenty of examples of criticising the actions of people they “like.” This is comedy gold because this is you to a tee. You have proven time and time again you have double standards and are a full on racist hypocrite. Troy's cut welfare, they are bad who only care about the rich., Followed up a year or two later with, Obviously Labour have done their sums and knew they ad to cut the heating allowance for pensioners. So, clear double standards for all to see.

4. You say that you see things “for what they really are.” Not only is that statement purely subjective, it is also made a lie by your support of many discredited conspiracy theories. I do see things as they are and with zero bias, where as you have a total myopic bias as displayed above and in many of your posts.

5. Another immature statement. You have no idea if I would have supported Biden if he had done what Trump has done. You have just constructed another conspiracy in your head and posted it as a fact. Yes, I do know because as shown with the labour example above, you always support whatever your people do that you support/like and go against anyone you do not like no matter they do good or not. It is proven. You have no way out.

6. You absolutely are a Trump apologist. You have never criticised anything that he has done and let’s face it, he is open to a great deal of criticism. You are often the first one on here to defend his latest disastrous decision or action or throw the TDS deflection around. You absolutely are a Muslim apologist as shown countless times on here. I am not a trump apologist as I have called him out on here many times and stated countless times (that you choose to ignore for some off reason) that i support none of them. All I do is show you to be the hypocrite by exposing you each time you berate Trump of farage or any other you have a childish dislike for by showing you that you have supported others that you do like who did the same thing.

7. For someone who does not support any of “them” you spend a lot of time either doing so on here or avoid criticism of “them” when they are open to it. See above.

8. When Islamic attacks occur I have called them out of extremist atrocities. How do you equate that with justification? A very simplistic and childish reaction. No, you never have. I would guess that in at least 4 of the last attacks all you have done is berated those who went off on one about Islamic terrorism, and then justify their actions by saying whites do the same thing but more. Are you seriously trying to deny you ever say this?

Let me make it easier for you to understand the difference between an apologist and someone pointing out an obvious disconnect. A certain poster on here spends a lot of time posting about brown skinned, Muslim rape gangs. You will not find any posts from him about white non Muslim rape gangs.Why one and not the other? Pointing this fact out does not excuse the actions of the former group of men. It highlights a very clear bias. I have asked the question many times (and of you). Is the rape or murder of a women more serious if carried out by a brown skinned Muslim worse and more noteworthy than if committed by a white, non- Muslim? And I asked you (and you pretended not to see the question) if we were making our women safer or less safe but letting in all these unchecked immigrants? Can you now answer that?

I know you think that you have a greater intellect than the rest of us, but good luck with trying to explain how you confuse this with apologising for the criminal actions Muslims. No, there is no one on here calling them brown skinned, only you. People have had enough of Muslim attacks and rape gangs. Have you not?

Once again I have handed you your arse served up on a silver platter. 🤗

Nope, yet again you have made it so so easy for me to hang you out to dry.

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