Donald Trump Appreciation Thread

[egg]

30 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

The video I’ve seen seems to show the front agent either being clipped or having to jump out of the way. 
Not the first driver to make a reckless bad choice, in a us where officers are armed.

A car would clip me if I stood in its way and didn't move out of the way when it moved slowly away. Nothing reckless by the driver, but entirely reckless by the ICE agent. 

[AlexLaw76]

28 minutes ago, egg said:

A car would clip me if I stood in its way and didn't move out of the way when it moved slowly away. Nothing reckless by the driver, but entirely reckless by the ICE agent. 

Nothing reckless? 👀😂

[egg]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Nothing reckless? 👀😂

Point me to her recklessness please. 

Naive, misguided, perhaps, but she wasn't reckless. The agent who killed her when he wasn't a danger to her, was reckless. 

[AlexLaw76]

1 minute ago, egg said:

Point me to her recklessness please. 

Naive, misguided, perhaps, but she wasn't reckless. The agent who killed her when he wasn't a danger to her, was reckless. 

No point, some believe it was reckless, some don’t. None of us were there 

Me showing you is not going to change your mind (nor mine)

 

[sadoldgit]

59 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

The video I’ve seen seems to show the front agent either being clipped or having to jump out of the way. 
Not the first driver to make a reckless bad choice, in a us where officers are armed.

There is a clear video clip showing the wheels of the car turning away from him, him planting both feet (not jumping out of the way) and firing through the windscreen. As the car passes him he then fires twice more through the side window. Not knocked to the ground. Not ending up in hospital. Just rattled by two women who possed no obvious apparent threat to his life. He and his fellow agents then prevent the shot woman receiving medical aid. 
The lack of concern for the life of a citizen of the USA from Trump and his cronies tells you all you need to know. If you are not with us, you are the enemy.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, sadoldgit said:

There is a clear video clip showing the wheels of the car turning away from him, him planting both feet (not jumping out of the way) and firing through the windscreen. As the car passes him he then fires twice more through the side window. Not knocked to the ground. Not ending up in hospital. Just rattled by two women who possed no obvious apparent threat to his life. He and his fellow agents then prevent the shot woman receiving medical aid. 
The lack of concern for the life of a citizen of the USA from Trump and his cronies tells you all you need to know. If you are not with us, you are the enemy.

Us authorities having been shooting people dead for decades.

[egg]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

No point, some believe it was reckless, some don’t. None of us were there 

Me showing you is not going to change your mind (nor mine)

 

I'm asking for an explanation for your emoji response, not for you to try to convince me. 

I say she wasn't reckless because she pulled away at low speed, and it should have been obvious to the agent that she may do so as she was behind the wheel of a car with it's engine running.

What's the explanation for her being reckless? Emojis, or I wasn't there, aren't a sensible response. 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, egg said:

I'm asking for an explanation for your emoji response, not for you to try to convince me. 

I say she wasn't reckless because she pulled away at low speed, and it should have been obvious to the agent that she may do so as she was behind the wheel of a car with it's engine running.

What's the explanation for her being reckless? Emojis, or I wasn't there, aren't a sensible response. 

As said, there is an absolutely no point. We clearly have different opinions and neither of us is gong to change the others mind. Spending the next hour analysing various angles of the available videos and arguing about the minutia is something I can’t be arsed to get into.

so lets just agree to disagree. 

[sadoldgit]

3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Us authorities having been shooting people dead for decades.

That’s ok then. Have they been putting poorly trained quasi military groups into their towns and cities for decades too or removing their own citizens from the country by armed thugs?

[egg]

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

As said, there is an absolutely no point. We clearly have different opinions and neither of us is gong to change the others mind. Spending the next hour analysing various angles of the available videos and arguing about the minutia is something I can’t be arsed to get into.

so lets just agree to disagree. 

No disrespect, but that's pretty pathetic. If you have an opinion, at least be willing to explain it. 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, sadoldgit said:

That’s ok then. Have they been putting poorly trained quasi military groups into their towns and cities for decades too or removing their own citizens from the country by armed thugs?

Pretty much. The national guard is a pretty big gig over there, and they have been deporting “illegal aliens” for god knows how long. 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, egg said:

No disrespect, but that's pretty pathetic. If you have an opinion, at least be willing to explain it. 

What is the point, you will never ever agree. I won’t change my mind, and I am watching Mr Beast in Amazon.

going through an hour long discussion is not something I can be arsed with. I think it was reckless, you don’t. None of it matters 

[sadoldgit]

13 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Nothing reckless? 👀😂

Yep, she recklessly reversed her car and turned the wheels hard to the right, accelerating slowly forward, avoiding direct contact with the agent,with her window wound down. That is a death penalty right there.

[sadoldgit]

5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Pretty much. The national guard is a pretty big gig over there, and they have been deporting “illegal aliens” for god knows how long. 

This isn’t the National Guard.

They are taking non illegal citizens off the streets and deporting them. How long has that been going on for?

[sadoldgit]

5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

What is the point, you will never ever agree. I won’t change my mind, and I am watching Mr Beast in Amazon.

going through an hour long discussion is not something I can be arsed with. I think it was reckless, you don’t. None of it matters 

If it doesn’t matter, why comment? You seem pretty happy and relaxed  with the abuse of power Brett. 

[sadoldgit]

4 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

"We're not going to have Russia or China as a neighbour"; Russia is 53 miles away from the nearest point of the United States, across the Bering Strait. That is one tenth of the distance from the most southerly point of Alaska to the the rest of the US. It is 1300 miles from Greenland to the US.

Russia is the third closest country to the US, after Canada and Mexico.

 

ALTERNATVE GEOGRAPHY !!!!!!!

 

It is just as well that they bought Alaska from Russia when they did.

[Baird of the land]

55 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

This isn’t the National Guard.

They are taking non illegal citizens off the streets and deporting them. How long has that been going on for?

It’s largely the opposite it’s undocumented people they are deporting.

[Wiggles31]

What a horrible country America is. Makes you grateful how much more civilised we are over here. We have our problems but Christ we are nothing like the divided mess over there. 
 

And that ICE agent acting like nazi SS. Just move out the way and deescalate. It’s so obvious she isn’t planning to run down people.  
 

 

[sadoldgit]

2 hours ago, Wiggles31 said:

What a horrible country America is. Makes you grateful how much more civilised we are over here. We have our problems but Christ we are nothing like the divided mess over there. 
 

And that ICE agent acting like nazi SS. Just move out the way and deescalate. It’s so obvious she isn’t planning to run down people.  
 

 

She smiled at the other ICE officer and said “I’m not mad at you dude” just before the other guy shot her. Just after he shot her you hear him say “fucking bitch.”

The information is right there yet some people are still defending her murder.

[Wiggles31]

It is genuinely baffling how video evidence can be presented right to people’s eyes, from multiple angles, yet they are so brainwashed they still scramble to defend their fat bloated fuhrer at all costs. 

[Gloucester Saint]

4 hours ago, Wiggles31 said:

What a horrible country America is. Makes you grateful how much more civilised we are over here. We have our problems but Christ we are nothing like the divided mess over there. 
 

And that ICE agent acting like nazi SS. Just move out the way and deescalate. It’s so obvious she isn’t planning to run down people.  
 

 

They have such a stunning and varied natural environment which they’ve destroyed through pure greed. Pumped their kids full of lead, plutonium, arsenic, cadmium, made their lakes sterile and rivers ignite, and they wonder why they end up with MAGA, serial killers, gun massacres etc. 

Edited Saturday at 18:42 by Gloucester Saint

[benjii]

What's this shit?

US is a hostile agitator for UK and Europe now. 

[egg]

1 hour ago, benjii said:

What's this shit?

US is a hostile agitator for UK and Europe now. 

Prick. Tariff increases if they don't do as they're told? 

[Sir Ralph]

5 hours ago, Wiggles31 said:

It is genuinely baffling how video evidence can be presented right to people’s eyes, from multiple angles, yet they are so brainwashed they still scramble to defend their fat bloated fuhrer at all costs. 

.

 

Edited Saturday at 23:22 by Sir Ralph

[Gloucester Saint]

Good job that Trump’s economic policies are working and getting those prices down…oh https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1dz0dz0zkvo 

[Gloucester Saint]

The Minnesota killing is really backfiring on Trump and Vance https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgpnwnqygro

[Weston Super Saint]

I suspect the next one won't just clip the ear  

[east-stand-nic]

On 10/01/2026 at 02:40, sadoldgit said:

1. This thread is specifically about Donald Trump not Joe Biden. The particular discussion was about what Trump had actually done. It had nothing to do with what Biden may or may not have done (and what we do know with 100% certainty is what he actually did not do whilst President). 
2. You have absolutely no idea what my opinion would have been if Biden, when he was POTUS, had done what Trump has done now.

3. It is extremely immature and myopic to accuse someone of only supporting the actions of people they “like” when they have a 20 year posting history with plenty of examples of criticising the actions of people they “like.”

4. You say that you see things “for what they really are.” Not only is that statement purely subjective, it is also made a lie by your support of many discredited conspiracy theories

5. Another immature statement. You have no idea if I would have supported Biden if he had done what Trump has done. You have just constructed another conspiracy in your head and posted it as a fact.

6. You absolutely are a Trump apologist. You have never criticised anything that he has done and let’s face it, he is open to a great deal of criticism. You are often the first one on here to defend his latest disastrous decision or action or throw the TDS deflection around.

7. For someone who does not support any of “them” you spend a lot of time either doing so on here or avoid criticism of “them” when they are open to it. 

8. When Islamic attacks occur I have called them out of extremist atrocities. How do you equate that with justification? A very simplistic and childish reaction. Let me make it easier for you to understand the difference between an apologist and someone pointing out an obvious disconnect. A certain poster on here spends a lot of time posting about brown skinned, Muslim rape gangs. You will not find any posts from him about white non Muslim rape gangs.Why one and not the other? Pointing this fact out does not excuse the actions of the former group of men. It highlights a very clear bias. I have asked the question many times (and of you). Is the rape or murder of a women more serious if carried out by a brown skinned Muslim worse and more noteworthy than if committed by a white, non- Muslim? I know you think that you have a greater intellect than the rest of us, but good luck with trying to explain how you confuse this with apologising for the criminal actions Muslims.

Once again I have handed you your arse served up on a silver platter. 🤗

1. This thread is specifically about Donald Trump not Joe Biden. The particular discussion was about what Trump had actually done. It had nothing to do with what Biden may or may not have done (and what we do know with 100% certainty is what he actually did not do whilst President). Irrelevant and wrong yet again. Biden made a tweet accusing Trump of doing nothing about Meduro, FACT. Trump did. So, was Biden right or wrong? Also, the mere fact Biden said what he did shows he would also have done similar to Trump. And for FACT, nailed on, you would have supported Biden if he had done so.

2. You have absolutely no idea what my opinion would have been if Biden, when he was POTUS, had done what Trump has done now. See above.

3. It is extremely immature and myopic to accuse someone of only supporting the actions of people they “like” when they have a 20 year posting history with plenty of examples of criticising the actions of people they “like.” This is comedy gold because this is you to a tee. You have proven time and time again you have double standards and are a full on racist hypocrite. Troy's cut welfare, they are bad who only care about the rich., Followed up a year or two later with, Obviously Labour have done their sums and knew they ad to cut the heating allowance for pensioners. So, clear double standards for all to see.

4. You say that you see things “for what they really are.” Not only is that statement purely subjective, it is also made a lie by your support of many discredited conspiracy theories. I do see things as they are and with zero bias, where as you have a total myopic bias as displayed above and in many of your posts.

5. Another immature statement. You have no idea if I would have supported Biden if he had done what Trump has done. You have just constructed another conspiracy in your head and posted it as a fact. Yes, I do know because as shown with the labour example above, you always support whatever your people do that you support/like and go against anyone you do not like no matter they do good or not. It is proven. You have no way out.

6. You absolutely are a Trump apologist. You have never criticised anything that he has done and let’s face it, he is open to a great deal of criticism. You are often the first one on here to defend his latest disastrous decision or action or throw the TDS deflection around. You absolutely are a Muslim apologist as shown countless times on here. I am not a trump apologist as I have called him out on here many times and stated countless times (that you choose to ignore for some off reason) that i support none of them. All I do is show you to be the hypocrite by exposing you each time you berate Trump of farage or any other you have a childish dislike for by showing you that you have supported others that you do like who did the same thing.

7. For someone who does not support any of “them” you spend a lot of time either doing so on here or avoid criticism of “them” when they are open to it. See above.

8. When Islamic attacks occur I have called them out of extremist atrocities. How do you equate that with justification? A very simplistic and childish reaction. No, you never have. I would guess that in at least 4 of the last attacks all you have done is berated those who went off on one about Islamic terrorism, and then justify their actions by saying whites do the same thing but more. Are you seriously trying to deny you ever say this?

Let me make it easier for you to understand the difference between an apologist and someone pointing out an obvious disconnect. A certain poster on here spends a lot of time posting about brown skinned, Muslim rape gangs. You will not find any posts from him about white non Muslim rape gangs.Why one and not the other? Pointing this fact out does not excuse the actions of the former group of men. It highlights a very clear bias. I have asked the question many times (and of you). Is the rape or murder of a women more serious if carried out by a brown skinned Muslim worse and more noteworthy than if committed by a white, non- Muslim? And I asked you (and you pretended not to see the question) if we were making our women safer or less safe but letting in all these unchecked immigrants? Can you now answer that?

I know you think that you have a greater intellect than the rest of us, but good luck with trying to explain how you confuse this with apologising for the criminal actions Muslims. No, there is no one on here calling them brown skinned, only you. People have had enough of Muslim attacks and rape gangs. Have you not?

Once again I have handed you your arse served up on a silver platter. 🤗

Nope, yet again you have made it so so easy for me to hang you out to dry.

[badgerx16]

"The criminal in the White House will not be able to stop you from going to jail".

Edited yesterday at 10:45 by badgerx16

[whelk]

 Oh fck me are we now in for a tiresome SOG Nic back and forth?

[Willo of Whiteley]

On 10/01/2026 at 12:28, egg said:

Point me to her recklessness please. 

Naive, misguided, perhaps, but she wasn't reckless. The agent who killed her when he wasn't a danger to her, was reckless. 

A video shows it all. In fact there's a couple circulating. He just shot her because he is ICE and because far-right loonies are protected by the far-right government.

[Willo of Whiteley]

2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

The Minnesota killing is really backfiring on Trump and Vance https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgpnwnqygro

True.

But if it deflects from him being in the Epstein Files then he'll drag it out.

It's the same with this coup of Venezuelan oil, the talk of wanting to take Greenland - they're all excellent distraction tactics.

Unfortunately, mainstream media won't point this out, and unfortunately a lot of Americans are just simply too ignorant/stupid to understand.

[egg]

6 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

True.

But if it deflects from him being in the Epstein Files then he'll drag it out.

It's the same with this coup of Venezuelan oil, the talk of wanting to take Greenland - they're all excellent distraction tactics.

Unfortunately, mainstream media won't point this out, and unfortunately a lot of Americans are just simply too ignorant/stupid to understand.

I'm not persuaded by distraction, although it's a cherry on top for Donny I suppose.

It's more complex than that. This is - Venezuela and next Iran - about controlling who does and doesn't get oil (China), who gets oil money and impacting on their stability, and - Venezuela, Greenland - imperialism.

[badgerx16]

50 minutes ago, egg said:

I'm not persuaded by distraction, although it's a cherry on top for Donny I suppose.

It's more complex than that. This is - Venezuela and next Iran - about controlling who does and doesn't get oil (China), who gets oil money and impacting on their stability, and - Venezuela, Greenland - imperialism.

Meanwhile, domestically his country is going to shit.

[egg]

Donny says Cuba must make a deal. 

Anyone got a clue what a deal is supposed to relate to? Oil? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2kv2gn62vo

[badgerx16]

13 minutes ago, egg said:

Donny says Cuba must make a deal. 

Anyone got a clue what a deal is supposed to relate to? Oil? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2kv2gn62vo

Marco Rubio as President ?

[Oldandtired]

If you get a chance watch the film Nuremberg the parallels between the rise of Hitler and the Nazi party, his ambitions for Germany and ideas for the rest of the world are scarily similar to Trump's methods in the US and his vision of his place in the world. 
 

don't we ever learn anything?

Edited 21 hours ago by Oldandtired

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, egg said:

Donny says Cuba must make a deal. 

Anyone got a clue what a deal is supposed to relate to? Oil? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2kv2gn62vo

"I am the biggliest heel. So, from now on Cuban heels will be known as Trump heels."

[whelk]

16 minutes ago, Oldandtired said:

If you get a chance watch the film Nuremberg the parallels between the rise of Hitler and the Nazi party, his ambitions for Germany and ideas for the rest of the world are scarily similar to Trump's methods in the US and his vision of his place in the world. 
 

don't we ever learn anything?

“The only clue to what man can do is what man has done”

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

I'm wondering once DT goes will Vance or someone else be able to deflect as much as he does? 

Will the maga lot simply carry on being simps for someone else or lose interest?

[badgerx16]

There is a degree of irony in Trump threatening Iran over the possibility that protesters might be shot in Tehran.

Edited 19 hours ago by badgerx16

[sadoldgit]

3 hours ago, Oldandtired said:

If you get a chance watch the film Nuremberg the parallels between the rise of Hitler and the Nazi party, his ambitions for Germany and ideas for the rest of the world are scarily similar to Trump's methods in the US and his vision of his place in the world. 
 

don't we ever learn anything?

Clearly we do not.

Socrates and Plato also talked about how tyranny can come from democracy via the use of “populism” which Trump has done so well so far. 
We look on in horror (well, most of us do) at what Trump is doing in the US, but we are currently heading in the same direction. The rise of Reform in the polls and the rise in airtime given to populists is equally horrifying. Not only because of the growing support, but how the old established parties are reacting to the threat and dancing to Farage’s tune. Throw in general disillusionment with mainstream politics and politicians and it is a recipe for disaster.

Farage screwed over the country ten years ago and a large number of people either have short memories or never learn their lesson.

 

[badgerx16]

3 hours ago, Oldandtired said:

If you get a chance watch the film Nuremberg the parallels between the rise of Hitler and the Nazi party, his ambitions for Germany and ideas for the rest of the world are scarily similar to Trump's methods in the US and his vision of his place in the world. 
 

don't we ever learn anything?

When Stephen Miller worked for Steve Bannon he was known as Goebbels.

[rallyboy]

5 hours ago, Oldandtired said:

 

don't we ever learn anything?

Some do, but many clearly haven't.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

When Stephen Miller worked for Steve Bannon he was known as Goebbels.

Very racist and bigoted individual - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hatemonger-Stephen-Miller-Donald-Nationalist/dp/0062986716

[Sir Ralph]

Trumps actions in Venezuela deposed the leader of a regime who helped to destroy the country. He also supported Iran, China and Russia as enemies of the western world. So probably not a bad move to control what is the largest producer of oil and stop it being controlled by our enemies.

The protests in Iran and destabilisation of that country are positive for the people living in that country and for western interests. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that is happening now, all around the same time as Venezuela. Trump threatening Iran if it kills protesters is the right thing to do and they know he won’t hesitate because of his attack on their nuclear capabilities last year. 
 

Cuba is supported economically by Venezuela so Trump is essentially saying they won’t get economic support anymore and they need to play ball and stop working with Russia and China.

There is a clear strategy that Trump is targeting the countries that support Russia and China and weakening their position in the world by doing so. 

In terms of Greenland, Russia and China has shown interest in controlling it over recent years which would be a significant security concern for Europe and the US, particularly with the expansion of the military of those two countries and even the UKs top army officials saying we may have to prepare for war with Russia after 2030. Trump is using this rhetoric to get dozy European leaders to get up off their butts and think about better protecting it to minimise the Russia / China risk. Vance said so himself. I would say it’s highly unlikely Trump is going to invade Greenland but he is using forceful language to make people sit up ans pay attention and do something about it. 
 

I think what Trump is doing is actually trying to strategically better position the west and is having to drag western leaders who have been resting on their laurels over China and Russia for the past 20 years. As the US administration has said, Europe has been too reliant on the US militarily and needs to start getting serious about the risks we face. My personal view is that I’m glad someone is banging the drum on this before it’s too late. Trump knows that the US needs Europe as an ally against the Chinese and Russians but needs it to sort itself out. Vance’s speech in Munich also said this.
 

It’s very easy to throw out 2 sentence statements saying he’s clueless but it’s a bit more complex than that. His moves to shore up western interests against Russia and Chinese risks are certainly more assertive than any other western leaders in the last 20 years and, so far, without going to war. Trump is quite calculated but gives the impression of being more unpredictable which is intentional when dealing in negotiations with people, particularly nut job regimes and soft western leaders.
 

For those that think we shouldn’t be dealing with the China / Russia issue firmly I think that attitude is why we have the problem we do now. And in case people hadn’t realised sanctions don’t work particularly when the network of the “baddies” has been allowed to increase unchecked

Edited 11 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

Not gonna lie. I put Sir Rs latest post in chatgtp to summarise and it said the following:

The argument presents Trump’s foreign policy as a coherent, calculated grand strategy, but that coherence is largely constructed after the fact rather than demonstrated by evidence. Many of the claims rely on assumption, selective interpretation, and rhetorical framing rather than verifiable outcomes or consistency.

 

[Farmer Saint]

31 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

Not gonna lie. I put Sir Rs latest post in chatgtp to summarise and it said the following:

The argument presents Trump’s foreign policy as a coherent, calculated grand strategy, but that coherence is largely constructed after the fact rather than demonstrated by evidence. Many of the claims rely on assumption, selective interpretation, and rhetorical framing rather than verifiable outcomes or consistency.

 

NGL, I got bored a paragraph in and stopped reading.

[Weston Super Saint]

6 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

 

There is a clear strategy that Trump is targeting the countries that support Russia and China and weakening their position in the world by doing so. 

 

Countries like India?

[egg]

16 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Countries like India?

The bit you quoted from Ralph is correct though, and pretty much the core of this strategy. China can no longer get it's hands on cheap Venezuelan oil, and soon Iranian. India are similarly impacted. Major manufacturing countries not getting cheap oil, and countries in need of cash not being able to sell their oil, weakens all of them countries. It's a crude (no pun intended) strategy, but it's working.