whelk Posted October 9 Posted October 9 1 hour ago, sadoldgit said: Most normal people accept that immigration is a good thing. No, most people realise it is far too high and putting massive strain on services and our infrastructure. 2
Turkish Posted October 9 Author Posted October 9 1 minute ago, whelk said: No, most people realise it is far too high and putting massive strain on services and our infrastructure. Most normal people dont lie about where they live to prove a point on an internet forum. Or about their jobs. Or about people they know. 😂
iansums Posted October 9 Posted October 9 My Mum or Dad (can’t remember which) had Brixton as their place of birth, always made me smile
hypochondriac Posted October 9 Posted October 9 4 hours ago, whelk said: No, most people realise it is far too high and putting massive strain on services and our infrastructure. 100%. Controlled immigration is obviously a good thing.
Turkish Posted October 9 Author Posted October 9 (edited) 21 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: 100%. Controlled immigration is obviously a good thing. it seems immigration has not hit Romney Marsh yet, despite SOG now pretending he lives in Ashford so he can appear more at one with immigrants. Edited October 9 by Turkish 2
sadoldgit Posted October 21 Posted October 21 At the last election our constituency boundary had changed which is a shame as our old constituency wisely kicked out the sitting Tory. We now come under the Weald of Kent which is even more home to the blue rinse brigade and unwisely elected a little known Tory called Katie Lam. Not much had been heard of this would be Thatcher look until the weekend when she gave an interview to the Sunday Times which was designed to give the most ardent Faragists a stiffy. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/oct/20/tory-mp-criticised-after-demanding-legally-settled-families-be-deported She is being touted as the next Tory party leader. Sounds like she would be much more at home with Reform. It seems like anyone wanting to make themselves popular/noticed nowadays need to make themselves sound even further right than Enoch Powell. 2
Lord Duckhunter Posted October 21 Posted October 21 Oh god, he’s got another name to shoe horn into every topic 😩 1
Turkish Posted October 21 Author Posted October 21 25 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Oh god, he’s got another name to shoe horn into every topic 😩 Probably had brunch with someone who nears her and confirms what a truly awful person they are.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted October 21 Posted October 21 4 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Oh god, he’s got another name to shoe horn into every topic 😩 I trust Katie Lam coverage isn't going to interfere with Katie Hopkins coverage. I rely on SOG's obsessions to remind me who these people are.
Lord Duckhunter Posted October 21 Posted October 21 😂😂😂😂 Now there’s a coincidence, wonder where Soggy got his new kink from 🤔
Gloucester Saint Posted October 21 Posted October 21 They’re brainless comments though - key services would fall apart instantly and it’d break up families. They need to get someone like Andy Street into a seat as soon as they can, expel what’s left of the ERG to Reform and start again as a pro business centre right party. If people want hard right populist nationalism they’ll vote for the full fat version which isn’t the Tories. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/katie-lam-tory-mp-deport-migrants-b2849073.html
sadoldgit Posted Tuesday at 23:23 Posted Tuesday at 23:23 GB News racist? Surely not! https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/nov/18/ofcom-complaints-gb-news-defendants-foreign-sounding-names 1
badgerx16 Posted Wednesday at 12:04 Posted Wednesday at 12:04 (edited) 12 hours ago, sadoldgit said: GB News racist? Surely not! https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/nov/18/ofcom-complaints-gb-news-defendants-foreign-sounding-names I wonder if there was a Le Tissier, Le Saux, or Le Mesurier anywhere on those lists. Edited Wednesday at 12:04 by badgerx16
sadoldgit Posted Wednesday at 20:07 Posted Wednesday at 20:07 Things that are racist - Nigel Farage as a kid. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/nov/19/nigel-farage-allegations-racist-behaviour-school Apologies for posting the same link on two threads but it deserves the exposure on both of them. 1
Turkish Posted Wednesday at 21:07 Author Posted Wednesday at 21:07 59 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Things that are racist - Nigel Farage as a kid. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/nov/19/nigel-farage-allegations-racist-behaviour-school Apologies for posting the same link on two threads but it deserves the exposure on both of them. To show how he is living in your head in the room next to me?
hypochondriac Posted yesterday at 15:58 Posted yesterday at 15:58 Thinking that Bellingham is a bit arrogant, not much of a team player and whilst incredibly talented acts like a dick at times is racist apparently according to Ian Wright. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/ckgkg1d49v7o FFS it seems like so many black people in the media are at it recently. Lenny Henry is another one. Is it possible to criticise Bellingham for having a poor attitude without it being because he's black? Rooney got both barrels when he had a go at fans down the camera for how he acted. 3
whelk Posted yesterday at 16:13 Posted yesterday at 16:13 13 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Thinking that Bellingham is a bit arrogant, not much of a team player and whilst incredibly talented acts like a dick at times is racist apparently according to Ian Wright. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/ckgkg1d49v7o FFS it seems like so many black people in the media are at it recently. Lenny Henry is another one. Is it possible to criticise Bellingham for having a poor attitude without it being because he's black? Rooney got both barrels when he had a go at fans down the camera for how he acted. I wonder why the same shit isn’t aimed at Saka who seems very likeable and down to earth? Beckham can vouch for how being white saved him from any abuse after the Simeone foul. 2
Turkish Posted yesterday at 16:21 Author Posted yesterday at 16:21 17 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Thinking that Bellingham is a bit arrogant, not much of a team player and whilst incredibly talented acts like a dick at times is racist apparently according to Ian Wright. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/ckgkg1d49v7o FFS it seems like so many black people in the media are at it recently. Lenny Henry is another one. Is it possible to criticise Bellingham for having a poor attitude without it being because he's black? Rooney got both barrels when he had a go at fans down the camera for how he acted. the problem with Bellingham is that not only does he come across as quite arrogant, he has only played a few games in England. He went to Germany and now Madrid which whilst it's done his career good he doesn't have fans of English clubs behind him or their fan boys in the media. If he'd played for Man U, Livepool, Chelsea, Arsenal we were watching him every week on TV, seeing his interviews etc you feel like you know them a bit better have a better relationship with fans, media etc plus fans of that club he's their player. When you only see once every few months and he behaves a bit petulantly like that it's a lot easier to be critical, IMO. 3
hypochondriac Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 12 hours ago, whelk said: I wonder why the same shit isn’t aimed at Saka who seems very likeable and down to earth? Beckham can vouch for how being white saved him from any abuse after the Simeone foul. Good point. White footballers are famously loved universally and never criticised
Weston Super Saint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Do they know it's Christmas (song). Especially the line : "Well tonight thank God it's them instead of you". Not especially charitable and I'm assuming it's "them" in the same way that Soggy refers to "them". 1
egg Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 15 hours ago, Turkish said: the problem with Bellingham is that not only does he come across as quite arrogant, he has only played a few games in England. He went to Germany and now Madrid which whilst it's done his career good he doesn't have fans of English clubs behind him or their fan boys in the media. If he'd played for Man U, Livepool, Chelsea, Arsenal we were watching him every week on TV, seeing his interviews etc you feel like you know them a bit better have a better relationship with fans, media etc plus fans of that club he's their player. When you only see once every few months and he behaves a bit petulantly like that it's a lot easier to be critical, IMO. Yep. I've usually got a lot of time for Ian Wright, but there's nothing to suggest that Bellingham gets grief because he's black. He gets grief because he can come across as a bit of a billy big bollox. Edited 11 hours ago by egg 2
Turkish Posted 11 hours ago Author Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, egg said: Yep. I've usually got a lot of time for Ian Wright, but there's nothing to suggest that Bellingham gets grief because he's black. He gets grief because he can come across as a bit of a billy big bollox. Yep. To say people aren’t ready for a black superstar. What about Mo Farrah? Frank Bruno was one of the most popular British sportsman ever to name two. There are plenty of other black sportspeople who are very popular as well. I’m afraid it’s another example of using race as a kop out. Edited 10 hours ago by Turkish 1
benjii Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Turkish said: Yep. To say people aren’t ready for a black superstar. What about Mo Farrah? Frank Bruno was one of the most popular British sportsman ever to name two. There are plenty of other black sportsmen who are very popular as well. I’m afraid it’s another example of using race as a kop out. Yeah, plus Diddy, Cosby, OJ Simpson... 2
hypochondriac Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Turkish said: Yep. To say people aren’t ready for a black superstar. What about Mo Farrah? Frank Bruno was one of the most popular British sportsman ever to name two. There are plenty of other black sportsmen who are very popular as well. I’m afraid it’s another example of using race as a kop out. Daley Thompson is one for me. 3
Turkish Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Daley Thompson is one for me. Colin Jackson, Linford Christie, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Jess Ennis, it really isn't hard to think of loads
hypochondriac Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Turkish said: Colin Jackson, Linford Christie, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Jess Ennis, it really isn't hard to think of loads Fatima whitbread, Kelly Holmes, Christine ohurogu, even someone like Nicolas Adams. None of them were criticised due to their skin colour.
AlexLaw76 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) Joshua was a sporting poster boy for many years. Edited 9 hours ago by AlexLaw76
egg Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Turkish said: Colin Jackson, Linford Christie, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Jess Ennis, it really isn't hard to think of loads John Barnes to an extent. Denise Lewis. Kelly Holmes. Successful black sports people that aren't as popular as they would like to be have personalities that can grate - ie Anthony Joshua, Lewis Hamilton, Bellingham. Colour isn't the problem, they are. 1
Turkish Posted 8 hours ago Author Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, egg said: John Barnes to an extent. Denise Lewis. Kelly Holmes. Successful black sports people that aren't as popular as they would like to be have personalities that can grate - ie Anthony Joshua, Lewis Hamilton, Bellingham. Colour isn't the problem, they are. Anthony Joshua is a good example. When he first shot to fame he was the poster boy for British boxing, most people loved him and he got hugely hyped up. After a while it became pretty apparent he was not as good as everyone made out and a bit of a knob, so his popularity took a dip. As you say, colour isn't the problem, it was him. Edited 8 hours ago by Turkish 1
pingpong Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago People using John Barnes and Saka as examples of popular role models is crazy, when the level of racist abuse they both got was insanely high every time they made the smallest mistake. Beckham got hate for being a prick on the pitch and getting sent off when we needed him, saka got hate because he didn't score a penalty, there IS a difference in standards when judging players. I don't say it because I know people on here would melt over it, but I definitely noticed a difference in treatment of blond, blue eyed Ramsdale when he arrived (and immediately conceded a couple of dodgy goals), and the treatment that calamity McCarthy receives, someone who literally jumps out of the way of the ball on his goal line, compared to a certain young prospect who plays in goal for us (and who has zero attitude problems). 1
egg Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 8 minutes ago, pingpong said: People using John Barnes and Saka as examples of popular role models is crazy, when the level of racist abuse they both got was insanely high every time they made the smallest mistake. Beckham got hate for being a prick on the pitch and getting sent off when we needed him, saka got hate because he didn't score a penalty, there IS a difference in standards when judging players. I don't say it because I know people on here would melt over it, but I definitely noticed a difference in treatment of blond, blue eyed Ramsdale when he arrived (and immediately conceded a couple of dodgy goals), and the treatment that calamity McCarthy receives, someone who literally jumps out of the way of the ball on his goal line, compared to a certain young prospect who plays in goal for us (and who has zero attitude problems). That's a mixed bag. You miss the fact that Barnes got so much praise and adulation in an era when black people often didn't. Sure, there were neanderthals then, but that doesn't alter that he was incredibly popular, not least after that goal. I don't see you Beckham/Saka point. Both made mistakes and got grief. Yes, neanderthals came into the Saka grief, but fundamentally both got grief for similar reasons, not because of colour. Southgate and Pearce got slaughtered in their day, and they ain't black. Your last paragraph is just daft. The insinuation that Bazunu gets grief because of his colour is insulting and a very poor point. 3
Turkish Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago 7 minutes ago, egg said: That's a mixed bag. You miss the fact that Barnes got so much praise and adulation in an era when black people often didn't. Sure, there were neanderthals then, but that doesn't alter that he was incredibly popular, not least after that goal. I don't see you Beckham/Saka point. Both made mistakes and got grief. Yes, neanderthals came into the Saka grief, but fundamentally both got grief for similar reasons, not because of colour. Southgate and Pearce got slaughtered in their day, and they ain't black. Your last paragraph is just daft. The insinuation that Bazunu gets grief because of his colour is insulting and a very poor point. A ridiculous point, but clearly a wind up.
egg Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Turkish said: A ridiculous point, but clearly a wind up. Yep, and you'd hope so, but you never know in 2025.
whelk Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 46 minutes ago, pingpong said: saka got hate because he didn't score a penalty He didn’t, he largely got sympathy apart from some racist pricks on social media just after, not systemic abuse because white people’s prejudice. Edited 7 hours ago by whelk 2
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, pingpong said: People using John Barnes and Saka as examples of popular role models is crazy, when the level of racist abuse they both got was insanely high every time they made the smallest mistake. Beckham got hate for being a prick on the pitch and getting sent off when we needed him, saka got hate because he didn't score a penalty, there IS a difference in standards when judging players. I don't say it because I know people on here would melt over it, but I definitely noticed a difference in treatment of blond, blue eyed Ramsdale when he arrived (and immediately conceded a couple of dodgy goals), and the treatment that calamity McCarthy receives, someone who literally jumps out of the way of the ball on his goal line, compared to a certain young prospect who plays in goal for us (and who has zero attitude problems). There's no link between ethnicity and intangibility. Baz gets criticism for the shots that go through him. I'd love him to do well here. I'd love all of our players to do well here. In the last few seasons I'm now happy for any of them to do well here. 🙂
Turkish Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 6 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: Do they know it's Christmas (song). Especially the line : "Well tonight thank God it's them instead of you". Not especially charitable and I'm assuming it's "them" in the same way that Soggy refers to "them". not to mention the factual incorrectness of the song And there won't be snow in Africa this Christmas time Kilimanjaro is snow capped all year round Where nothing ever grows Africa lowland Bamboo is one of the fastest growing plant in the world No rain nor rivers flow Ever heard of the Nile, Congo or Zambezi? Typical poorly informed, woke, middle class do-gooders do as i say not as i do Edited 5 hours ago by Turkish
badgerx16 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 18 minutes ago, Turkish said: not to mention the factual incorrectness of the song And there won't be snow in Africa this Christmas time Kilimanjaro is snow capped all year round Where nothing ever grows Africa lowland Bamboo is one of the fastest growing plant in the world No rain nor rivers flow Ever heard of the Nile, Congo or Zambezi? Typical poorly informed, woke, middle class do-gooders do as i say not as i do "Do they know it's Christmas ?" All the African Christians do, including those in Ethiopia. Edited 5 hours ago by badgerx16 1
badgerx16 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, Turkish said: Kilimanjaro is snow capped all year round But it does not "rise like Olympus above the Serengeti". 1
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