CollinsDic Posted 12 May, 2021 Share Posted 12 May, 2021 3 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: I was with you until the bit about JFK. So, you believe he was shot by one gunman, from one single direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 May, 2021 Share Posted 12 May, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, CollinsDic said: So, you believe he was shot by one gunman, from one single direction? Sure. There's no reason why he wasn't, and I have seen many analyses of this incident. That doesn't mean to say that he was acting alone or that he wasn't put up to it. Edited 12 May, 2021 by Whitey Grandad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 12 May, 2021 Share Posted 12 May, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, CollinsDic said: So, you believe he was shot by one gunman, from one single direction? Yes. Hitting a target twice from three shots when only 50-80m away with a military issue rifle equipped with a telescopic sight is not a big deal. The weird thing is why you would think there were two shooters - much harder to co-ordinate and cover-up Edited 12 May, 2021 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 12 May, 2021 Share Posted 12 May, 2021 8 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: I was with you until the bit about JFK. Are you going senile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 May, 2021 Share Posted 12 May, 2021 3 hours ago, whelk said: Are you going senile? Not at the moment. I’ve been to Egypt four times and I don’t plan on going again any time soon. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollinsDic Posted 13 May, 2021 Author Share Posted 13 May, 2021 19 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: Sure. There's no reason why he wasn't, and I have seen many analyses of this incident. That doesn't mean to say that he was acting alone or that he wasn't put up to it. So, you missed the bit where he was hit by bullets coming from different directions/points of origin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 30 minutes ago, CollinsDic said: So, you missed the bit where he was hit by bullets coming from different directions/points of origin? No he wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, CollinsDic said: So, you missed the bit where he was hit by bullets coming from different directions/points of origin? Doh. Bullets change trajectory just from passing through human flesh, let alone hitting bone or car seat frames. Conspiracists rarely talk about General Walker who Oswald tried to assassinate for being an anti communist right winger only the week before shooting Kennedy. The only position which linked Walker and JFK was a hard line on Cuba and Oswald was part of a pro Castro and Cuba group. The reason conspiros never mention Walker is because it undermines most of the whacko theories. Oswald most likely acted alone but if it were an organised assassination Cuba was probably behind it. 50 years of hardline sanctions probably answers that question. Edited 13 May, 2021 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 My money has always been on Frank Sinatra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 2 hours ago, CollinsDic said: So, you missed the bit where he was hit by bullets coming from different directions/points of origin? What evidence do you have for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 3 hours ago, CollinsDic said: So, you missed the bit where he was hit by bullets coming from different directions/points of origin? No he wasn't. There were probably three shots two of which struck the President. One missed altogether and I have seen an analysis that seems to show that the car went out of view behind a traffic sign at the probable time of this shot. The sign was replaced and scrapped not long after but there is some photographic eveidence that suggests there was a small hole in it at about the place you would expect. The first shot to hit him went through his neck and hit Governor Connally in the chest, wrist and thigh and was later found on the hospital gurney. The second fatal shot hit him in the back of the head and the exit wound exploded his brains out in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 2 hours ago, buctootim said: Doh. Bullets change trajectory just from passing through human flesh, let alone hitting bone or car seat frames. Conspiracists rarely talk about General Walker who Oswald tried to assassinate for being an anti communist right winger only the week before shooting Kennedy. The only position which linked Walker and JFK was a hard line on Cuba and Oswald was part of a pro Castro and Cuba group. The reason conspiros never mention Walker is because it undermines most of the whacko theories. Oswald most likely acted alone but if it were an organised assassination Cuba was probably behind it. 50 years of hardline sanctions probably answers that question. The truth is always more ordinary. If that is true I will retire my Che Guevara t-shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollinsDic Posted 13 May, 2021 Author Share Posted 13 May, 2021 19 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: No he wasn't. There were probably three shots two of which struck the President. One missed altogether and I have seen an analysis that seems to show that the car went out of view behind a traffic sign at the probable time of this shot. The sign was replaced and scrapped not long after but there is some photographic eveidence that suggests there was a small hole in it at about the place you would expect. The first shot to hit him went through his neck and hit Governor Connally in the chest, wrist and thigh and was later found on the hospital gurney. The second fatal shot hit him in the back of the head and the exit wound exploded his brains out in front of him. I would suggest you watch the footage again and read other reports which clearly prove one shot hit him from behind, and another from slightly to the side. No way from the same point of origin. But hey ho, you are clearly ensconced in the goggle box and MSM and there is thus no hope for you. The weapons of mass destruction were also true a was the suez crisis (The PM did not lie) and 2001 Twin towers. Governments never lie. Silly me. Enjoy your life sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 4 minutes ago, CollinsDic said: I would suggest you watch the footage again and read other reports which clearly prove one shot hit him from behind, and another from slightly to the side. No way from the same point of origin. Nope, another erm, inaccuracy. Both bullets hit him from almost directly behind and above. That is shown by the autopsy photographs. Your claim is backed by nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 7 minutes ago, CollinsDic said: I would suggest you watch the footage again and read other reports which clearly prove one shot hit him from behind, and another from slightly to the side. No way from the same point of origin. But hey ho, you are clearly ensconced in the goggle box and MSM and there is thus no hope for you. The weapons of mass destruction were also true a was the suez crisis (The PM did not lie) and 2001 Twin towers. Governments never lie. Silly me. Enjoy your life sir. What are the conspiracies behind these three events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 10 minutes ago, CollinsDic said: I would suggest you watch the footage again and read other reports which clearly prove one shot hit him from behind, and another from slightly to the side. No way from the same point of origin. But hey ho, you are clearly ensconced in the goggle box and MSM and there is thus no hope for you. The weapons of mass destruction were also true a was the suez crisis (The PM did not lie) and 2001 Twin towers. Governments never lie. Silly me. Enjoy your life sir. I have probably seen and heard all the evidence more times than you have. Both bullets hit him from behind and on the same trajectory. I don't see what the other subjects you have raised have to do with this assassination. But there really was a Suez crisis and the Twin Towers really did collapse. Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem. - Occam's razor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 5 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: I have probably seen and heard all the evidence more times than you have. Both bullets hit him from behind and on the same trajectory. I don't see what the other subjects you have raised have to do with this assassination. But there really was a Suez crisis and the Twin Towers really did collapse. Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem. - Occam's razor. Inside job that wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 Who shot JFK? I always thought it was the Roswell Alien, aided and abetted by the KKK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 4 hours ago, CollinsDic said: I would suggest you watch the footage again and read other reports which clearly prove one shot hit him from behind, and another from slightly to the side. No way from the same point of origin. But hey ho, you are clearly ensconced in the goggle box and MSM and there is thus no hope for you. The weapons of mass destruction were also true a was the suez crisis (The PM did not lie) and 2001 Twin towers. Governments never lie. Silly me. Enjoy your life sir. Are the twin towers still there? This is like having Sarnia Saint back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behind Enemy Lines Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 What about the moon landings? 👩🚀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 And crop circles. Where I am, the aliens roll the straw into huge round balls and cover them in black plastic. Your guess is as good as mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, CollinsDic said: I would suggest you watch the footage again and read other reports which clearly prove one shot hit him from behind, and another from slightly to the side. No way from the same point of origin. But hey ho, you are clearly ensconced in the goggle box and MSM and there is thus no hope for you. The weapons of mass destruction were also true a was the suez crisis (The PM did not lie) and 2001 Twin towers. Governments never lie. Silly me. Enjoy your life sir. 1) Can you explain how the footage shows what you claim it does? 2) Have you been watching the fictional nonsense Oliver Stone film? 3) What are you claiming about 9/11 and what evidence do you have to support the claim? Edited 13 May, 2021 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 On 12/05/2021 at 14:47, buctootim said: Yes. Hitting a target twice from three shots when only 50-80m away with a military issue rifle equipped with a telescopic sight is not a big deal. The weird thing is why you would think there were two shooters - much harder to co-ordinate and cover-up Yeah but who was the single shooter? I'm going for Badge Man off of the grassy knoll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 2 minutes ago, stknowle said: Yeah but who was the single shooter? I'm going for Badge Man off of the grassy knoll. JFK shot himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 (edited) Assassinating yourself using time travel... now that is the ultimate conspiracy! Edited 13 May, 2021 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 Didn't it all get cleared up and it turned out to be some clumsy FBI/CIA goon in the car following the president? Oswald fired and missed, FBI/CIA goon picked up gun in order to retaliate (had to stoop down to retrieve from under seat in front) then accidentally pulled the trigger and delivered the bullets straight into JFK. The wound entry angles prove it or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 3 minutes ago, stknowle said: Didn't it all get cleared up and it turned out to be some clumsy FBI/CIA goon in the car following the president? Oswald fired and missed, FBI/CIA goon picked up gun in order to retaliate (had to stoop down to retrieve from under seat in front) then accidentally pulled the trigger and delivered the bullets straight into JFK. The wound entry angles prove it or something. No, none of that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 Does anyone know if the nazis in WW2 were real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 Just now, Matthew Le God said: No, none of that happened. Well someone's lying then Matthew because I saw a whole documentary promoting this laughable theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 5 minutes ago, whelk said: Does anyone know if the nazis in WW2 were real? There were TWO worlds wars? 🤯 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, buctootim said: There were TWO worlds wars? 🤯 If you include the 7 years war, which was indeed a globally spread conflict, there have been 3. After all, the 14-18 war, ( or 17-18 if you are American ), was commonly named the Great War at the time. Edited 13 May, 2021 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 11 minutes ago, buctootim said: There were TWO worlds wars? 🤯 The war of 1756 to 1763 was a global war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: The war of 1756 to 1763 was a global war. Beat you to it, ha !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 Just now, badgerx16 said: Beat you to it, ha !!!!! Yep both whooshed 🤯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 4 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Beat you to it, ha !!!!! I gave dates 🤗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 7 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I gave dates 🤗 I gave the name, easier thing for folks to GOOGLE - yah boo sucks to you ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 There was an American comedian who used to say, ”Everybody says they know where they were when Kennedy got shot. I know where I was. I was hanging out of a window in a book depository with a rifle in my hand.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 6 hours ago, CollinsDic said: I would suggest you watch the footage again and read other reports which clearly prove one shot hit him from behind, and another from slightly to the side. No way from the same point of origin. But hey ho, you are clearly ensconced in the goggle box and MSM and there is thus no hope for you. The weapons of mass destruction were also true a was the suez crisis (The PM did not lie) and 2001 Twin towers. Governments never lie. Silly me. Enjoy your life sir. Sounds like you've watched from jfk to 911. An interesting 3 hours, but ultimately full of unsubstantiated stuff for me. I'm with you on the weapons of mass destruction, but can't see where you're coming from on suez or teh towers. What are your theory on the twin (or rather, the three) towers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 According to the Daily Mail it was Meghan Markle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, egg said: Sounds like you've watched from jfk to 911. An interesting 3 hours, but ultimately full of unsubstantiated stuff for me. I'm with you on the weapons of mass destruction, but can't see where you're coming from on suez or teh towers. What are your theory on the twin (or rather, the three) towers? WoMD was it a conspiracy. To be generous, the government were misled by exiled opposition leaders and internal aggressors, or to be harsh it was just a pretext for war. It was probably somewhere in the middle. Edited 13 May, 2021 by Fan The Flames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 1 minute ago, Fan The Flames said: WoMD wasn't a conspiracy. To be generous, the government were misled by exiled opposition leaders and internal aggressors, or to be harsh it was just a pretext for war. It was probably somewhere in the middle. I haven’t said it was, and to be fair to Collinsdic, nor did he. Our government didn’t tell us the truth is the point being made on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 2 minutes ago, egg said: I haven’t said it was, and to be fair to Collinsdic, nor did he. Our government didn’t tell us the truth is the point being made on that one. I did edit my post, to pose it as a question. I guess in the true sense of the word it was a conspiracy, as a group of people got together to deceive the US and UK governments. But not a conspiracy theory. You could even argue that the governments didn't lie as they were deceived. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fan The Flames said: I did edit my post, to pose it as a question. I guess in the true sense of the word it was a conspiracy, as a group of people got together to deceive the US and UK governments. But not a conspiracy theory. You could even argue that the governments didn't lie as they were deceived. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 Just now, egg said: Who? They were being lobbied by Iraqi exile opposition who exaggerated the threat of WoMD and US military/intelligence hawks who want to stop Saddam getting nuclear weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollinsDic Posted 14 May, 2021 Author Share Posted 14 May, 2021 Of course this is all normal https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-53736087 https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-57046811 Yet footballers can hug when all sweaty, and no issues at all. LOL. I fear for humanity that you all take this all so seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 39 minutes ago, CollinsDic said: Of course this is all normal https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-53736087 https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-57046811 Yet footballers can hug when all sweaty, and no issues at all. LOL. I fear for humanity that you all take this all so seriously. Have you considered the vague possibility that only a small minority like you take it seriously and most people just dismiss it as clickbait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 1 hour ago, CollinsDic said: Of course this is all normal https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-53736087 https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-57046811 Yet footballers can hug when all sweaty, and no issues at all. LOL. I fear for humanity that you all take this all so seriously. Er... actually we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 2 hours ago, CollinsDic said: I fear for humanity that you all take this all so seriously. I fear for humanity if you and Scally are the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 2 hours ago, CollinsDic said: Of course this is all normal https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-53736087 https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-57046811 Yet footballers can hug when all sweaty, and no issues at all. LOL. I fear for humanity that you all take this all so seriously. Can’t take this fucker seriously if he gets his news from the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollinsDic Posted 15 May, 2021 Author Share Posted 15 May, 2021 18 hours ago, buctootim said: Have you considered the vague possibility that only a small minority like you take it seriously and most people just dismiss it as clickbait? Are you saying the BBC are not a credible news services then, and that they use clickbait tactics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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