lordswoodsaints Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 i have had a snippet of info from my source in the media that crouch has struck a deal with the other 2 (lowe and wilde) and is coming back in some capacity bringing with him some money believed to be £5mil?? it is unclear where the money has come from or what it is to be spent on (players,debts,overdraft?) my source thinks this will be revealed early this week. the info is a bit patchy but it does sort of tie in with what others have said on here..... im not sure about this one myself but we will have to wait and see i suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 If this is true lets hope he's coming with enough to buy the other two ****wits out for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 i have had a snippet of info from my source in the media that crouch has struck a deal with the other 2 (lowe and wilde) and is coming back in some capacity bringing with him some money believed to be £5mil?? it is unclear where the money has come from or what it is to be spent on (players,debts,overdraft?) my source thinks this will be revealed early this week. the info is a bit patchy but it does sort of tie in with what others have said on here..... im not sure about this one myself but we will have to wait and see i suppose Another Friday story ??? More tyrekickers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Well if it happens lets hope there is a condition attached - no more Lowe, Wilde, Jones et al. Otherwise its pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 I know the offer has been there for some time, but I understand it came with pre-conditions, one of which was the removal of Poortvliet, but I just don't think Crouch would be happy to put money in whilst Lowe is in charge on a day to day basis and whilst we persevere with this ridiculous experiment under Wotte. For Crouch to come back, I think Lowe would have to step down from his CEO/Chairman position, something I don't think Lowe would do voluntarily. So unless cracks are starting to appear in Lowe's support (and that includes Wilde saying enough is enough), then I am doubtful. Unless of course an injection of money came as a part of a "share placing", then that might be different, as that may well upset the balance of power and allow those coming to have a much bigger say in decisions. However, overall I feel doubtful that this could happen, but that's not to say that I wouldn't appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Another Friday story ???More tyrekickers Today is Sunday ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Well if it happens lets hope there is a condition attached - no more Lowe, Wilde, Jones et al. Otherwise its pointless. If it saves the club it is not pointless Getting rid of Lowe and Wilde is pointless unless it saves us from administration and relegation. Unless your agenda is get rid of them both and sod the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Today is Sunday ?? That's Monday in Kuwait though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 I can't see that Crouch would be prepared to put any more of his money into the club unless it was on the basis that Wilde and Lowe had no place on the board. Why would he prop up a regime he detests? And John B, getting rid of Lowe and Wilde is not pointless provided that what replaces them saves us from administration and relegation. That is something that Lowe and Wilde seem to be doing pretty well themselves by their inept policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 If it saves the club it is not pointless Getting rid of Lowe and Wilde is pointless unless it saves us from administration and relegation. Unless your agenda is get rid of them both and sod the club As per Um's post, I agree that Leon is unlikely to put anything in unless Lowe is diluted in some way. I know what you are saying John, but would WW3 start again in a couple of months with those 3 back together???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 That's Monday in Kuwait though Don't be an idiot. It's about 1 o'clock in the afternoon there currently, Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Don't be an idiot. It's about 1 o'clock in the afternoon there currently, Sunday. No but Sunday is the start of the working week rather than Monday. Phil says so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 I can't see that Crouch would be prepared to put any more of his money into the club unless it was on the basis that Wilde and Lowe had no place on the board. Why would he prop up a regime he detests? And John B, getting rid of Lowe and Wilde is not pointless provided that what replaces them saves us from administration and relegation. That is something that Lowe and Wilde seem to be doing pretty well themselves by their inept policies. I agree that is what I thought I said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 I can't see that Crouch would be prepared to put any more of his money into the club unless it was on the basis that Wilde and Lowe had no place on the board. Why would he prop up a regime he detests? And John B, getting rid of Lowe and Wilde is not pointless provided that what replaces them saves us from administration and relegation. That is something that Lowe and Wilde seem to be doing pretty well themselves by their inept policies. Very true Wes, I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 As per Um's post, I agree that Leon is unlikely to put anything in unless Lowe is diluted in some way. I know what you are saying John, but would WW3 start again in a couple of months with those 3 back together???? You would have thought that three so called intelligent business men could work together in running a football club without all antics we have now. But my problem is I am relatively reasonable and dont have vendettas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 25 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 January, 2009 As per Um's post, I agree that Leon is unlikely to put anything in unless Lowe is diluted in some way. I know what you are saying John, but would WW3 start again in a couple of months with those 3 back together???? as i said,it hasnt been made clear if the money belongs to crouch or it is money that somebody else is prepared to inject?....i would imagine that either way there will be conditions which i would imagine would favour crouch unless the others are prepared to stick their hands in their pockets? the WW3 thing also worries me but this is something we might have to put up with to survive the season,its not ideal but it could be a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 You would have thought that three so called intelligent business men could work together in running a football club without all antics we have now. But my problem is I am relatively reasonable and dont have vendettas. Agreed, but I guess we're talking big egos.... TBF I think that Wilde is worse than Lowe - if he rubber stamped Lowe's return then he shows less respect for us than anyone. And just to get back at Leon... Crazy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 No but Sunday is the start of the working week rather than Monday. Phil says so. It might be the start of their working week, but it doesn't make it Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 intelligent business men Intelligent business men don't sack a unifying manager during a period of turmoil and strife. They then don't appoint an unknown, inexperienced and out of his depth Head Coach and approve a strategy that is close to mentalism. They then don't force that guy out onlt to replace him with his understudy who has been complicit in everything to date. Clearly, Lowe is not an intelligent business man;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Wouldnt be surprised. £5m would probably get us a steally experienced player and allow us to recall our loanees for the survival campaign ahead. IT ALSO MAY GET US A REAL MANAGER...and I would say he should be offered a substantial bounty (a la Hodgson at Fulham) if he pulls off survival in the CCC this season. Thank god one of them is trying to be constructive rather than enduring more of Lowe's failed destructive policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Intelligent business men don't sack a unifying manager during a period of turmoil and strife. They then don't appoint an unknown, inexperienced and out of his depth Head Coach and approve a strategy that is close to mentalism. They then don't force that guy out onlt to replace him with his understudy who has been complicit in everything to date. Clearly, Lowe is not an intelligent business man;) We used to call it the Lowe cost option ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Getting rid of Lowe and Wilde is pointless unless it saves us from administration and relegation. Wes Tender:And John B, getting rid of Lowe and Wilde is not pointless provided that what replaces them saves us from administration and relegation. That is something that Lowe and Wilde seem to be doing pretty well themselves by their inept policies. John B: I agree that is what I thought I said Not quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Intelligent business men don't sack a unifying manager during a period of turmoil and strife. They then don't appoint an unknown, inexperienced and out of his depth Head Coach and approve a strategy that is close to mentalism. They then don't force that guy out onlt to replace him with his understudy who has been complicit in everything to date. Clearly, Lowe is not an intelligent business man;) I am sorry but it is people like you that are continually stoking up the argument which is causing offence to other posters why dont you give it rest and if there is harmony on this forum perhaps there could be harmony with the shareholders. , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 If Crouch was putting this amount of money in the club then surely he could rid us of Lowe and his cabal once and for all. I would be very disappointed if he doesn't. The jellyfish I'm not too bothered about. He'll just do as he's told. Also fail to see the positives in JP being replaced by Wotte. If that was a condition of Crouch's return then he hasn't bargained hard enough. Not too sure about this rumour. Surely Crouch could get a better deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 I think that something is about happen. I think that it involves Crouch. There have been a lot of indicators recently that something is bubbling away in the background. eg The sudden removal of JP. Why on a Friday evening of al times??? A few snippets dropped on here by renowned posters. The re appearance on this forum of pro Crouch posts with certain well connected posters being prominent. I am most definitely not ITK but Crouch reappearing with some money would fit the bill. In my eyes it would be a matter for rejoicing - especially if it were to mark the end of the Rupes and Mikey show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 I am sorry but it is people like you that are continually stoking up the argument which is causing offence to other posters why dont you give it rest and if there is harmony on this forum perhaps there could be harmony with the shareholders. , You talk a load of rubbish. Can't really think of a more constructive way of saying it. Go and see your GP tomorrow. Tell him you think you may be suffering from Von Ostrich Syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 25 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 January, 2009 think about it logically,lowe and wilde are not stupid.......they are here to protect their money and they hope that they can turn things around and make even more money.at the moment this is not happening and their shares are pretty much worthless,even more so if we are relegated so if crouch wants to inject money to help the situation then they would be stupid not to accept,regardless of their dislike for each other. lowe and wilde might have to bite their lips and admit defeat to allow crouch to help them out but they will do it to preserve their money. for all we know lowe could be looking for a hassle free way out and crouch could be his passport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Whatever happens it will be too little too late. Lowe has already overseen our 2nd relegation with him at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 think about it logically,lowe and wilde are not stupid.......they are here to protect their money and they hope that they can turn things around and make even more money.at the moment this is not happening and their shares are pretty much worthless,even more so if we are relegated so if crouch wants to inject money to help the situation then they would be stupid not to accept,regardless of their dislike for each other. lowe and wilde might have to bite their lips and admit defeat to allow crouch to help them out but they will do it to preserve their money. for all we know lowe could be looking for a hassle free way out and crouch could be his passport? But why would Crouch come in and save the club for the benefit of Lowe and Wilde. There's certainly no love lost there. Lowe and Wilde are down at the moment, and in business if a rival is down you kick them, not help them up. Lowe certainly would if the boot was on the other foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 i have had a snippet of info from my source in the media that crouch has struck a deal with the other 2 (lowe and wilde) and is coming back in some capacity bringing with him some money believed to be £5mil?? it is unclear where the money has come from or what it is to be spent on (players,debts,overdraft?) my source thinks this will be revealed early this week. the info is a bit patchy but it does sort of tie in with what others have said on here..... im not sure about this one myself but we will have to wait and see i suppose Some pie in the sky rumours: http://www.facebook.com/wall.php?id=56298189531&page=4&hash=413773c96700f76ffbdd10a5719f898d Louis wrote at 13:23 on 23 January 2009 Don't want to get anyone's hopes up or anything, but a groundsman at the club was saying that Saints played a foreign team at St. Mary's today to 'show-off' to a potential millionaire investor, who is interested in paying off all of the debts, as well as investing over £6 million into the club. Obviously because I've heard it from a friend, it could be a load of rubbish, but would be interesting to hear from someone else who heard this. I will try to follow this up if I hear anything different. http://www.clubfanzine.com/southampton/v2.showNews.php?id=17520&pageno=1 TheWhistleblower posted at 24 Jan 2009 18:18:18I was at the stadium on friday for the game that was behind closed door's against Ujpest... There was no meeting with Leon Crouch. Believe it or not there was a potential buyer being shown around the ground, although I have no idea as to who it was. http://www.clubfanzine.com/southampton/v2.showNews.php?id=17520&pageno=2 Anon posted at 24 Jan 2009 19:27:53Someone has told upthesaints website that Wilde has thrown in the towel. The bank have told Lowe they will pull the plug unless something that Crouch was proposing last May to them comes to frutition. IE he was going to use his own money to underwrite any bank loans. I fail to see how Leon Crouch would get involved in this unless he had Lowe and Wilde shares sold to his group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 think about it logically,lowe and wilde are not stupid.......they are here to protect their money and they hope that they can turn things around and make even more money.at the moment this is not happening and their shares are pretty much worthless,even more so if we are relegated so if crouch wants to inject money to help the situation then they would be stupid not to accept,regardless of their dislike for each other. lowe and wilde might have to bite their lips and admit defeat to allow crouch to help them out but they will do it to preserve their money. for all we know lowe could be looking for a hassle free way out and crouch could be his passport? I agree. At the end of the day if this club goes into administration with Lowe at the helm not only does that prove to everyone that he has failed but I believe it also affects his business activities elsewhere, ie - isnt there some rule about being a Director of a business when you have just been put into administration ? Some sort of equivalent of being struck off for a period of time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 I agree. At the end of the day if this club goes into administration with Lowe at the helm not only does that prove to everyone that he has failed but I believe it also affects his business activities elsewhere, ie - isnt there some rule about being a Director of a business when you have just been put into administration ? Some sort of equivalent of being struck off for a period of time ? Not exactly. A director can be banned from being a Director in the future if s/he's declared bankrupt. It's also illegal to continue to trade an insolvent company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 You would have thought that three so called intelligent business men could work together in running a football club without all antics we have now. But my problem is I am relatively reasonable and dont have vendettas. Rupert Lowe - intelligent business man? Mmm, ever seen Dragon's Den?? Rupert is the guy who comes in saying he's come up with something new every week - like a square wheel, an opaque window or a pair of trousers with no holes at the bottom of the legs. And the Dragon's politely tell him it's been done before, better and works by someone else. But each week he has yet a new plan that's as ill-conceived as before. Baldrick we should call him. Or Helen Keller. Because he seems to be deaf and blind as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 You talk a load of rubbish. Can't really think of a more constructive way of saying it. Go and see your GP tomorrow. Tell him you think you may be suffering from Von Ostrich Syndrome. Being abusive and agressive is not helping the situation is it and that is my whole point. Crouch Lowe and Wilde need to work together not fight each other. Same with you and me we both want a successful SFC but it is going to take some time for that to happen and there will probably more downs than ups in the near future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 25 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 January, 2009 I agree. At the end of the day if this club goes into administration with Lowe at the helm not only does that prove to everyone that he has failed but I believe it also affects his business activities elsewhere, ie - isnt there some rule about being a Director of a business when you have just been put into administration ? Some sort of equivalent of being struck off for a period of time ? you could be right,im not sure about his other business activities being affected but i cannot believe that lowe and wilde are here for any other reason than to protect their fortunes,regardless of what they say in public.these people are driven by money or the potential to earn money so they would be acting outside of their comfort zone if they didnt accept crouch's millions.....if true of course. perhaps the banks are forcing the issue?,some on here have said that crouch had a good working relationship with the banks and they must of been aware that crouch is willing to inject money so perhaps they have had enough and are forcing lowe and wilde to accept crouch's offer or face the consequences.....who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Why should Leon Crouch bail the club out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Because he's a fan and loves the club, and doesn't want to cut his nose to spite his face? Just a thought? Regards, Edam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 I'm sure Leon would do all he could (financially) to bail out SFC, but i can't see him wanting to prop up Lowe and Slithery Snake Mike Wilde. If Leon does have funds he wants to pump in i'd arther he held back than support the current regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 I really hope this is true. Crouch is the sort of person we need in charge of the club, for all his failings as a chairman he at least caired about the club unlike Wilde and Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 could this finally mean that all 3 will be singing from the same hymn sheet? For us to move forward this must happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 If Leon is prepared to put that sum of money in out of his own pocket, then maybe we're not quite so close to administration. I can't see that he would risk his own money by propping up the current cabal, only to lose it all if we still went belly up. He must be fairly sure he won't lose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Lowes curiously timed holidays come into this somewhere. I think we may well have seen the last of him at SMS,possibly Wilde too. Either administration is guaranteed or this story has legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonRichards Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Don't want to get anyone's hopes up or anything, but a groundsman at the club was saying that Saints played a foreign team at St. Mary's today to 'show-off' to a potential millionaire investor, who is interested in paying off all of the debts, as well as investing over £6 million into the club. Obviously because I've heard it from a friend, it could be a load of rubbish, but would be interesting to hear from someone else who heard this. I will try to follow this up if I hear anything different. That is exactly what I have heard from a friend who is connected is with SFC. The game was originally planned to be played at Staplewood but got switched to SMS for this "potential investor" to see the ground, squad etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NI76 Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 i have had a snippet of info from my source in the media that crouch has struck a deal with the other 2 (lowe and wilde) and is coming back in some capacity bringing with him some money believed to be £5mil?? it is unclear where the money has come from or what it is to be spent on (players,debts,overdraft?) my source thinks this will be revealed early this week. the info is a bit patchy but it does sort of tie in with what others have said on here..... im not sure about this one myself but we will have to wait and see i suppose People been talking loudly in the carpark again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Previous rumours / talk claimed that somebody spoke to Crouch in person and he said he had no interest or intention of returning to the club. Let's hope he's had a change of heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 That is exactly what I have heard from a friend who is connected is with SFC. The game was originally planned to be played at Staplewood but got switched to SMS for this "potential investor" to see the ground, squad etc I was told that Paul Allens yacht was docked in Southampton this week - naturally i laughed at this gossip, but could it be true and there's a link?:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sir woody Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 That is exactly what I have heard from a friend who is connected is with SFC. The game was originally planned to be played at Staplewood but got switched to SMS for this "potential investor" to see the ground, squad etc I heard exactly the same yesterday, too many coincidences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 I heard exactly the same yesterday, too many coincidences. I never heard it, normally when I hear stuff they rarely happen, so me not hearing this is good news (this is in regards to the potential millionaire). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 if there is harmony on this forum perhaps there could be harmony with the shareholders. , You're clearly delusional:smt104 Come on guys, let's all have a love in and then all our problems will be solved. Behave yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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