Shea Charles

[Wade Garrett]

Thought Charles put in a proper box to box midfield performance yesterday.  He’s got some engine.  Was our best player.

[HarvSFC]

Under Martin, that long ball at the end never gets played. We'd be passing it around our centre-backs on the centre circle with time ticking away. Manning also doesn't make the forward run as he was always the inverted full-back and expected to tuck in to the centre of the pitch and recycle the ball sideways when we were attacking. The same role Max Aarons is playing at Rangers, and he's had a poor start up there. A lot more freedom and tactics designed around their strengths seemed to aid Charles, Manning, Stephens and Bazunu (allowed to play long balls now and not under constant pressure) yesterday.

[CampionSaint]

I couldn't understand why we didn't recall Charles from his loan in January.  It's not as if we have loads of quality central midfielders without him.

[Lighthouse]

3 minutes ago, CampionSaint said:

I couldn't understand why we didn't recall Charles from his loan in January.  It's not as if we have loads of quality central midfielders without him.

He struggled to make an impact in the Championship two years ago. He didn't go from that to PL standard in half a season on loan at Wednesday.

[Matthew Le God]

 

 

[Smirking_Saint]

18 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

He struggled to make an impact in the Championship two years ago. He didn't go from that to PL standard in half a season on loan at Wednesday.

I always thought it was harsh, he was clearly a good player, but he did struggle at times to play the demanding possession based game Martin wanted

It was scandalous that we decided to play Smallbone or others over Charles during Downes’ abscence

[Badger]

3 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

I always thought it was harsh, he was clearly a good player, but he did struggle at times to play the demanding possession based game Martin wanted

It was scandalous that we decided to play Smallbone or others over Charles during Downes’ abscence

Didn’t Martin see him as a stand in CB as much as anything ? 

[Badger]

29 minutes ago, CampionSaint said:

I couldn't understand why we didn't recall Charles from his loan in January.  It's not as if we have loads of quality central midfielders without him.

Personally I’m glad we didn’t. Think such an experience might have been a traumatic one, more in our interests for him to keep playing. ( Altjough staying at Sheff Weds probably brought its own issues for him as things turned out). 

[Smirking_Saint]

3 minutes ago, Badger said:

Didn’t Martin see him as a stand in CB as much as anything ? 

Fuck knows

Im not as anti martin as some on here but he did some very odd stuff

Was just a stubborn prick really

[saintant]

2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

 

Good watch that. Makes you realise how much good stuff he did throughout the game.

[Colinjb]

2 hours ago, CampionSaint said:

I couldn't understand why we didn't recall Charles from his loan in January.  It's not as if we have loads of quality central midfielders without him.

He was doing well, we were going down. Why tar him with that failure? He's back and hitting the ground running, the decision not to recall him could be argued to be paying off.

[Tauro]

I really enjoyed watching his individual performance. He looked like an absolute Rolls Royce of a player in there against Wrexham. Reminds me a lot of Schneiderlin at that level. Would like to see him add a little more upper body strength and he will be a top player for us. Can definitely make the jump up a level.

[goodymatt]

15 hours ago, Colinjb said:

He was doing well, we were going down. Why tar him with that failure? He's back and hitting the ground running, the decision not to recall him could be argued to be paying off.

Agree. If he did come back from loan and did well at PL level, we might be in a position where we lost him this summer. Instead we have a better version of him ready to go and be one of our best players this season. Let’s hope we can get him to sign an extension now. He was great on Saturday, seemed to find that forward pass time and again and made himself time on the ball when he needed to. Very clever player. His diagonal ball to start the move for the winner showed a different side to his game, I hadn’t seen any of his long range passing in Martin ball.