The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

[hypochondriac]

17 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Yeah, it does seem to be that way, but those frictions will have to come home to roost at some point. Really not a fan of them tbh, they've got so many polices i think would be disastrous - Legalising class A drugs and the sex trade, and their stance on open borders and nato/defence (i.e., leaving nato and expelling Nato/US forces from british bases - does Polanski work for russia / china?!)

Labour need to get their house in order or they're going to get consumed by the far left, and we'll be left with a choice between two ideologically very opposed parties in the greens and reform, with the centerground completely abandoned - i.e., the country will start to become ungovernable. 

Anyway, maybe you'll be right and Labour see them off.

It's only a matter of time before the sectarian vote coalesces into their own party and that's when it will really be depressing with block voting and campaign ads in a different language. The Greens may have a temporary boost for now by appealing to the but that won't last and naive of them if they think it will. They will go for another Gaza supporting, Jew hating party that doesn't want to legalise all drugs and support drag queen story hour 

[AlexLaw76]

13 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

It's only a matter of time before the sectarian vote coalesces into their own party and that's when it will really be depressing with block voting and campaign ads in a different language. The Greens may have a temporary boost for now by appealing to the but that won't last and naive of them if they think it will. They will go for another Gaza supporting, Jew hating party that doesn't want to legalise all drugs and support drag queen story hour 

it wont be long before parts of Bradford or Birmingham are openly hostile to certain sections of 'society' (than they already are), and that booze is banned outright and such like.

Meanwhile, thousands more pour into the country completely unchecked.

 

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[hypochondriac]

6 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

it wont be long before parts of Bradford or Birmingham are openly hostile to certain sections of 'society' (than they already are), and that booze is banned outright and such like.

Meanwhile, thousands more pour into the country completely unchecked.

 

If it wasn't my country and I wasn't emotionally invested I'd find it quite interesting to see how the current people in power act as the rise in sectarian politics becomes impossible to ignore. If democracy gets subverted and some regions start voting for things that are against our way of life what realistically can be done? If it has democratic weight behind it it will be pretty difficult to stop.

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[AlexLaw76]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

If it wouldn't my country and I wasn't emotionally invested I'd find it quite interesting to see how the current people in power act as the rise in sectarian politics becomes impossible to ignore. If democracy gets subverted and some regions start voting for things that are against our way of life what realistically can be done? If it has democratic weight behind it it will be pretty difficult to stop.

what makes it worse, there are plenty of utterly useful idiots who will will this on, for no other reason than to virtue signal.

The country is gone, we are in the slow decline of a great nation that will be split by weird sectarian lines, dominated by downtown shit holes in big cities. 

Whilst this is happening, those in power do fuck all about it. It is all very strange.

[hypochondriac]

7 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

what makes it worse, there are plenty of utterly useful idiots who will will this on, for no other reason than to virtue signal.

The country is gone, we are in the slow decline of a great nation that will be split by weird sectarian lines, dominated by downtown shit holes in big cities. 

Whilst this is happening, those in power do fuck all about it. It is all very strange.

I don't think it's bad enough yet for anyone to really do much about it. Even reform don't want to go too far because they wont attract a more moderate voter that they need if they want to win anything. Israel Palestine has sped things up a bit. I don't think anyone would get elected who would do what needs doing.