The Reform Thread

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

Whataboutery at its finest.

[Farmer Saint]

8 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

Ok point accepted alternatively I could just refer to the report into anti semitism in the Labour Party. If we take labours failures on this, if the case being made is that we go by the lowest common denominator nobody should vote for Labour or reform or the Green Party

I think people shouldn't vote for the Greens TBH, as this happened under Polanski's watch. Same with Reform, as this has all happened under Farage. That report was about the Labour party under Corbyn, so yes I don't think people should have voted for Corbyn's Labour party if they knew about that. I think most people would support that.

So who you going to vote for now Reform are off the table?

Edited October 24 by Farmer Saint

[badgerx16]

9 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

Ok point accepted alternatively I could just refer to the report into anti semitism in the Labour Party. If we take labours failures on this, if the case being made is that we go by the lowest common denominator nobody should vote for Labour or reform or the Green Party

The difference is that whilst within the Labour there have been a minority of people exhibiting anti-semitic views, and action is taken against them, one of the driving principles and attractions of Reform is, ( putting it mildly ), antipathy towards immigrants, and there is a large, and growing, body of evidence that many Reform Councillors and candidates, and their fanbase, are outright racists.

Edited October 24 by badgerx16

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

41 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

The difference is that whilst within the Labour there have been a minority of people exhibiting anti-semitic views, and action is taken against them, one of the driving principles and attractions of Reform is, ( putting it mildly ), antipathy towards immigrants, and there is a large, and growing, body of evidence that many Reform Councillors and candidates, and their fanbase, are outright racists.

 

[Sir Ralph]

On 24/10/2026 at 09:32, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

 

I can admit if I understood a news article incorrectly. The irony of you trying to call me out. Have you answers to my seven or so questions yet that you still haven’t answered?

[Sir Ralph]

On 24/10/2026 at 08:50, badgerx16 said:

The difference is that whilst within the Labour there have been a minority of people exhibiting anti-semitic views, and action is taken against them, one of the driving principles and attractions of Reform is, ( putting it mildly ), antipathy towards immigrants, and there is a large, and growing, body of evidence that many Reform Councillors and candidates, and their fanbase, are outright racists.

I think a lot of people are attracted by their stance on illegal immigration (which isn’t racist). There is a faction of people that vote reform that may be racist as there are / have been with Labour and the Greens in relation to Jews. However, I’m not aware of policies / strategy from reform to encourage or promote racism. As I understand it the relevant people in the documentary have been suspended so I’m unclear how Reform are encouraging racism.  What do you think they should do?

It would be interesting if these tv channels went undercover into the Labour and Green Party to see what they find

Edited October 25 by Sir Ralph

[Sir Ralph]

On 24/10/2026 at 00:46, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

Whataboutery at its finest.

Not really. People are saying that reform are horrendously racist and people shouldn’t vote for them. I’m saying that many political parties have or have had such issues and therefore, applying that logic, nobody should vote for any of them. Therefore people shouldn’t determine a party by its lowest common denominator. I appreciate that’s a two step argument so maybe put it into ChatGPT if you are struggling to understand 

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

2 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Not really. People are saying that reform are horrendously racist and people shouldn’t vote for them. I’m saying that many political parties have or have had such issues and therefore, applying that logic, nobody should vote for any of them. Therefore people shouldn’t determine a party by its lowest common denominator. I appreciate that’s a two step argument so maybe put it into ChatGPT if you are struggling to understand 

I think you're struggling to show equivalency and it is whataboutery. And dressing it up as that's your motto.

Reform/Restore - many accounts of being c**ts. Other parties fewer accounts = as bad as each other. 

Oh look Nick Clegg had a few bad eggs in the BNP. Let's use the lowest denominator to say they're ok.

 

[badgerx16]

When does xenophobia cross into racism?

 

The inference Farage was msking by exploiting this image of people fleeing civil war is obvious. And he could not avoid the similiatity to this Naxi propaganda film

 

"In October 2025, YouGov found that 47% of Britons considered Reform UK generally racist, while 43% said the same of its voters."

https://theconversation.com/will-reform-uks-racism-scandal-cost-votes-heres-what-previous-polling-tells-us-294707

[Sir Ralph]

5 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

I think you're struggling to show equivalency and it is whataboutery. And dressing it up as that's your motto.

Reform/Restore - many accounts of being c**ts. Other parties fewer accounts = as bad as each other. 

Oh look Nick Clegg had a few bad eggs in the BNP. Let's use the lowest denominator to say they're ok.

 

I’m not the one alleging that reform is more racist. I said they all have / have had their issues. Why is reform more racist other than your perception? Any statistics to back that up?

Also people are saying that reform voters are racist. When Labour had its anti semitism issues were people that voted for them racist? Can you answer that question?

[Farmer Saint]

28 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

I’m not the one alleging that reform is more racist. I said they all have / have had their issues. Why is reform more racist other than your perception? Any statistics to back that up?

Also people are saying that reform voters are racist. When Labour had its anti semitism issues were people that voted for them racist? Can you answer that question?

Under Corbyn there is an argument for that, sure, that people would vote for them with the idea that they're anti-Semitic. Not sure that would happen now, as they'll be lost to the Greens.

I have a really simple couple of questions.

Do you believe that Reform has a higher proportion of racists both within the party, and voting for them, than Labour did anti-Semites under Corbyn?

Do you believe that Labour still has a large proportion of anti-Semites within the party?

Do you believe that Nigel Farage is racist?

Edited October 25 by Farmer Saint

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

50 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

I’m not the one alleging that reform is more racist. I said they all have / have had their issues. Why is reform more racist other than your perception? Any statistics to back that up?

Also people are saying that reform voters are racist. When Labour had its anti semitism issues were people that voted for them racist? Can you answer that question?

Where have I said Reform is racist? 

Read the post and not try to play the poster.

 

[Farmer Saint]

Christ almighty - did anyone just hear Richard Tice on LBC. Reform policies to "stimulate the economy" include:

- MOTs to 4 years for Brand new cars, to save businesses money (not taking into account that MOT centres would lose money - they hadn't thought of that).

- Allowing businesses to use imperial measurements if they want.

These are their policies for stimulating the economy.

Wow.

 

Edited October 26 by Farmer Saint

[badgerx16]

10 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Christ almighty - did anyone just hear Richard Tice on LBC. Reform policies to "stimulate the economy" include:

- MOTs to 4 years for Brand new cars, to save businesses money (not taking into account that MOT centres would lose money - they hadn't thought of that).

- Allowing businesses to use imperial measurements if they want.

These are their policies for stimulating the economy.

Wow.

 

Beer in pints, hoorray ! 

[Gloucester Saint]

 

[tdmickey3]

7 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

 

Piece of shit

[rallyboy]

The positive thing is that rather than muttering in the shadows because they think they have minority views, these people are now showing us who they really are, in the real world, and on forums.

And the second positive is that they don't even realise, they are still in the minority.

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

Christ almighty - did anyone just hear Richard Tice on LBC. Reform policies to "stimulate the economy" include:

- MOTs to 4 years for Brand new cars, to save businesses money (not taking into account that MOT centres would lose money - they hadn't thought of that).

- Allowing businesses to use imperial measurements if they want.

These are their policies for stimulating the economy.

Wow.

 

Fantastic news. This paves the way for me to fill me car up in "drams" rather than those pesky litres. Vive La revolution!

[Farmer Saint]

17 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Fantastic news. This paves the way for me to fill me car up in "drams" rather than those pesky litres. Vive La revolution!

I'm going to start paying for stuff in groats.

That's groats, not goats. I already do the latter.

Edited October 26 by Farmer Saint

[ecuk268]

2 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Beer in pints, hoorray ! 

Remember my dad having an allotment.

The size of the plot was one rod which was 5.5 yards square.

I think that a lot of allotments are still measured in rods.

[badgerx16]

8 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

Remember my dad having an allotment.

The size of the plot was one rod which was 5.5 yards square.

I think that a lot of allotments are still measured in rods.

Also known as the Pole or Perch.

40 square rods is a Rood, which is a quarter of an acre.

[spyinthesky]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Also known as the Pole or Perch.

40 square rods is a Rood, which is a quarter of an acre.

Badge

Dont forget about the Chain (Gunter's Chain) which is equivalent to 4 rods, 22 yards, 66 feet or 20.12 metres.
10 Chains make a furlong and 80 Chains make a statute mile.
An area of 10 square chains = 1 acre 

[badgerx16]

4 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

Badge

Dont forget about the Chain (Gunter's Chain) which is equivalent to 4 rods, 22 yards, 66 feet or 20.12 metres.
10 Chains make a furlong and 80 Chains make a statute mile.
An area of 10 square chains = 1 acre 

22 yards, also known as a cricket pitch.

[Whitey Grandad]

2 hours ago, spyinthesky said:

Badge

Dont forget about the Chain (Gunter's Chain) which is equivalent to 4 rods, 22 yards, 66 feet or 20.12 metres.
10 Chains make a furlong and 80 Chains make a statute mile.
An area of 10 square chains = 1 acre 

And an acre is a furlong by a chain being the area that a ploughman's would be expected to till in one day a furlong, or one furrowlong, and a chain being the length needed to turn a plough.

[rallyboy]

And three yards being the distance that Harry Maguire requires to trap a football.

[tdmickey3]

Anyone had this shit paper through your door, apparently its imminent. 

I shall tell them to shove up their arse when they try

Edited October 27 by tdmickey3

[benjii]

1 minute ago, tdmickey3 said:

Anyone had this shit paper through your door, apparently its imminent. 

I shall tell the to shove up their arse when they try

Put it in the post to Reform HQ.

[ecuk268]

2 hours ago, tdmickey3 said:

Anyone had this shit paper through your door, apparently its imminent. 

I shall tell the to shove up their arse when they try

As we're being told to stockpile some emergency supplies, it could help relieve any toilet roll shortage.

[Weston Super Saint]

3 hours ago, tdmickey3 said:

Anyone had this shit paper through your door, apparently its imminent. 

I shall tell them to shove up their arse when they try

Got mine today. What an excellent read. I've been searching online but I can't find any university offering a degree to study Mickey Mouse.

[badgerx16]

59 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Got mine today. What an excellent read. I've been searching online but I can't find any university offering a degree to study Mickey Mouse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_University

[Weston Super Saint]

17 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_University

Bad news for those guys.  Nigel wants to banish funding for Mickey Mouse degrees.  What will happen to all the unused fancy dress costumes?

[Gloucester Saint]

54 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Bad news for those guys.  Nigel wants to banish funding for Mickey Mouse degrees.  What will happen to all the unused fancy dress costumes?

Pre-match entertainment show at Fratton. Bit highbrow for Westwood after 15 pints of Stella but better value than a light show.

They could even raise money for Children in Need by wearing their TY sponsor kit again from 03/04. 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 hours ago, ecuk268 said:

As we're being told to stockpile some emergency supplies, it could help relieve any toilet roll shortage.

Nigel Farage is full of shit anyway so it makes sense to use it that way.

[Sheaf Saint]

https://www.joe.co.uk/politics/nigel-farage-claims-he-didnt-attend-budget-because-of-possible-physical-altercation-553580

Frogage's latest attempt at pretending to be a victim being rightly called out as BS by various other members of the house. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Jenrick didn't get far in his 5 live interview on the budget before he, and every listener, was reminded of his place in the Truss cabinet on her budget.

Not sure what kind of impact he had in his health role, over such a short time. I wonder if there's HOC footage of him clapping along to it.

[Golactico]

So Nigel. Tell me more about this brilliant crypto currency stuff.....

[Willo of Whiteley]

Farage is like one of those turds that doesn’t flush.

And Jenrick is like one of those horrible flies that hovers around it, not adding anything apart from annoyance.

[Gloucester Saint]

Reform truly reverting to type. Those defecting Tories, apart from the glory-hunting ones, obvious why they did so.

https://www.itv.com/news/2026-10-29/badenoch-says-racist-attacks-will-not-work-after-nigerian-scammer-comments

[tdmickey3]

3 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Reform truly reverting to type. Those defecting Tories, apart from the glory-hunting ones, obvious why they did so.

https://www.itv.com/news/2026-10-29/badenoch-says-racist-attacks-will-not-work-after-nigerian-scammer-comments

Scum, is not a strong enough word to describe these lot

[whelk]

Another bad apple it would appear.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c63elky79np7o

 

[tdmickey3]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

Another bad apple it would appear.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c63elky79np7o

 

Being a nasty cunt is a compulsory to join this lot 

Edited 8 hours ago by tdmickey3

[Sheaf Saint]

25 minutes ago, whelk said:

Another bad apple it would appear.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c63elky79np7o

 

Isn't it amazing how their rigorous vetting process still keeps missing people like this. 

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

So the lowest common denominator means each party has some bad eggs. You can't judge parties by this metric or so I've been told.

Or I'm not clever to understand it. 😐

[whelk]

18 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Isn't it amazing how their rigorous vetting process still keeps missing people like this. 

Especially as they are a well known crime family within Portsmouth………apparently 

[Willo of Whiteley]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

Another bad apple it would appear.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c63elky79np7o

 

How can anyone back this lot - delusion at its finest.

“One bad apple” - yep, two go with the rest.

[Golactico]

The ITV documentary showed that they were already really scraping the barrel for prospective councillors/MPs. Makes you shudder to think what sort of characters they'll be putting up to replace the incompetents and criminals that have fallen by the wayside. Surely their support must be dwindling back down to the knuckle draggers that they started with?