Gloucester Saint Posted March 10 Posted March 10 16 hours ago, aintforever said: I wonder if the sports finance rules are making a difference? The middle clubs seem to be catching up with the traditional Champions League sides which makes the gap between sides like us even bigger. Or could just be us that are shit and making it look worse. PSR/FFP. Ipswich haven’t had that issue yet having come up two divisions and hence more headroom than Saints or Leicester had to invest last summer. Made some good signings - Delap especially - but some that haven’t worked in midfield and central defence which isn’t surprising over so many transactions. Hopefully Saints can finally sign some of the spine this time that might make the transition in future as well as some players purely to go up. Hoping Charles and Edwards mature into two players who can make it.
skintsaint Posted March 10 Posted March 10 10 hours ago, Dark Munster said: We haven't been in many winning positions have we? Leicester, Ipswich at home and Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool away come to mind. Any others? https://www.football365.com/premier-league/table/points-lost-from-winning-positions Just found this.
Dark Munster Posted March 10 Posted March 10 2 hours ago, skintsaint said: https://www.football365.com/premier-league/table/points-lost-from-winning-positions Just found this. We’re top of something!
Whitey Grandad Posted March 10 Posted March 10 4 hours ago, skintsaint said: https://www.football365.com/premier-league/table/points-lost-from-winning-positions Just found this. I will always maintain that being a goal or two ahead in a game is in no way a “winning position”. Why do we have to suffer these Americanisms in our beautiful game? 1
St Louis Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said: I will always maintain that being a goal or two ahead in a game is in no way a “winning position”. Why do we have to suffer these Americanisms in our beautiful game? If you are leading in a match, you are in a 'winning position', surely? The game isnt won by all means, but you've been in a winning position and then lost that lead. Edited March 10 by St Louis 1
Weston Super Saint Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said: I will always maintain that being a goal or two ahead in a game is in no way a “winning position”. Why do we have to suffer these Americanisms in our beautiful game? Not even if a team is 2 up with 1 minute to go?
Whitey Grandad Posted March 10 Posted March 10 48 minutes ago, St Louis said: If you are leading in a match, you are in a 'winning position', surely? The game isnt won by all means, but you've been in a winning position and then lost that lead. The game isn’t over ‘til the fat lady whistles.
Whitey Grandad Posted March 10 Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Not even if a team is 2 up with 1 minute to go? To if that team is Saints 😉 1
Whitey Grandad Posted March 10 Posted March 10 6 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Not even if a team is 2 up with 1 minute to go? There are obviously different degrees of winningness.
SaintsBarry74 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) As long as we don't beat Derby's record it can't get any worse than it already is - unless if we somehow bank another 0-9. Edited March 10 by SaintsBarry74
Sunglasses Ron Posted March 15 Posted March 15 So what’s worse, losing 0-9 at home, or losing 9 in a row (and counting) at home? Guess it’s like choosing between being kicked in the nuts or kicked in the head? 1
die Mannyschaft Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Only team to play entire season without buying or playing a striker. There must be 1m people playing football in England who are forwards who get 10 goals or more. Another 1m academy players. Apparently Saints are also the highest players of the ball to create a shot.
Ted Bates Statue Posted March 15 Posted March 15 On 10/03/2025 at 16:15, Whitey Grandad said: I will always maintain that being a goal or two ahead in a game is in no way a “winning position”. Why do we have to suffer these Americanisms in our beautiful game? Sounds like the sort of excuse Nathan Jones would come up with
Whitey Grandad Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Ted Bates Statue said: Sounds like the sort of excuse Nathan Jones would come up with No connection whatsoever.
Football Special Posted March 15 Posted March 15 3 hours ago, SaintsBarry74 said: still 9 fking points ffs. I think this is it unfortunately Baz, setting a record that will likely never be beaten. 1
Galway saint Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Lowest scoring topscorer in a season could be on Aribo currently on 3 Looks like Jordan Mutch with 7 for Cardiff currently holds the record 1 1
LGTL Posted March 15 Posted March 15 2 minutes ago, Galway saint said: Lowest scoring topscorer in a season could be on Aribo currently on 3 Looks like Jordan Mutch with 7 for Cardiff currently holds the record That’s done and dusted. We’ll be lucky to score 4 more goals, let alone Aribo getting them all. Especially from CB 🤦♂️ 1 1
Galway saint Posted March 15 Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, LGTL said: That’s done and dusted. We’ll be lucky to score 4 more goals, let alone Aribo getting them all. Especially from CB 🤦♂️ yes feels like it's ours to lose - might be worth Juric dropping him just to make sure 4
Football Special Posted March 15 Posted March 15 8 minutes ago, Galway saint said: Lowest scoring topscorer in a season could be on Aribo currently on 3 Looks like Jordan Mutch with 7 for Cardiff currently holds the record Um excuse me , Aribo isn't the only one on three....
SaintsBarry74 Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Two 9-0's to our name Most heavy defeats (5 goals or more against) in Premier League history Record Winless Streak (22-game winless run in the Premier League, spanning from March 12, 2023, to November 2, 2024.) Most consequetive home defeats (9 and still counting) Most home defeats in a season (Currently on 12, need 2 more to tie with Watford's record) Lowest goal tally for a top scorer (not confirmed yet, but likely) Lowest points tally, currently 9 (11 pts Derby 2007) We're firmly established in the Premier League Hall of Shame, but beating Derby would make us the reigning royalty of catastrophic failure. Any other fanbase and St Mary’s would’ve been reduced to ashes by now.
Weston Super Saint Posted March 16 Posted March 16 2 hours ago, Turkish said: 3 away from most consecutive home losses 👊👊👊 It's in the bag.
ApprenticeBillionaire Posted March 16 Posted March 16 19 hours ago, SaintsBarry74 said: We're firmly established in the Premier League Hall of Shame, but beating Derby would make us the reigning royalty of catastrophic failure. Any other fanbase and St Mary’s would’ve been reduced to ashes by now. I can remember how toxic villa park got in their relegation season and they were nowhere near as bad. Also the West Ham anger towards the directors box that resulted in Gold and Sullivan being escorted out by bodyguards. (they were mid table at the time) 3
Eric The Red Posted March 16 Posted March 16 20 hours ago, Galway saint said: Lowest scoring topscorer in a season could be on Aribo currently on 3 Looks like Jordan Mutch with 7 for Cardiff currently holds the record Sorry to put a damper on your excitement/expectation re the lowest top goal scorer record but that I'm pretty sure is 4 ,held by Kenny miller for Derby C in their record breaking 07/08 season. We can still beat it of course but given Tall Paul's effort yesterday I think we may end up with tying the record at best. 😀😀😀😀
Doctoroncall Posted March 16 Posted March 16 Leicester beat us to becoming the first Premier League team to lose seven home matches in a row without scoring.
Green Posted March 17 Posted March 17 From the Times today, another couple of records: By winning on Good Friday, Easter Saturday and Easter Monday in 1977 Southampton gained as many points over four days (assuming three points for a win) as over this entire season so far. Four years ago Sheffield United became the first to go through a top-flight season without ever staying unbeaten over two successive games - if they won or drew then they always lost their next match.Now Southampton could beat that: every win or draw of theirs this season has been followed by at least two defeats.
ApprenticeBillionaire Posted March 17 Posted March 17 I don't care about any record except not beating Derby's. That will NEVER die.
Turkish Posted March 18 Posted March 18 On 16/03/2025 at 16:43, ApprenticeBillionaire said: I can remember how toxic villa park got in their relegation season and they were nowhere near as bad. Also the West Ham anger towards the directors box that resulted in Gold and Sullivan being escorted out by bodyguards. (they were mid table at the time) While we give muted boos and argue with each other on the internet about what the point of protesting is proper drips in our fanbase 😂😂😂
Sarnia Cherie Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Why is my newspaper telling me that Saints now hold the record for the swiftest relegation in Premier League history? Derby County were relegated on 29th March 2008 so that's an earlier date. Am I missing something, apart from that straw that's just out of reach.
Whitey Grandad Posted April 7 Posted April 7 10 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said: Why is my newspaper telling me that Saints now hold the record for the swiftest relegation in Premier League history? Derby County were relegated on 29th March 2008 so that's an earlier date. Am I missing something, apart from that straw that's just out of reach. Derby were earlier by date but they had six games left. We have seven. 1
Football Special Posted April 8 Posted April 8 If it wasn't for Terry Connor we could have top two places wrapped up. Surely RVN will have a low ratio by end of season though
lumuah Posted April 28 Author Posted April 28 (edited) On 24/02/2025 at 13:33, lumuah said: After 26 Apr: Most defeats in a season: 29 (Currently 27, 4 games left) Most home defeats in a season: 15 (14, 2 games left) Worst goal difference in a season: -69 (-55 - if we carry on with our current averages this season we will be on -61) Fewest points in a season: 11 (11) Fewest home points in a season: 7 (5) Fewest home wins in a season: 1 (1) Worst home goal difference in a season: −38 (-33, 2 games to go, with our current averages we would be on -37) RECORD CONFIRMED: Relegated with the most remaining games left (7) 4 games left to go and some records are now within touching distance. I don't think we will manage the worst goal difference in a season though - we'd have to have -15 goals in 4 games to beat that. Edited April 28 by lumuah
rallyboy Posted April 28 Posted April 28 We can smash the home defeats record and challenge the overall defeats. The slight frustration is that even if we don't get another point, we won't even manage to win the shittest team ever award - like a non-competitive sports day at a crap school, we'll have to share it forever, Saints and Derby in a shambolic suicide pact, so crap they couldn't even decide it between them. And that would sum up this excuse for a season - not even committed enough to claim outright the one big award we really deserve. But if we're looking for terrible team performances this season, I can think of half a dozen Ref and VAR combos who will take awards.
John Stonehouse Posted April 29 Posted April 29 I'd like to know how many points we "lost" this season by conceding goals in extra time? I suspect the West Ham draw is about the only point we gained in extra time?
Whitey Grandad Posted April 29 Posted April 29 1 minute ago, John Stonehouse said: I'd like to know how many points we "lost" this season by conceding goals in extra time? I suspect the West Ham draw is about the only point we gained in extra time? If we sit back and try to defend eventually we crack. Constantly trying to keep the ball out of our net causes mental and physical tiredness.
lumuah Posted May 12 Author Posted May 12 On 24/02/2025 at 13:33, lumuah said: After 10 May: Most defeats in a season: 29 (Currently 28, 2 games left) Most home defeats in a season: 15 (14, 1 game left) Worst goal difference in a season: -69 (-57 - looking less likely now, but not impossible) Fewest home points in a season: 7 (6) Fewest home wins in a season: 1 (1) Worst home goal difference in a season: −38 (-33, 1 game to go) RECORD CONFIRMED: Relegated with the most remaining games left (7) CLOSE BUT NOT QUITE S*** ENOUGH: Fewest points in a season: 11 (12) While we passed the worst prem team of all time record at the weekend, there are still some records we can achieve. Losing at home to Arsenal would secure fewest home points in a season record outright, and we would also equal the record for most home defeats in a season and fewest home wins in a season.
Weston Super Saint Posted May 18 Posted May 18 20 minutes ago, SotonianWill said: Last professional team to lose at Goodison Park Steady on. 1
sockeye Posted May 18 Posted May 18 Most defeats in a season loading... (Losing to Arsenal will make it 30)
sadoldgit Posted May 19 Posted May 19 Bizarre that we are currently 4 places below Manchester United and 3 places below Tottenham yet are rock bottom with the second worst points total in the EPL.
S-Clarke Posted May 20 Posted May 20 13 hours ago, sadoldgit said: Bizarre that we are currently 4 places below Manchester United and 3 places below Tottenham yet are rock bottom with the second worst points total in the EPL. I think it just shows you what an horrific season it's been quality wise, it's been so, so, so poor. No denying it. I know Forest, Bournemouth, Newcastle have enjoyed it - but you've got to look at the bigger picture of how bad it is. I think after tonight's result, Liverpool will have the lowest points of a winner since Leicester won it in 2016. For us to be this poor in a season this poor is a stunning achievement though to be fair. Another accolade for us to take home. 1
Football Special Posted May 20 Posted May 20 Brentford’s 3-2 home defeat to Fulham and Nottingham Forest’s 2-1 win away against West Ham United (pictured) on 18th May 2025 means that the top flight table now has four point gabs of double-figures; 12 points between first-placed Liverpool and second-placed Arsenal, 10 points behind seventh-placed Nottingham Forest and eighth-placed Brentford, 13 points between 17th-placed Tottenham Hotspur and 18th-placed Leicester City, and 10 points between 19th-placed Ipswich Town and 20th-placed Southampton. If the final table of the top flight season also includes four double-figure point gabs, then this will be the first time in league history. Previously, the 1994/95, 2009/10, 2019/20, 2020/21 and 2021/22 Premier League seasons all had a maximum of three double-figure point gaps. Just for the record, no final table at the second, third or fourth tier have ever consisted of more than two double-figure point gaps. The first time this happened was during the 1904/05 season of Division Two, where third-placed Manchester United finished 11 points ahead of fourth-placed Bristol City, while Burton United finished second-to-bottom 12 points ahead of bottom-placed Doncaster Rovers. 1
Anders Posted May 20 Posted May 20 Furthest a team has been from safety? We're currently 26 points behind Tottenham in 17th, I think Derby finished 25 points behind 17th
lumuah Posted May 23 Author Posted May 23 On 20/05/2025 at 17:24, Anders said: Furthest a team has been from safety? We're currently 26 points behind Tottenham in 17th, I think Derby finished 25 points behind 17th Thanks Anders - added to the list!
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted May 23 Posted May 23 On 20/05/2025 at 01:23, S-Clarke said: I think it just shows you what an horrific season it's been quality wise, it's been so, so, so poor. No denying it. I know Forest, Bournemouth, Newcastle have enjoyed it - but you've got to look at the bigger picture of how bad it is. I think after tonight's result, Liverpool will have the lowest points of a winner since Leicester won it in 2016. For us to be this poor in a season this poor is a stunning achievement though to be fair. Another accolade for us to take home. Why do people always associate lower points of others teams with poor quality. There are 20 teams in the PL every season. There are always 3 points for a win, and 1 point for a draw. Always the same points on offer across the season. If anything, lower points totals surely means that the league is more competitive and not dominated by a small number of teams that are streets ahead. [/MLG]
Weston Super Saint Posted May 23 Posted May 23 8 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said: Why do people always associate lower points of others teams with poor quality. There are 20 teams in the PL every season. There are always 3 points for a win, and 1 point for a draw. Always the same points on offer across the season. If anything, lower points totals surely means that the league is more competitive and not dominated by a small number of teams that are streets ahead. [/MLG] Ordinarily that's a valid point. Doesn't fit with this season though what with the shockingly low points total from those in the bottom six - once upon a time the magical 40 points would be enough to just about scrape survival. With the lower points total at the bottom of the league, you'd expect a higher total at the other end....
lumuah Posted May 25 Author Posted May 25 On 24/02/2025 at 13:33, lumuah said: After the last game : RECORD CONFIRMED: Relegated with the most remaining games left (7) Most defeats in a season: 30 Biggest margin between a relegated team and survival: 26 Fewest home points in a season: 6 JOINT RECORD CONFIRMED: Lowest 'top scorer': 4 (Paul Onuachu 4) Most away defeats in a season: 15 Most home defeats in a season: 15 Fewest home wins in a season: 1 CLOSE BUT NOT QUITE S*** ENOUGH: Fewest points in a season: 11 (12) Worst home goal difference in a season: −38 (-34) 8 records from this season I know of, 4 of them we don't even have to share with any other side! 1 1
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