Saints 1-0 Sheff Utd - Match Thread

[Turkish]

19 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

What an absolute fucking clown this guy is. Swear he’s just trolling now, no one could accidentally be this much of a cunt surely 

Clearly a troll. Possibly another one of Gios logins. Same know it all posting style, same way of talking absolutely bollocks, same disappearing act when the opposite of what he promotes happens. Meanwhile Gios posts have dropped off whilst Fabrice has become more prolific. 🤔

[tisspahars]

Reading this thread reminds me of my favourite unwritten forum rule - if you post "Get those insurance bets on now!"...."You just KNOW we are going to rue those missed chances"....."No way we win this without another goal" etc and you are right you get to say "See, told ya!"....but if you are completely wrong you just wait till you can do it again next time.

[leesaint88]

57 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

guys missed the game but good to see all the team and selection and formation changes we've been talking about finally smacked tonda in the face.

Would like Charles for Downes next but think sun too early.

Gonna need a pic of Danny Ings hair, missed it's progress since he left us, you are all giving me the impression of it being a cricket pitch with a bit of grass on top.

Receding faster than a Ferrari in reverse. Even Turkey hasn't saved it.. 

[Fabrice29]

7 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Weird how we managed to do that better than every other game during this run when we changed the formation. Odd how that works.

 

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Oh look he reappears 😂😂😂

 

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Formations don’t matter mate 

funny how he’s piped up after a win. 😂

 

28 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Well, here he is.... only after a win..... what a helmet

 

20 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Yep- What an absolute fucking clown this guy is. Swear he’s just trolling now, no one could accidentally be this much of a cunt surely 

Morning all 👋

We had more shots and more shots on target on Saturday than last night. I thought we looked reasonable in both games. If you want to believe last night was all about a formation change then good for you. That’ll make you feel good until we lose with that formation at least. Then it’ll be something else (what happened to the experience chatter anyway?).

I’m just going to carry on saying what I see which last night was a deflected goal go in and us not give away any silly goals. That’s the difference for me right now. Nice to see a different profile of striker too, which I’ve been calling for ages as well. Will be nice to transfer in a striker who is more reliable and a defender we know who can do what we did last night consistently (because none of you really believe Stephen’s in a back 4 is the thing we’ve been crying out for all this time).

Also, I’m not sure 3 days of not posting then a response to all the little digs on the forum is the big comeback you guys think it is, but thanks for the welcome back anyway 😂 

[Fabrice29]

6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Clearly a troll. Possibly another one of Gios logins. Same know it all posting style, same way of talking absolutely bollocks, same disappearing act when the opposite of what he promotes happens. Meanwhile Gios posts have dropped off whilst Fabrice has become more prolific. 🤔

I’m someone different every single week to you 😂

[Sir Ralph]

8 hours ago, woodsaint1 said:

4 4 fucking 2 and hey presto, we look much more solid and organised

Its mad that its taken this long and the amount of goals we've conceded for TE to realise that 3 CBs has not been working for us. That being said it would not surprise me if he reverts to that at the weekend 🤯

Seen it mentioned that the CBs looked more comfortable. No wonder when they've played 90% of their careers in a four with full backs who tuck in and offer cover. 3 CBs works for certain teams with certain players, but we dont have those players.

Lets get a win on Sunday now 💪🏼

Says a lot about either Tonda's understanding of football or his belligerence in sticking to 3 at the back for so long. Unfortunately a theme of younger modern day coaches - seems as though they have a theory and stick to it regardless of the consequence. Give me Sean Dyche any day. 

Last night proved that we need another target man to change our style of play when Stewart is injured. SE should have had one ready to obtain early in the window and I dont understand what they are waiting for.

Edited 9 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[tdmickey3]

10 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

I’m someone different every single week to you 😂

You are someone different everyday...in your own head

[Barton Saint]

So so so much better simple really..

Only got a bit nervy the last few minutes with the front subs not doing enough 

But the referee and the clown in front of the Itchen were shocking!

[pingpong]

Not convinced the formation had much impact tbh.  We still only scored one goal which was a wicked deflection.  We still.gave the opposition 2 or 3 clear-cut chances and still looked lost at the back at times.  GK distribution got us into trouble a few times but weren't punished.

Last night everything fell our way, Saturday we got punished.

Hopefully the points will lead to a surge in confidence, but let's not pretend the formation made us look in any way solid.

[Fabrice29]

9 minutes ago, pingpong said:

Not convinced the formation had much impact tbh.  We still only scored one goal which was a wicked deflection.  We still.gave the opposition 2 or 3 clear-cut chances and still looked lost at the back at times.  GK distribution got us into trouble a few times but weren't punished.

Last night everything fell our way, Saturday we got punished.

Hopefully the points will lead to a surge in confidence, but let's not pretend the formation made us look in any way solid.

Christ you’ll be accused of being a laundry man with that sensible take.

 

16 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

You are someone different everyday...in your own head

Go back to the Harry Enfield picture with the incorrect quote. That’s some of your best stuff.

Edited 9 hours ago by Fabrice29

[AlexLaw76]

I’m surprised we won, xG stats and the fact formations do not make a different, and all that

[badgerx16]

We got the rub of the green in beating a poor side by a single deflected goal. We are miles off the standard required to reach the playoffs.

[tdmickey3]

9 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Christ you’ll be accused of being a laundry man with that sensible take.

 

Go back to the Harry Enfield picture with the incorrect quote. That’s some of your best stuff.

👍

[Turkish]

48 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

 

 

 

 

Morning all 👋

We had more shots and more shots on target on Saturday than last night. I thought we looked reasonable in both games. If you want to believe last night was all about a formation change then good for you. That’ll make you feel good until we lose with that formation at least. Then it’ll be something else (what happened to the experience chatter anyway?).

I’m just going to carry on saying what I see which last night was a deflected goal go in and us not give away any silly goals. That’s the difference for me right now. Nice to see a different profile of striker too, which I’ve been calling for ages as well. Will be nice to transfer in a striker who is more reliable and a defender we know who can do what we did last night consistently (because none of you really believe Stephen’s in a back 4 is the thing we’ve been crying out for all this time).

Also, I’m not sure 3 days of not posting then a response to all the little digs on the forum is the big comeback you guys think it is, but thanks for the welcome back anyway 😂 

Oh bless, had no idea you were so sensitive. Everything okay at home?

[OldNick]

52 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Says a lot about either Tonda's understanding of football or his belligerence in sticking to 3 at the back for so long. Unfortunately a theme of younger modern day coaches - seems as though they have a theory and stick to it regardless of the consequence. Give me Sean Dyche any day. 

Last night proved that we need another target man to change our style of play when Stewart is injured. SE should have had one ready to obtain early in the window and I dont understand what they are waiting for.

To be fair to Tonda, he hasnt had the big forward, the same goes for Still,when RS was availible and playing we looked very good. what is so annoying is the recruitment team dont seem to be targeting a big strong forward who can hold the ball and link the play.

[OldNick]

46 minutes ago, pingpong said:

Not convinced the formation had much impact tbh.  We still only scored one goal which was a wicked deflection.  We still.gave the opposition 2 or 3 clear-cut chances and still looked lost at the back at times.  GK distribution got us into trouble a few times but weren't punished.

Last night everything fell our way, Saturday we got punished.

Hopefully the points will lead to a surge in confidence, but let's not pretend the formation made us look in any way solid.

I dont agree, the formation made the players look more comfortable, Stphens and THB each took responsibility to challenge fro the ball. We didnt have the endless passing the ball along the back 3, but were playing the ball forward in a positive fashion. Flynn played the best he has for a long time and again he didnt kep feeding it back as he had a few more options forward. Ross made a massive difference and had been availible more this season we would be so much better placed. He challenged and won headers, giving their defence more to worry about, hence the last 30 minutes with AA up front they took control as we had no outlet. The keeper did what hes supposed to do by saving to get us points (his kicking is poor but surely even our coaches can help him there) He was constantly shouting and organising something we badly needed. Fir the first time in a long time I saw JS actually being a captain, berating andencouraging players when they had done well. 

Sunday is slightly less daunting but we will see in the first 10 minutes if the players can hold up to the intense pressure FP will bring. Sadly at ours we were flat and made their day very easy

[WALK DMC]

36 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

We got the rub of the green in beating a poor side by a single deflected goal. We are miles off the standard required to reach the playoffs.

I agree, however the team were clearly lacking in confidence, so if we can get a run going then I think further improvements will be seen.

We've missed Charles so it will be a big plus to get him back. He has more height and physicality than our other midfield players and can even held to defend set pieces.

I'm not blindly optimistic, but i thought that the performance yesterday was an improvement and if we'd taken one of our other chances it could have been relatively comfortable.

[Osvaldorama]

7 minutes ago, OldNick said:

I dont agree, the formation made the players look more comfortable, Stphens and THB each took responsibility to challenge fro the ball. We didnt have the endless passing the ball along the back 3, but were playing the ball forward in a positive fashion. Flynn played the best he has for a long time and again he didnt kep feeding it back as he had a few more options forward. Ross made a massive difference and had been availible more this season we would be so much better placed. He challenged and won headers, giving their defence more to worry about, hence the last 30 minutes with AA up front they took control as we had no outlet. The keeper did what hes supposed to do by saving to get us points (his kicking is poor but surely even our coaches can help him there) He was constantly shouting and organising something we badly needed. Fir the first time in a long time I saw JS actually being a captain, berating andencouraging players when they had done well. 

Sunday is slightly less daunting but we will see in the first 10 minutes if the players can hold up to the intense pressure FP will bring. Sadly at ours we were flat and made their day very easy

Yep the formation played a huge difference. 
 

Fellows higher up, Wellington at LB. Scienza hugging the touchline with an actual physical presence holding the ball up. 
 

Anyone that thinks this formation didn’t improve us is on the wind up. 
 

[OldNick]

43 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

We got the rub of the green in beating a poor side by a single deflected goal. We are miles off the standard required to reach the playoffs.

Oh come on you arent usually this down on the team. The team were lacking confidence and nervous, give them a break as this hopefully is a start to an improved run. Ross is a very important part of that. A clean sheet was a great positive and sunday will show if there are green shoots, just a shame we have this game now and not in a few weeks

[Fabrice29]

8 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Yep the formation played a huge difference. 
 

Fellows higher up, Wellington at LB. Scienza hugging the touchline with an actual physical presence holding the ball up. 
 

Anyone that thinks this formation didn’t improve us is on the wind up. 
 

Of the four things you’ve quoted here as making a difference, two are player changes. I’ll just about give you Fellows playing higher up but Scienza game last night was no different to normal. He’s at his most threatening being fed the ball wide and cutting inside. Same role he plays in both formations. If Bamford scored at the end or Scienza’s shot is deflected wide, I can assure you people would not be talking about how the formation made a massive difference. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Fabrice29

[Whitey Grandad]

1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

Of the four things you’ve quoted here as making a difference, two are player changes. I’ll just about give you Fellows playing higher up but Scienza game last night was no different to normal. He’s at his most threatening being fed the ball wide and cutting inside. Same role he plays in both formations. If Bamford scored at the end or Scienza’s shot is deflected wide, I can assure you people would not be talking about how the formation made a massive difference. 

That's a big if.

We had several chances each of which was clearer than the one where we scored. 

[OldNick]

5 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Of the four things you’ve quoted here as making a difference, two are player changes. I’ll just about give you Fellows playing higher up but Scienza game last night was no different to normal. He’s at his most threatening being fed the ball wide and cutting inside. Same role he plays in both formations. If Bamford scored at the end or Scienza’s shot is deflected wide, I can assure you people would not be talking about how the formation made a massive difference. 

Oh come on if if if, if Scienzas shot had not gone in other opportunities would have come about. You are going to die on the hill of formation it seems. The team were better and more solid, their 2 major chances were created by our mistakes, Peretz bad kick to Jelert and THB and Jelert both going to the same ball allowing Bamford through. 

Edited 8 hours ago by OldNick

[Football Special]

Is this us back in the play off race? 

 

[Whitey Grandad]

21 minutes ago, OldNick said:

I dont agree, the formation made the players look more comfortable, Stphens and THB each took responsibility to challenge fro the ball. We didnt have the endless passing the ball along the back 3, but were playing the ball forward in a positive fashion. Flynn played the best he has for a long time and again he didnt kep feeding it back as he had a few more options forward. Ross made a massive difference and had been availible more this season we would be so much better placed. He challenged and won headers, giving their defence more to worry about, hence the last 30 minutes with AA up front they took control as we had no outlet. The keeper did what hes supposed to do by saving to get us points (his kicking is poor but surely even our coaches can help him there) He was constantly shouting and organising something we badly needed. Fir the first time in a long time I saw JS actually being a captain, berating andencouraging players when they had done well. 

Sunday is slightly less daunting but we will see in the first 10 minutes if the players can hold up to the intense pressure FP will bring. Sadly at ours we were flat and made their day very easy

Stephens didn't make his customary howlers which was refreshing. 

He didn't act the captain though when the referee went out of his way to warn him about Scienza's hissy fits when his play acting didn't earn him a free kick. Stephens just nodded and then carried on. 

[OldNick]

2 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Is this us back in the play off race? 

 

Interesting that the majority of the teams just above us were deemed to be useless by the football intelligensia on here when we got positive results against them. 

[Whitey Grandad]

2 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Oh come on if if if, if Scienzas shot had not gone in other opportunities would have come about. You are going to die on the hill of formation it seems. The team were better and more solid, their 2 major chances were created by our mistakes, Peretz bad kick to Jelert and THB and Jelert both going to the same ball allowing Bamford through. 

I've noticed that sort of thing a lot lately.  Two of our players getting in each other's way, even colliding at times. This is something that you never see in professional football and I can't remember it ever happening when I played Sunday morning football. 

[OldNick]

2 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Stephens didn't make his customary howlers which was refreshing. 

He didn't act the captain though when the referee went out of his way to warn him about Scienza's hissy fits when his play acting didn't earn him a free kick. Stephens just nodded and then carried on. 

I didnt notice that but he may well have said something when play started again. Im sure Scienza knew the situation nd to be fair the ref didnt give him much and the time he did go off on one he was wronged.

[OldNick]

Just now, Whitey Grandad said:

I've noticed that sort of thing a lot lately.  Two of our players getting in each other's way, even colliding at times. This is something that you never see in professional football and I can't remember it ever happening when I played Sunday morning football. 

Probably too slow to get in each others way and as you were the ref Im sure it was unlikely 😀

Do you not recall that mazy goal we scored against WBA where the 2 players colided, or Pompeys keeper this season. I do agree THB has this in his locker as a few times hes done it, away at Villa the glaring one

[Pamplemousse]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

We got the rub of the green in beating a poor side by a single deflected goal. We are miles off the standard required to reach the playoffs.

Last time we won a tight game in midweek by one goal, we went on a nice winning run.

A win and a clean sheet more important than the performance tbh. Hopefully we can push on and look forward.

[Fabrice29]

17 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

That's a big if.

We had several chances each of which was clearer than the one where we scored. 

 

15 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Oh come on if if if, if Scienzas shot had not gone in other opportunities would have come about. You are going to die on the hill of formation it seems. The team were better and more solid, their 2 major chances were created by our mistakes, Peretz bad kick to Jelert and THB and Jelert both going to the same ball allowing Bamford through. 

I’m not dying on any hill. I think there are obvious tactical benefits for different formations but I’d much rather we as a team, squad, club address some of the underlying issues that it’s faced for a while now. We defended in a four two years ago and conceded lots. It’s not the formation that is making us give away silly goals. It’s not the formation that has us as a really wasteful team. 

Yes, we missed chances yesterday. We missed chances Saturday. We missed chances against Boro. We also gave away silly goals and will give away silly goals in a 4 too. 

It’s not a hill I’m dying on, it’s just pointing out the underlying issues will raise its head in whatever formation we like eventually. But if we have to go through more managers, systems and styles to eventually get there then at least I can continue to be so popular on here 😂

[Fabrice29]

23 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Stephens didn't make his customary howlers which was refreshing. 

He didn't act the captain though when the referee went out of his way to warn him about Scienza's hissy fits when his play acting didn't earn him a free kick. Stephens just nodded and then carried on. 

He absolutely did say something to Scienza. He shouted and pointed to his head to think about his actions. 

[Fabrice29]

2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Your posting style is very transparent. You portray a narrative that the club is fine, and the people who are moaning or criticising are absolute idiots and deserve ridicule by your entitled posting style. 

So when the opposite of what you portray happens, i.e. we continue to lose, you go somewhat quiet. As soon as we win, and by the way it was a crappy win, you're back with your entitled 'you're all idiots' approach. It's so transparent and clear. You're not a fan, I don't know who you are, or what your agenda is, but I do know that you're an absolute weirdo.

We’ve been losing for weeks, I’ve called the owner terrible on here in that time and been told by people (including you I think?) to stop posting so much 😂 Somewhat quiet ffs 😂

[DT]

I only caught the last ten minutes, which was basically pinball hoofing and no-one with any composure.

What I do know is this though - when we allowed them that chance from Banford, if a certain other goalkeeper had been in the sticks, they would have scored. Old Tefal hands Bazunu would have contrived to have dived 'near' it. Good to have a decent keeper (seemingly) finally, who has something about him.

Good also to see Shea back. Hopefully will force us to drop or sell Flynn Sideways.

[Fabrice29]

7 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

 

I’m not dying on any hill. I think there are obvious tactical benefits for different formations but I’d much rather we as a team, squad, club address some of the underlying issues that it’s faced for a while now. We defended in a four two years ago and conceded lots. It’s not the formation that is making us give away silly goals. It’s not the formation that has us as a really wasteful team. 

Yes, we missed chances yesterday. We missed chances Saturday. We missed chances against Boro. We also gave away silly goals and will give away silly goals in a 4 too. 

It’s not a hill I’m dying on, it’s just pointing out the underlying issues will raise its head in whatever formation we like eventually. But if we have to go through more managers, systems and styles to eventually get there then at least I can continue to be so popular on here 😂

Sorry, what I meant to say was ‘club is fine’ 

[kitch]

Fucking hell, can't you two get a room or something?

[lambtiss]

12 hours ago, Jack said:

100% and up against a bloke nearly a foot taller. Commitment, was great to see. Hope Manning was taking notes 

I hope Manning stays on the bench 

[Jack]

3 hours ago, Football Special said:

One more point on support, loads of season ticket holders decided to stay at home, understandable with our form on a cold damp January night , but felt to me that those who did make the effort to turn up made the most of it getting behind the team. Maybe it was a response to a better formation , more attacking play and desire from our team but also helped not having some of the usual moaners around us I think 

I’m a Northam ST holder and thought it was completely flat again last night. Like you say, any noise going on was mostly positive, obviously helped by taking an early lead. Had the game gone the other way it would’ve been another Preston/Hull response from the fans I think. If we’d started a back 5 I think it would’ve been negative from the very start. Lots of people voting with their feet, think the manager and SR are still on very very thin ice 

[Whitey Grandad]

31 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

He absolutely did say something to Scienza. He shouted and pointed to his head to think about his actions. 

Fair enough. I didn't see that at the time. 

[Toadhall Saint]

2 hours ago, pingpong said:

Not convinced the formation had much impact tbh.  We still only scored one goal which was a wicked deflection.  We still.gave the opposition 2 or 3 clear-cut chances and still looked lost at the back at times.  GK distribution got us into trouble a few times but weren't punished.

Last night everything fell our way, Saturday we got punished.

Hopefully the points will lead to a surge in confidence, but let's not pretend the formation made us look in any way solid.

Created a boat load tho. 

[Whitey Grandad]

33 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

 

I’m not dying on any hill. I think there are obvious tactical benefits for different formations but I’d much rather we as a team, squad, club address some of the underlying issues that it’s faced for a while now. We defended in a four two years ago and conceded lots. It’s not the formation that is making us give away silly goals. It’s not the formation that has us as a really wasteful team. 

Yes, we missed chances yesterday. We missed chances Saturday. We missed chances against Boro. We also gave away silly goals and will give away silly goals in a 4 too. 

It’s not a hill I’m dying on, it’s just pointing out the underlying issues will raise its head in whatever formation we like eventually. But if we have to go through more managers, systems and styles to eventually get there then at least I can continue to be so popular on here 😂

That may be where we see things differently.  A back five shifts our centre of gravity back towards our own goal. If reduces our presence in midfield and encourages the sort of passing back to our goalkeeper that can so easily go wrong. This is a relatively modern fad that will eventually die a natural death along with all the other hipster trends.

[Jack]

1 minute ago, Whitey Grandad said:

That may be where we see things differently.  A back five shifts our centre of gravity back towards our own goal. If reduces our presence in midfield and encourages the sort of passing back to our goalkeeper that can so easily go wrong. This is a relatively modern fad that will eventually die a natural death along with all the other hipster trends.

Let’s hope so, because our new keeper is pretty useless with his feet. I’m seeing it as a positive as it means we won’t try to use him as a 6th defender, he needs instructions just to punt it up the pitch if in any doubt. Hopefully less of those long kicks will be straight out for a throw in as we saw last night, and at least he seems more capable using his hands 

[Give it to Ron]

4 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

That may be where we see things differently.  A back five shifts our centre of gravity back towards our own goal. If reduces our presence in midfield and encourages the sort of passing back to our goalkeeper that can so easily go wrong. This is a relatively modern fad that will eventually die a natural death along with all the other hipster trends.

Exactly how I see it too look at Manning on Saturday in a flat back 4 I don’t think he makes that pass all the way back he has another option forward or midfield in front of him.

It helped us having Stewart as target man no doubt but 30k fans have seen that for years and been asking for one

[Osvaldorama]

16 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

That may be where we see things differently.  A back five shifts our centre of gravity back towards our own goal. If reduces our presence in midfield and encourages the sort of passing back to our goalkeeper that can so easily go wrong. This is a relatively modern fad that will eventually die a natural death along with all the other hipster trends.

Everyone sees this except the WUM. 
 

 

[The Wyvern]

38 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Is this us back in the play off race? 

 

It’s a poor league this year and we should have been able to make the play offs comfortably. 

[Fabrice29]

19 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

That may be where we see things differently.  A back five shifts our centre of gravity back towards our own goal. If reduces our presence in midfield and encourages the sort of passing back to our goalkeeper that can so easily go wrong. This is a relatively modern fad that will eventually die a natural death along with all the other hipster trends.

I don’t actually disagree (the first bit, the natural death stuff happens to all tactics whether ‘hipster’ or not). Naturally having a player at the back to pass to rather than elsewhere will encourage passing it at the back and so okay, you change that and that option goes.

But would also point out that not having the smallest attack in the league is probably helpful in not passing backwards. Everything has to be so precise without someone to aim for and get us out of trouble. Player profiles on the pitch are more important imo. I’m sure we’ll play a four at some stage with Armstrong starting and find ourselves having little to pass to again and recycling possession. It’s why we should be so desperate to recruit a bigger striker. 

[AlexLaw76]

I see Tonda mentioned we could play a back 4 as we replaced the height at the back with height up top

🙃😂

[Convict Colony]

10 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

It’s a poor league this year and we should have been able to make the play offs comfortably. 

it's all a plan to win the most improved award

[saintant]

1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said:

Of the four things you’ve quoted here as making a difference, two are player changes. I’ll just about give you Fellows playing higher up but Scienza game last night was no different to normal. He’s at his most threatening being fed the ball wide and cutting inside. Same role he plays in both formations. If Bamford scored at the end or Scienza’s shot is deflected wide, I can assure you people would not be talking about how the formation made a massive difference. 

Or if Azaz doesn't miss a tap in and Scienza doesn't put an easy header straight at the 'keeper. Easy to be selective to suit your own agenda. The formation made a difference with less sideways negative passing between 3 centre backs, two wide men hugging the touchline, an extra body in midfield and Stewart leading the line winning headers and holding the ball up. It wasn't perfect but stick with it and we'll get better. You carry on going on about formations making no difference, it's an opinion you're entitled to but one that's clearly not shared by the majority - and I get that you won't be at all bothered by that.

[Fabrice29]

9 minutes ago, saintant said:

Or if Azaz doesn't miss a tap in and Scienza doesn't put an easy header straight at the 'keeper. 

These things happened when playing 5 at the back just recently and they didn’t happen when we went on that winning run earlier when playing 5 at the back. That’s exactly my point 😂

Edited 6 hours ago by Fabrice29

[saintant]

3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

These things happened when playing 5 at the back just recently. That’s my point 😂

Of course they did - doesn't mean you can use it as proof that formation changes make no difference.