Colinjb Posted yesterday at 13:17 Posted yesterday at 13:17 4 hours ago, capitalsaint said: I don’t hate blue away kits, but what I can’t stand is this monotone use of the badge. It looks naff with the detail scrubbed out. When done well, it can work... 2
CSA96 Posted yesterday at 14:06 Posted yesterday at 14:06 Confirmed, the actual shirt is on FootyHeadlines today 3 1
Mozz Posted yesterday at 14:10 Posted yesterday at 14:10 If footy headlines are reporting it I have no doubt it’s the actual the shirt, but I’m 99% the images are the same as from the other leak, just cut out from the previous background.
Badger Posted yesterday at 15:08 Posted yesterday at 15:08 18 minutes ago, ally_uk said: https://ibb.co/dJbFrdc9 Not belittling your efforts by any means, but if you can come up with these designs (even those copying earlier kits), why can’t the manufacturers, or the club adopt something better than the shit they’ve agreed ? 3
trousers Posted yesterday at 15:48 Posted yesterday at 15:48 (edited) 11 hours ago, capitalsaint said: I don’t hate blue away kits, but what I can’t stand is this monotone use of the badge. It looks naff with the detail scrubbed out. Agree. There's no reason not to use the full-colour logo on any kit, unless you're some smart-arse tone-deaf twat that thinks a monochrome logo is somehow cool or trendy. Does any other club engage in such self-indulgent stupidity? Whilst that away kit design is a bit of harmless fun, the illegible monochromatic logo and shit-fest back-panel detract from what could be a decent quirky kit. Aaaaand.... Relax.... Edited yesterday at 20:07 by trousers 1
Badger Posted yesterday at 16:08 Posted yesterday at 16:08 All a matter of opinion but for me the mono colour crest is the least of my concerns. The design and the ridiculous back panel render discussion about the crest pointless. the design is more important, after who will be wearing it of course. Get the team right and I don’t suppose we’ll care too much if the change kit is them playing in their underpants. (In answer to Trousers question I’m pretty sure others have done this with the badge it, but can’t recall who or when).
CSA96 Posted yesterday at 16:11 Posted yesterday at 16:11 20 minutes ago, trousers said: Agree. There's no reason not to use the full-colour logo on any kit, unless you're some smart-arse tone-deaf twat that thinks a monochrome logo is somehow cool or trendy. Does anyone other club engage in such self-indulgent stupidity? Whilst that away kit design is a bit of harmless fun, the illegible monochromatic logo and shit-fest back-panel detract from what could be a decent quirky kit. Aaaaand.... Relax.... Chelsea? Think they do it pretty often. I think a lot of the clubs, certainly the top English clubs (Arsenal, City, Liverpool, United), have been using mono crests in recent years
stknowle Posted yesterday at 17:19 Posted yesterday at 17:19 3 hours ago, CSA96 said: Confirmed, the actual shirt is on FootyHeadlines today Fucking hideous. Sees that awful wave effort from the Ralph/Jones/Selles relegation season and raises it. Third kit wants to be decent or it’s a no from me this year, won’t be buying the above or the 1 star boring home shirt. 3
bpsaint Posted yesterday at 17:21 Posted yesterday at 17:21 (edited) 2 hours ago, ally_uk said: https://ibb.co/dJbFrdc9 That would have sold tens of thousands. Imagine the yellow version as the third kit. Genuinely baffled how the club fuck it up so much year after year. Edited yesterday at 17:22 by bpsaint 5
mss636 Posted yesterday at 17:42 Posted yesterday at 17:42 The simple solution is to not buy it. But I remember similar disgust at the pink shirt before everyone decided they liked it after all and it still sold out. FWIW I loved last years kits, this season home is ok and that away is truly disgusting! (Also for full colour badge and stripes on the back)
Badger Posted yesterday at 18:01 Posted yesterday at 18:01 37 minutes ago, bpsaint said: That would have sold tens of thousands. Imagine the yellow version as the third kit. Genuinely baffled how the club fuck it up so much year after year. This is where FAB should come into play and rattle a few at the club, if they have anything about them or serve any purpose. But they probably won’t. Imagine they’re too inclined to just nod along to whatever they’re told, and be grateful the club listen to them on whether the concourse should stock Quavers and Wagon Wheels. 3
ally_uk Posted yesterday at 18:49 Posted yesterday at 18:49 1 hour ago, bpsaint said: That would have sold tens of thousands. Imagine the yellow version as the third kit. Genuinely baffled how the club fuck it up so much year after year. Scroll back up in the thread I created the Yellow one it looks shit hot 👍
Badger Posted yesterday at 19:00 Posted yesterday at 19:00 9 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Scroll back up in the thread I created the Yellow one it looks shit hot 👍 There were a few on display at the SF, looked really good. Put a lot of modern efforts to shame.
Badger Posted yesterday at 19:04 Posted yesterday at 19:04 1 hour ago, bpsaint said: That would have sold tens of thousands. Imagine the yellow version as the third kit. Genuinely baffled how the club fuck it up so much year after year. Even Rupert Lowe invited supporters input in the kit selection. Possibly a lot easier when it’s produced in house, but I doubt we’d end up with the crap we’re served up with if fans views are canvassed. For me a feature on a striped shirt is ‘stripes on the back?’. If that’s not available then I’d sadly be inclined to scrap the stripes altogether.
RedArmy Posted yesterday at 19:40 Posted yesterday at 19:40 35 minutes ago, Badger said: Even Rupert Lowe invited supporters input in the kit selection. Possibly a lot easier when it’s produced in house, but I doubt we’d end up with the crap we’re served up with if fans views are canvassed. For me a feature on a striped shirt is ‘stripes on the back?’. If that’s not available then I’d sadly be inclined to scrap the stripes altogether. Didn’t some bloke on here design our kits once?
Badger Posted yesterday at 21:14 Posted yesterday at 21:14 1 hour ago, RedArmy said: Didn’t some bloke on here design our kits once? Not sure, I recall Gecko did some badge designs. He might have been involved in the shirts at one point.
Polaroid Saint Posted yesterday at 21:19 Posted yesterday at 21:19 5 hours ago, trousers said: Agree. There's no reason not to use the full-colour logo on any kit, unless you're some smart-arse tone-deaf twat that thinks a monochrome logo is somehow cool or trendy. Does any other club engage in such self-indulgent stupidity? Whilst that away kit design is a bit of harmless fun, the illegible monochromatic logo and shit-fest back-panel detract from what could be a decent quirky kit. Aaaaand.... Relax.... I feel seen. 🤣 And somewhat chastened, but I do still like the idea a colour block kit. 1
JohnnyShearer2.0 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 2 hours ago, CSA96 said: Front looks ace. The red block on the back. Why o why do Saints do it? It looked absolutely shit at the back. 2
bpsaint Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 9 hours ago, Badger said: Not sure, I recall Gecko did some badge designs. He might have been involved in the shirts at one point. Pretty sure he designed the kits for the 06/07 season.
JCBSaint Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 7 hours ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said: Front looks ace. The red block on the back. Why o why do Saints do it? It looked absolutely shit at the back. Ditto! Every season for the last 10 years or so we get a plain back , every year that happens I don’t get a shirt, just my lil protest. I use my remake of the old rank xerox one that was reinvented. Now that’s the only kit that we should alternate from proper stripes in my opinion, just to freshen things up now and then. Away kits , for me yellow and blue it’s just a colour that obviously has history for us but more importantly those colours could mean we just need two kits each season, design can be a bit inventive for that aslong as it’s something people wd want to buy.Not against a two year cycle either maybe change home and away alternatively aswell so fans aren’t having to fork too much each season. 3
Badger Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 43 minutes ago, JCBSaint said: Ditto! Every season for the last 10 years or so we get a plain back , every year that happens I don’t get a shirt, just my lil protest. I use my remake of the old rank xerox one that was reinvented. Now that’s the only kit that we should alternate from proper stripes in my opinion, just to freshen things up now and then. Away kits , for me yellow and blue it’s just a colour that obviously has history for us but more importantly those colours could mean we just need two kits each season, design can be a bit inventive for that aslong as it’s something people wd want to buy.Not against a two year cycle either maybe change home and away alternatively aswell so fans aren’t having to fork too much each season. Far too much I agree with, and common sense expressed here to register with those making decisions. If we can’t have a full striped kit then I’d like the Rank Xerox to become the standard default kit. With the sash reserved for anniversaries! Away kit - for me should be amber and black, but accept yellow and blue seems indelibly set for many. Don’t mind if that is varied with navy/yellow (as 2010/11) or stripes as last season. Third kit - I like the red and black, or sky/navy (again, Rank Xerox era)but should give some licence for the club to bugger about and vary it. Within reason. So no Japanese wallpaper designs or psychedelic ‘far out,man’ crap (2022/3 and this year). Two year cycle, good idea, but commercially the club and manufacturers probably wouldn’t suppory that.
CB Fry Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 29 minutes ago, Badger said: Away kit - for me should be amber and black When have we ever worn amber and black? I'm late 40s and to me this colour scheme means nothing in the context of SFC. Edited 14 hours ago by CB Fry
Badger Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 28 minutes ago, CB Fry said: When have we ever worn amber and black? I'm late 40s and to me this colour scheme means nothing in the context of SFC. As far as I’m aware through the 60’s and early 70’s until 1973/4 when it changed to yellow and blue. I was told in the 70’s that the amber and black was chosen as this was the colours of the Hampshire Regiment, although later read that we borrowed a kit from the regiment that was burgundy and blue. No idea of the source of this although Fitzhugh might expand on the story. Yellow and Blue was nothing unique to Saints and just followed a 70’s fashion trend at the time. This had previously been the away strip of Man Utd, Chelsea and Everton (and they’re the only ones I can recall, probably more) in the previous couple of seasons. I’ve tried finding footage of Saints in amber and black, but the majority of clips are black and white. This includes away v Man Utd (Ron Davies in his prime), Arsenal on Boxing Day (Eric Martin’s best game ?) , and York City in Cup.
BarberSaint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 10 hours ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said: Front looks ace. The red block on the back. Why o why do Saints do it? It looked absolutely shit at the back. It looks like a bib. All the time, I just wondered why they were wearing bibs. It's awful.
CB Fry Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, Badger said: As far as I’m aware through the 60’s and early 70’s until 1973/4 when it changed to yellow and blue. I was told in the 70’s that the amber and black was chosen as this was the colours of the Hampshire Regiment, although later read that we borrowed a kit from the regiment that was burgundy and blue. No idea of the source of this although Fitzhugh might expand on the story. Yellow and Blue was nothing unique to Saints and just followed a 70’s fashion trend at the time. This had previously been the away strip of Man Utd, Chelsea and Everton (and they’re the only ones I can recall, probably more) in the previous couple of seasons. I’ve tried finding footage of Saints in amber and black, but the majority of clips are black and white. This includes away v Man Utd (Ron Davies in his prime), Arsenal on Boxing Day (Eric Martin’s best game ?) , and York City in Cup. Fair enough, I had no idea. Interesting it has never been revived even once by the various kit brands in the intervening 50 years. Not even as a third kit. Hence my curiosity. I've lived through pure fashion biege/cream/pink kits, I have gone along with "Solent green" being a thing (loved it second time round too) there's been spitfire and other sea references. But never amber and black. Maybe we just don't want to look like Wolves or Hull. I think the fact that our greatest day (itself 50 years ago and before even I was born) was in yellow and blue means that will be our go-to scheme for the foreseeable.
Badger Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 28 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Fair enough, I had no idea. Interesting it has never been revived even once by the various kit brands in the intervening 50 years. Not even as a third kit. Hence my curiosity. I've lived through pure fashion biege/cream/pink kits, I have gone along with "Solent green" being a thing (loved it second time round too) there's been spitfire and other sea references. But never amber and black. Maybe we just don't want to look like Wolves or Hull. I think the fact that our greatest day (itself 50 years ago and before even I was born) was in yellow and blue means that will be our go-to scheme for the foreseeable. Yes, you’re right it’s not been revived. Probably because it has been supplanted by the yellow/blue combination, especially among you youngsters! I doubt the club will look to have an amber kit along with a yellow/ blue creation the same season. I’d forgotten the Solent green. I liked it second time round, kit was quite nice. In fact we’ve had a couple of decent white away or third shirts (Wembley 2017, and the FA Cup shirt v Coventry a few years back). Im not against the changes and experiments (within reason), but just don’t fuck up the home kit please ! Edited 11 hours ago by Badger 1
Kenilworthy1959 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Badger said: Yes, you’re right it’s not been revived. Probably because it has been supplanted by the yellow/blue combination, especially among you youngsters! I doubt the club will look to have an amber kit along with a yellow/ blue creation the same season. I’d forgotten the Solent green. I liked it second time round, kit was quite nice. In fact we’ve had a couple of decent white away or third shirts (Wembley 2017, and the FA Cup shirt v Coventry a few years back). Im not against the changes and experiments (within reason), but just don’t fuck up the home kit please ! To be very pedantic. It was old gold and black rather than amber. You can see an example here 1970-1972 I guess one reason for not reviving it is that the shorts would be the same colour as the home kit. So it would work perfectly if we went back to blue shorts.
Badger Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, Kenilworthy1959 said: To be very pedantic. It was old gold and black rather than amber. You can see an example here 1970-1972 I guess one reason for not reviving it is that the shorts would be the same colour as the home kit. So it would work perfectly if we went back to blue shorts. I can see the similarity but don’t recall it being called old gold at the time. Wolves were known to wear ‘old gold’ but our second strip was largely described as amber. Image of Hugh Fisher below (looks close to Wolves shade) Big Ron… as I remember the colours :
Maggie May Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 18 hours ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said: Front looks ace. The red block on the back. Why o why do Saints do it? It looked absolutely shit at the back. Isn’t it league requirement to have a block colour on the back?
JohnnyShearer2.0 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Maggie May said: Isn’t it league requirement to have a block colour on the back? Seems like it. Make it blocked for players and normal for fans!
ally_uk Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago https://ibb.co/Jjh6cmJk https://ibb.co/SXDq4mM5 https://ibb.co/YFNwL2KY https://ibb.co/jYbxkP0 My final designs for this season I did two away Kits blue and yellow one. Third kit is the white and red, It has a subtle waves design on the back of the shirt.
Kenilworthy1959 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago In "Saints a complete record" for the 1950-51 season it refers to an FA Cup game at Roker Park "Saints wore amber jerseys and black shorts for the first time. They borrowed the kit from the Hampshire Regiment." But in the programme for the 1963 FA Cup semi-final it refers to Southampton wearing old gold shirts. So I guess amber and old gold were regarded as interchangeable terms. 1
Badger Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Kenilworthy1959 said: In "Saints a complete record" for the 1950-51 season it refers to an FA Cup game at Roker Park "Saints wore amber jerseys and black shorts for the first time. They borrowed the kit from the Hampshire Regiment." But in the programme for the 1963 FA Cup semi-final it refers to Southampton wearing old gold shirts. So I guess amber and old gold were regarded as interchangeable terms. Some good research. Thanks for that, interesting.
RedArmy Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Maggie May said: Isn’t it league requirement to have a block colour on the back? Premier league
Badger Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, RedArmy said: Premier league Yet Bournemouth have managed to avoid it, as have others 1
Willo of Whiteley Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I don’t think having blocks instead of stripes down the back is a requirement as such, it’s dependant on what the colour schemes are, name and number fonts and colours etc.
bpsaint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Maggie May said: Isn’t it league requirement to have a block colour on the back? No, that seems to have become a bit of a myth somehow as we hear it a lot but multiple teams ignore it each year. Stoke have a fully striped back this season, and even with the suggestion it’s a premier league rule Sunderland and Bournemouth don’t seem too bothered . 1
RedArmy Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Badger said: Yet Bournemouth have managed to avoid it, as have others Yes because they have two dark colours for stripes and can make their names and numbers easily visible. If you’ve got white in your stripes you need a block.
Badger Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 24 minutes ago, RedArmy said: Yes because they have two dark colours for stripes and can make their names and numbers easily visible. If you’ve got white in your stripes you need a block. Aren’t black numbers and lettering prominent on red and white then ?
bpsaint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, RedArmy said: Yes because they have two dark colours for stripes and can make their names and numbers easily visible. If you’ve got white in your stripes you need a block. Sunderland didn’t last season, and leaks would suggest they’re not this season either. Don’t see how a black number wouldn’t make that a non issue anyway. 1
trousers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, RedArmy said: Yes because they have two dark colours for stripes and can make their names and numbers easily visible. If you’ve got white in your stripes you need a block. 3
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