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Whatever Lowe has said has been analysed for every nuance and interpretation. Personally I think the best PR advice he got this season was to keep quiet, both because he can put his foot in in (Klingons etc.) and because there are people who will accentuate the negative, eliminate the positive etc.

 

And if Lowe was in the Echo "rallying the troops", you'd be in the front of the queue with:

 

- what right does he have, he's the reason we're in this situation.

- what does he know, he should just shut up and stop interfering.

- I hear he's picking the team with Wotte.

 

..or something similar. He can't win.

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To be fair, I suspect Crouch is involved in one of the consortia maybe in some capacity, so its good PR as well - have no problem with anyone rallying the troops, we need all teh supoport afterall. Lowe's recent publicity rounds as you will agree were mostly about trying to save face and defend himself, but at teh very least he did say that teh Club was the most important thing right now and he would do anything he could to help... which is fair enough.

 

The CLUB is the most important thing, and whilst the ultimate wish is a club free for ALL its recent boardroom burdens with fresh new blood without a 'history' - we need anything and all the help we can get right now from any source, especially if it results in our survival.

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To be fair, I suspect Crouch is involved in one of the consortia maybe in some capacity, so its good PR as well - have no problem with anyone rallying the troops, we need all teh supoport afterall. Lowe's recent publicity rounds as you will agree were mostly about trying to save face and defend himself, but at teh very least he did say that teh Club was the most important thing right now and he would do anything he could to help... which is fair enough.

 

The CLUB is the most important thing, and whilst the ultimate wish is a club free for ALL its recent boardroom burdens with fresh new blood without a 'history' - we need anything and all the help we can get right now from any source, especially if it results in our survival.

 

Yes, the club is the most important thing

 

No, he isnt doing anything to help. Putting aside his awful track record of appointing managers, which has ultimately probably cost the clubs its existence, he has a woeful track record of attracting investment or a buyer, considering his supposed City contacts and "reputation"...

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Yes, the club is the most important thing

 

No, he isnt doing anything to help. Putting aside his awful track record of appointing managers, which has ultimately probably cost the clubs its existence, he has a woeful track record of attracting investment or a buyer, considering his supposed City contacts and "reputation"...

 

To be fair alpine, if we did not have the debt burden, I suspect we would ahve been sold last year when Crouch was confident taht investment would happen any day now...3 months, 6 months...9 months etc - thats no disrespect to Crouch- but you ahve to admit that both he and Wilde PROMISED investment and niether delivered - the only real potential from SISU was rejected by Crouch as well - Lowe on teh over hand never promised any such like, so if viewed in that context they are all pretty similar.... bad at finding new investors, or just a symptom of the difficulty of finding investors prepared to potentially Lose out in such a high risk business as football?

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Whatever Lowe has said has been analysed for every nuance and interpretation. Personally I think the best PR advice he got this season was to keep quiet /QUOTE]

 

 

What a pity he therefore spent the first week of his departure going round the media claiming that it was not his fault.

 

Why doesn't he try to rally the troops now instead of going round blaming everyone else except himself ???

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Lowe's media round was not for the good of the Club and I fail to see how him saying anything in the press about rallying the troops for the next two games would be of any value whatsoever (likewise Wilde). Keep quiet and stay away, would be my advice.

 

I think in this instance Wilde and Lowe are doing the right thing.

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Personally I never want to hear from, see, or read anything about RL/MW ever again!

I have not followed or read any of RL's media debriefings; I didn't believe in him when he was here and I'm certainly not now going to throw good time after bad times trolling him around the media .... if we haven't heard anything from RL that is A GOOD THING and long may it continue.

 

In the interests of fairness/balance I'm not overly convinced that LC is the answer either.

 

My abiding wish is that we are taken over by someone I've never heard of, who appoints a competent team of people I've never heard of, and that they then rinse the place clean from top to bottom and make a complete fresh start on and off the pitch.

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To be fair alpine' date=' if we did not have the debt burden, I suspect we would ahve been sold last year when Crouch was confident taht investment would happen any day now...3 months, 6 months...9 months etc - thats no disrespect to Crouch- but you ahve to admit that both he and Wilde PROMISED investment and niether delivered - the only real potential from SISU was rejected by Crouch as well - Lowe on teh over hand never promised any such like, so if viewed in that context they are all pretty similar.... bad at finding new investors, or just a symptom of the difficulty of finding investors prepared to potentially Lose out in such a high risk business as football?[/quote'] got to agree i would like a fresh start with new directors and a fresh start at this club but the main thing is saving this club from going under.
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If the club is the most important thing why must people still obsess about Lowe/Wilde/Crouch? If it's the most important thing why did some fans boycott home games because of one or two personalities? I do find it totally hypocritical of some people who have urged fans to stay away this season to now be preaching that the club is more important than any individuals.

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Another call in the Echo today from Lymmington for the fans to get behind the team and get down to SMS.

 

A wall of silence emanates from the Cotswolds and Jersey....

 

Damned if they do, damned if they don't !

Give it a rest and let's move on ..........

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All 3 of them are blithering idiots and by their decision making and judgement ( or rather lack of it), have contributed in varying degrees to our lamentable situation now.

 

I long for the day when there will be no need to discuss any of those 3 due to them having no power or no say in how the club is run.

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Lowe's media round was not for the good of the Club and I fail to see how him saying anything in the press about rallying the troops for the next two games would be of any value whatsoever (likewise Wilde). Keep quiet and stay away, would be my advice.

 

I think in this instance Wilde and Lowe are doing the right thing.

Agree with this. Also have no problem with Crouch/McMenemy calling for support.
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Another call in the Echo today from Lymmington for the fans to get behind the team and get down to SMS.

 

A wall of silence emanates from the Cotswolds and Jersey....

 

FORMER Saints chairman Leon Crouch has issued a stark warning to fans about the future of the club. The Lymington-based businessman, pictured, said Saints are in real risk of folding before the end of the season.

 

It seems that it takes a very long time for anything to trickle down to Lymington but it looks like it eventually made it.

 

Leon Crouch

We are not in a desperate situation. We can last a year or even further without investment. A lot of people have been talking Southampton Football Club down and they should not be. It is a great club and we are not in the position people are trying to portray in the media. Those criticisms are unfair. It was a difficult situation with SISU.

 

We are not rock bottom or in a situation where we have to take a proposal from organisations who want to buy us on the cheap. Saints have knocked back reports that they have approached Arsenal to try and to reach an early cash settlement on the Theo Walcott deal in order to head off administration. The club have strongly denied suggestions in a national newspaper that they have exceeded their overdraft limit and are under pressure from the bank. Chairman Leon Crouch said: "There is a lot we would like to say in response to this story but unfortunately we have been placed in an offer period by the Stock Exchange who insist that we remain in it and whose rules therefore prevent us from talking about financial matters.

 

We have no intention of selling our best players. There is a new board now and we will draw a line under everything that has gone before. As far as I am concerned we are going forward now with a good squad of players. We have assets and the reduced number of executives means we now have a leaner and meaner board. All clubs in the Championship need money and we are in the same situation but we have better facilities than a lot of the clubs in this league, we have a good squad of players and we have assets. We are definitely not in a position like Coventry who were rock bottom.

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FORMER Saints chairman Leon Crouch has issued a stark warning to fans about the future of the club. The Lymington-based businessman, pictured, said Saints are in real risk of folding before the end of the season.

 

It seems that it takes a very long time for anything to trickle down to Lymington but it looks like it eventually made it.

 

Leon Crouch

We are not in a desperate situation. We can last a year or even further without investment. A lot of people have been talking Southampton Football Club down and they should not be. It is a great club and we are not in the position people are trying to portray in the media. Those criticisms are unfair. It was a difficult situation with SISU.

 

We are not rock bottom or in a situation where we have to take a proposal from organisations who want to buy us on the cheap. Saints have knocked back reports that they have approached Arsenal to try and to reach an early cash settlement on the Theo Walcott deal in order to head off administration. The club have strongly denied suggestions in a national newspaper that they have exceeded their overdraft limit and are under pressure from the bank. Chairman Leon Crouch said: "There is a lot we would like to say in response to this story but unfortunately we have been placed in an offer period by the Stock Exchange who insist that we remain in it and whose rules therefore prevent us from talking about financial matters.

 

We have no intention of selling our best players. There is a new board now and we will draw a line under everything that has gone before. As far as I am concerned we are going forward now with a good squad of players. We have assets and the reduced number of executives means we now have a leaner and meaner board. All clubs in the Championship need money and we are in the same situation but we have better facilities than a lot of the clubs in this league, we have a good squad of players and we have assets. We are definitely not in a position like Coventry who were rock bottom.

 

So what ? That was about 15months ago.

 

Before Lowe went and got in three usless Dutch coaches and one useless Dutch advisor, piissed off two other coaches and then put them on gardening leave and paid out over a million for Augustin Delgado....er...Morgan Schneidelin...

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So what ? That was about 15months ago.

 

Before Lowe went and got in three usless Dutch coaches and one useless Dutch advisor, piissed off two other coaches and then put them on gardening leave and paid out over a million for Augustin Delgado....er...Morgan Schneidelin...

 

Sometimes it is just easier to shut your eyes, isn't it....????

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FORMER Saints chairman Leon Crouch has issued a stark warning to fans about the future of the club. The Lymington-based businessman, pictured, said Saints are in real risk of folding before the end of the season.

 

It seems that it takes a very long time for anything to trickle down to Lymington but it looks like it eventually made it.

 

Leon Crouch

We are not in a desperate situation. We can last a year or even further without investment. A lot of people have been talking Southampton Football Club down and they should not be. It is a great club and we are not in the position people are trying to portray in the media. Those criticisms are unfair. It was a difficult situation with SISU.

 

We are not rock bottom or in a situation where we have to take a proposal from organisations who want to buy us on the cheap. Saints have knocked back reports that they have approached Arsenal to try and to reach an early cash settlement on the Theo Walcott deal in order to head off administration. The club have strongly denied suggestions in a national newspaper that they have exceeded their overdraft limit and are under pressure from the bank. Chairman Leon Crouch said: "There is a lot we would like to say in response to this story but unfortunately we have been placed in an offer period by the Stock Exchange who insist that we remain in it and whose rules therefore prevent us from talking about financial matters.

 

We have no intention of selling our best players. There is a new board now and we will draw a line under everything that has gone before. As far as I am concerned we are going forward now with a good squad of players. We have assets and the reduced number of executives means we now have a leaner and meaner board. All clubs in the Championship need money and we are in the same situation but we have better facilities than a lot of the clubs in this league, we have a good squad of players and we have assets. We are definitely not in a position like Coventry who were rock bottom.

 

Lowey and his team of Luvvies shhiiite stirring....Let him go prancer.:rolleyes:

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So what ? That was about 15months ago.

 

Before Lowe went and got in three usless Dutch coaches and one useless Dutch advisor, piissed off two other coaches and then put them on gardening leave and paid out over a million for Augustin Delgado....er...Morgan Schneidelin...

 

This is the same Morgan Schneiderlin that people were worried we were going to sell to Arsenal in the transfer window for a vast profit?

 

Weren't the rumours going around when he was acquired that Arsenal have actually bought him we are just borrowing him for a while??

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Another call in the Echo today from Lymmington for the fans to get behind the team and get down to SMS.

 

A wall of silence emanates from the Cotswolds and Jersey....

 

Crouch is an egotistical populist playing to the crowds to keep his name in the paper. I wish people would just tell him to go away. He is and always will be part of the problem, not part of the solution & if it wasn't for your persistant 'My enemy's enemy is my friend' mentality you would have worked it out for yourself. He is part of our tainted recent past, just like Lowe is, and like Lowe he should fade quietly away.

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Given it was under the Crouch/Wilde regime that cash in the bank plus future transfer instalments (Walcot / Bale) were replaced by a £6m overdraft that eventually lead to the position we are in now, i think Crouch's rallying calls are a bit rich. I can't quite understand why in spite of the mess we are in the mud has only stuck on Lowe.

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This is the same Morgan Schneiderlin that people were worried we were going to sell to Arsenal in the transfer window for a vast profit?

 

Weren't the rumours going around when he was acquired that Arsenal have actually bought him we are just borrowing him for a while??

 

Come off it, that story was always a turkey.

 

I am sure the lad himself has aspirations of playing at Arsenal. But was it ever a real prospect ? Wenger is quite happy to splash the cash and bring in youngsters and bring them through himself if they have REAL prospect. the whole set up with him at Saints doesnt make sense.

 

Only Saints players in recent years to spend more time on the treatment table are Idiotkez and Powell.

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Given it was under the Crouch/Wilde regime that cash in the bank plus future transfer instalments (Walcot / Bale) were replaced by a £6m overdraft that eventually lead to the position we are in now, i think Crouch's rallying calls are a bit rich. I can't quite understand why in spite of the mess we are in the mud has only stuck on Lowe.

 

Just activated after two years.............Oh come on now!!!!

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So what ? That was about 15months ago.

 

Before Lowe went and got in three usless Dutch coaches and one useless Dutch advisor, piissed off two other coaches and then put them on gardening leave and paid out over a million for Augustin Delgado....er...Morgan Schneidelin...

oh dear so the bigtime mismangement of finances the last 2 seasons that brought the club to its knees was all a dream because of good leadership we had at boardroom level.

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Crouch is an egotistical populist playing to the crowds to keep his name in the paper. I wish people would just tell him to go away. He is and always will be part of the problem, not part of the solution & if it wasn't for your persistant 'My enemy's enemy is my friend' mentality you would have worked it out for yourself. He is part of our tainted recent past, just like Lowe is, and like Lowe he should fade quietly away.

 

Yes I agree..

 

The Saints Boardroom has been riven with division and dis-unity for far too long, and Leon has had his hands full square in the mix. Briefing for, briefing against, undermining you name it - And when he did get his 6 months in the hotseat he did nothing at all to persuade me that he was an able chairman of this club - He even replicated Ruperts biggest ever balls up by appointing caretaker managers and then quickly annointing them full time in the job when it was plain to most that D&G were not up to the task. Lawrie had to get him out of the mess by facilitating Pearson's appointment.

 

We need to move full square away from anybody who has presided at this club over the past 7 years since our fall from grace - Lowe, Leon, Wilde the whole lot... We must have a fresh start !

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Given it was under the Crouch/Wilde regime that cash in the bank plus future transfer instalments (Walcot / Bale) were replaced by a £6m overdraft that eventually lead to the position we are in now, i think Crouch's rallying calls are a bit rich. I can't quite understand why in spite of the mess we are in the mud has only stuck on Lowe.

 

hello rupert

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I don't care about any differences between Lowe, Wilde and Crouch, they let Rome burn whilst stabbing each other in the back so as they could have their turn at being the fat controller.

 

I don't want any of them near the club again.

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Yes I agree..

 

The Saints Boardroom has been riven with division and dis-unity for far too long, and Leon has had his hands full square in the mix.

We need to move full square away from anybody who has presided at this club over the past 7 years since our fall from grace - Lowe, Leon, Wilde the whole lot... We must have a fresh start !

 

I don't care about any differences between Lowe, Wilde and Crouch, they let Rome burn whilst stabbing each other in the back so as they could have their turn at being the fat controller.

 

I don't want any of them near the club again.

 

As I've been saying for months

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Oh c'mon, if you haven't got anything constructive as a counter argument don't bother!!

 

 

 

Constructive counter argument ...My LEFT BUM CHEEK.:D

 

 

THIS GROUP OF LOWEY SADDOS ARE OUT IN FORCE FOR

 

DAMAGE LIMITATION.:mad:........This has nothing to do with debate or opinions...

 

Some say we are all entitled to our opinion....But THE LUVVIES shout down any support for opponents of Lowe, Wilde AND THE DUTCH BOYZZ.

 

But the troupe come on here day after day with more Lowe chorus chants and continued hatred to anyone who supports the clubs revival. In fact they are very sneaky little chorus boyzz and girlz.:smt018

 

 

UNITE....With most ..yes....Mr Lowe and his ensemble....NO CHANCE.:rolleyes:

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Constructive counter argument ...My LEFT BUM CHEEK.:D

 

 

THIS GROUP OF LOWEY SADDOS ARE OUT IN FORCE FOR

 

DAMAGE LIMITATION.:mad:........This has nothing to do with debate or opinions...

 

Some say we are all entitled to our opinion....But THE LUVVIES shout down any support for opponents of Lowe, Wilde AND THE DUTCH BOYZZ.

 

But the troupe come on here day after day with more Lowe chorus chants and continued hatred to anyone who supports the clubs revival. In fact they are very sneaky little chorus boyzz and girlz.:smt018

 

 

UNITE....With most ..yes....Mr Lowe and his ensemble....NO CHANCE.:rolleyes:

 

Lovely day for a lunchtime beer or 10 ! ;-)

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Don't drink.....regardless of the jokes I had with your boyfriends nick etc.....

 

Does not change the excited chants of your luvvie troupe.....

 

SO ANY CHANCES OF UNITING OR IS THAT BEYOND RUPERTS REMIT?;-)

 

Until our future is clear, may I suggest you start doing so..... heavily ! ;)

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I honestly don't think that you should mix drink with the drugs that you are taking, that's if you are taking them! Your lucidity level has markedly slipped recently

 

Cheers, Bob.... you bad boy.:smt018... Still living in hope that the idiots will unite instead of the continued drivel. Show me the debate then they will not get the drivel about their dancing prowess....As they have said UNITE....Hopefully we can sooner than later otherwise we are going to have a Summer of low flying swallows or was it Sardines..As Eric.. Suggested. Clear as mud.:rolleyes:

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FORMER Saints chairman Leon Crouch has issued a stark warning to fans about the future of the club. The Lymington-based businessman, pictured, said Saints are in real risk of folding before the end of the season.

 

It seems that it takes a very long time for anything to trickle down to Lymington but it looks like it eventually made it.

 

Leon Crouch

We are not in a desperate situation. We can last a year or even further without investment. A lot of people have been talking Southampton Football Club down and they should not be. It is a great club and we are not in the position people are trying to portray in the media. Those criticisms are unfair. It was a difficult situation with SISU.

 

We are not rock bottom or in a situation where we have to take a proposal from organisations who want to buy us on the cheap. Saints have knocked back reports that they have approached Arsenal to try and to reach an early cash settlement on the Theo Walcott deal in order to head off administration. The club have strongly denied suggestions in a national newspaper that they have exceeded their overdraft limit and are under pressure from the bank. Chairman Leon Crouch said: "There is a lot we would like to say in response to this story but unfortunately we have been placed in an offer period by the Stock Exchange who insist that we remain in it and whose rules therefore prevent us from talking about financial matters.

 

We have no intention of selling our best players. There is a new board now and we will draw a line under everything that has gone before. As far as I am concerned we are going forward now with a good squad of players. We have assets and the reduced number of executives means we now have a leaner and meaner board. All clubs in the Championship need money and we are in the same situation but we have better facilities than a lot of the clubs in this league, we have a good squad of players and we have assets. We are definitely not in a position like Coventry who were rock bottom.

Lowey and his team of Luvvies shhiiite stirring....Let him go prancer.:rolleyes:

 

And up pops Couch's rear gunner. Not even a mention of Lowe and you are wiping his arse, can't have anything sticking to Leon, he's a real fan.

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And up pops Couch's rear gunner. Not even a mention of Lowe and you are wiping his arse, can't have anything sticking to Leon, he's a real fan.

 

I am not dancing with you again.[-X...You are SO spiteful.:smt018....A trait I noticed with other bully boyzz at Public School.:rolleyes:

 

 

I take it you are not joining the UNITE DREAM TEAM....Only nick and me so far.....You are welcome old boy;)

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Given it was under the Crouch/Wilde regime that cash in the bank plus future transfer instalments (Walcot / Bale) were replaced by a £6m overdraft that eventually lead to the position we are in now, i think Crouch's rallying calls are a bit rich. I can't quite understand why in spite of the mess we are in the mud has only stuck on Lowe.

 

hello rupert

 

I take it you can't actually answer the point that ISS made then....???

 

Whilst we all want to stick knives into RL and punch the livin' shyte out of him - perhaps we should look at some of the other numpties who are probably pretty damn grateful that he was stupid enough to be at the front of the queue when it all went tits up. Are they blameless - err are they shyte..!

 

Nobody has come out of this clusterfuk with any credibility whatsoever - but some would have you believe the sun shines out of certain peoples rear ends, whilst RL is the one and only total source of all of the problems.

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This is the same Morgan Schneiderlin that people were worried we were going to sell to Arsenal in the transfer window for a vast profit?

 

Weren't the rumours going around when he was acquired that Arsenal have actually bought him we are just borrowing him for a while??

 

The only people who thought that are a bit special.

 

HTH.

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