John B Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 (edited) http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4355745.Premiership_in_five_years/ I wonder who is the person with the money behind it? How much money does he have? Edited 9 May, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Not run off into the distance because of Marc Jackson's bid/interest then ? That will upset a few on here who want to see drama at every turn. Lets hope and pray their bid is accepted, I dont think we are gonna get any better but of course like everyone else on here i dont know that, its just my opinion : - ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 No rotundas, St Kitts & Nevis Saints or David Beckhams in sight. Bah! humbug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLYMPIC Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Have to agree with the coments on there it would be good but so far does this group have the money to pull it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzybear Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Please let them wrap this up ASAP....... at least to save my sanity! This has got to be a good deal for the club, so lets hope they give it the go-ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 gonna need deep pockets to build a squad capable of getting out of L1....and very deep pockets to challenge in the Championship.......let's hope that is understood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Have to agree with the coments on there it would be good but so far does this group have the money to pull it off. Didnt Mark Dennis say on Radio Hampshire a couple of nights ago he asked MLT if the backer was very well off or obscenely well off and MLT said obscenely ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Talk is cheap - let's see if they get the opportunity to put their money where their mouth is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 That's very optimistic considering our 10 point deduction. Would take a massive outlay to get us out of the Championship at the first attempt and even that might not be enough if the squad takes time to gel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Seems completely plausible with the right manager and a decent level of investment in the team. Throwing money at it in the first season would end in disaster but building with a five year plan is definitely the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreog Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Heard it all before.......simply pie in the sky stuff really........just lets get a buyer of some sort and stabilise in the 3rd Division firstly...........I and many others would be content with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 The full article mentions "Lynam also revealed to the Echo that his clients are not property developers, as previously rumoured, instead they are 'owners of various properties, land and businesses'" - Candy Brothers???????? Also... "The Echo can also reveal today that a group in Canada is considering mounting a bid for the club". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 The full article mentions "Lynam also revealed to the Echo that his clients are not property developers, as previously rumoured, instead they are 'owners of various properties, land and businesses'" - Candy Brothers???????? Or perhaps the Iranian Tchenguiz brothers of Rotch Property Group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 I guessed the Candy Brothers ages ago and Weston or FF or someone like that said no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 I guessed the Candy Brothers ages ago and Weston or FF or someone like that said no. Weston said Marc Jackson wasn't involved either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 "The Echo can also reveal today that a group in Canada is considering mounting a bid for the club". Blimey, I reckon Adam Leitch is stalking NickG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 I guessed the Candy Brothers ages ago and Weston or FF or someone like that said no. Tough titties, we need sugar daddies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Weston said Marc Jackson wasn't involved either.... Bit of a difference between a small time part of a consortium and the big backer. Would potentially be harder to get wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 I guessed the Candy Brothers ages ago and Weston or FF or someone like that said no. I stopped taking any notice of ITK's a long time ago. They mean well but most of the time they talk out of their arses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 I stopped taking any notice of ITK's a long time ago. They mean well but most of the time they talk out of their arses. Yeah but at the same tme you get to know who you can trust (like the people who have got things right in the past.) I would put those two in that category and now nickG who seems to have a decent source. I also know that if master bates gets anything he is putting it up in good faith. I'm not stupid enough to believe that eveything is correct but if you keep your eyes open then you do get a fair bit of correct info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Yeah but at the same tme you get to know who you can trust (like the people who have got things right in the past.) I would put those two in that category and now nickG who seems to have a decent source. I also know that if master bates gets anything he is putting it up in good faith. I'm not stupid enough to believe that eveything is correct but if you keep your eyes open then you do get a fair bit of correct info. Weston Saint FF exit2 NickG um pahars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 The full article mentions "Lynam also revealed to the Echo that his clients are not property developers, as previously rumoured, instead they are 'owners of various properties, land and businesses'" - Candy Brothers???????? Also... "The Echo can also reveal today that a group in Canada is considering mounting a bid for the club". Oh The Echo, you are a terrible cad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Weston Saint FF exit2 NickG um pahars Not including yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Not including yourself? Nah, not as reliable as the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 You might be able to trust their good intentions but you can't attach any weight to most of what they post IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Yeah but at the same tme you get to know who you can trust (like the people who have got things right in the past.) I would put those two in that category and now nickG who seems to have a decent source. I also know that if master bates gets anything he is putting it up in good faith. I'm not stupid enough to believe that eveything is correct but if you keep your eyes open then you do get a fair bit of correct info. I'd say their records are 50/50 at best (maybe NickG has a better strike rate but he's not so forward with ITK prophesising). There's a lot of ITK's who think they are gods gift to ITKing and of sound judgement, but this is their achiles heel, because they are the ones most profitable for exploitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4355745.Premiership_in_five_years/ I wonder who is the person with the money behind it? How much money does he have? I am more interested in the bid from abroad at the moment. That really does interest me. If we're to get back to the Premiership international backing now may be the only real way. It also means a major clean sweep. Saints are marketable internationally. That name alone is helpful in that it doesnt even really link us to Southampton. Also the city is almost entirely dependent on international trade - indeed we are the chief port for the entire UK. We are - believe it or not an international city and hub as a result. So what? Going global = £s. It also = total sweep out of the boardroom. It may also mean our best chance of success in the future. It is certainly the one bid with most potential and potentially the most ambitious. On reading what I have thus far I would punt for MLTs bid as a feel good second option and MJs as a survival option. I am relieved to see the 'International' bid is laying low... it may be because it is indeed the most likely to be announced as the winner. This city and football club are global players on the international stage. Time to recognise that IF the international bid is right. If not? I still think we should be looking for one even if MLTs consortium do take over. Its the only way back to the Premiership, particularly if we want to stay there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 I am more interested in the bid from abroad at the moment. That really does interest me. If we're to get back to the Premiership international backing now may be the only real way. It also means a major clean sweep. Saints are marketable internationally. That name alone is helpful in that it doesnt even really link us to Southampton. Also the city is almost entirely dependent on international trade - indeed we are the chief port for the entire UK. We are - believe it or not an international city and hub as a result. So what? Going global = £s. It also = total sweep out of the boardroom. It may also mean our best chance of success in the future. It is certainly the one bid with most potential and potentially the most ambitious. On reading what I have thus far I would punt for MLTs bid as a feel good second option and MJs as a survival option. I am relieved to see the 'International' bid is laying low... it may be because it is indeed the most likely to be announced as the winner. This city and football club are global players on the international stage. Time to recognise that IF the international bid is right. If not? I still think we should be looking for one even if MLTs consortium do take over. Its the only way back to the Premiership, particularly if we want to stay there. Why would it matter if we had 20m from abroad or 20m from Britain? Money is money! Why do you want an international bid so much? Really doesn't matter where they are from if both deals offered equal money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Why would it matter if we had 20m from abroad or 20m from Britain? Money is money! Why do you want an international bid so much? Really doesn't matter where they are from if both deals offered equal money! International recognition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Saints are marketable internationally. That name alone is helpful in that it doesnt even really link us to Southampton. It's a relatively minor point but the obvious Christian religious connotations of the term 'Saints' could actually be a negative factor in certain parts of the world . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Why would it matter if we had 20m from abroad or 20m from Britain? Money is money! Why do you want an international bid so much? Really doesn't matter where they are from if both deals offered equal money! Global branding = future money = success = more chance of staying in the Premiership once we get there. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 It's a relatively minor point but the obvious Christian religious connotations of the term 'Saints' could actually be a negative factor in certain parts of the world . Yes, yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 It's a relatively minor point but the obvious Christian religious connotations of the term 'Saints' could actually be a negative factor in certain parts of the world . or you could argue that it could be spun the other way - family club etc etc. I would not be keen on having a shed load of Republican US Christian fundamentalists following us mind. No I think the name is fully marketable across the world and across cultures. In future years of football (bearing in mind the way the Premiership is going) names of places of origin will fade, a good knickname will take over IMHO as the league goes even more global. For the Americans especially, 'The Saints' implies all sorts of values and sportsmanship. I think we're on a winner to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Global branding = future money = success = more chance of staying in the Premiership once we get there. Simples. What a strange statement! Why can only foreign investment mean global branding? Why can't a rich British bid have global branding? Before I sound like I'm from the BNP can I just say I don't care where the money is from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 gonna need deep pockets to build a squad capable of getting out of L1....and very deep pockets to challenge in the Championship.......let's hope that is understood. Not to mention keeping us out of League 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Please let them wrap this up ASAP....... at least to save my sanity! This has got to be a good deal for the club, so lets hope they give it the go-ahead. After the last fiasco be carefull what you wish for. Remember Wilde was to be the salvation, and turned out to be the agent of death for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 What a strange statement! Why can only foreign investment mean global branding? Why can't a rich British bid have global branding? Before I sound like I'm from the BNP can I just say I don't care where the money is from Because you start on a global stage with an international bidder rather than building to to the global stage with a British bidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Not to mention keeping us out of League 2. Correct. Currently we have Wotte and a stripped team of League 1 minus standard players and minus 10 points. Currently, as a DIRECT result of Lowe's policy THIS past season, we are heading for League 2. .... but takeover is coming and Lowe is gone. Optimism... smells good again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 At least no ITK has said today's the day yet so I can get on with life an not be glued to the web and SSN all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 At least no ITK has said today's the day yet so I can get on with life an not be glued to the web and SSN all day free day, couldn't possibly happen on a sat!! they will all be playing golf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Because you start on a global stage with an international bidder rather than building to to the global stage with a British bidder. So British bidders don't have international contacts!? Most super wealthy people have business connections on a global scale. "International" bidders only have one country as well, so both a local and foreign investment from your logic still has over 200 countries untouched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 It's a relatively minor point but the obvious Christian religious connotations of the term 'Saints' could actually be a negative factor in certain parts of the world . but lets not forget there are a lots of Christians as well. - 2 billion according to a website I just looked at. 32% of world population If everyone spent £1 each year on SFC we would be the biggest club in the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 Perhaps we should link up with pompey. With our saintly connections and their cresent moon of Islam we'd have all bases covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 "The Echo can also reveal today that a group in Canada is considering mounting a bid for the club". Trousers' picture on the other thread is good, then. The mounties always get their man.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 So British bidders don't have international contacts!? Most super wealthy people have business connections on a global scale. "International" bidders only have one country as well, so both a local and foreign investment from your logic still has over 200 countries untouched. Of course - the point I am making (again sadly) it that we have an instant start point internationally with an ambitious foreign owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 The Barclay Brothers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 but lets not forget there are a lots of Christians as well. - 2 billion according to a website I just looked at. 32% of world population If everyone spent £1 each year on SFC we would be the biggest club in the world! Splendid idea Football is sometimes called 'Gods game' so logically the Saints must be Gods team I suppose . On the other hand true Christians have already given all their money away (camels & the eye of the needle etc) so funding may be limited . Nevertheless I shall continue praying for divine inspiration in the Chapel , God knows we need all the help we can get . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 The Barclay Brothers ? Glen Hoddle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 gonna need deep pockets to build a squad capable of getting out of L1....and very deep pockets to challenge in the Championship.......let's hope that is understood. disagree, teams coming up aren't known for having spent big - just balanced well managed team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 May, 2009 Share Posted 9 May, 2009 disagree, teams coming up aren't known for having spent big - just balanced well managed team That's true. But, to get the right manager you need to spend cash though. And in our case - with the stripping out of the team this summer - we'll need to spend a packet on new players. We need to get someone like Ince IMHO, on a long contract, and with some cash to buy the nucleus of a decent side. Our current players and manager (& -10pts) are likely to relegate us. Priority number 1: ignore the consortium 5 year plans to the Premiership etc etc and employing Dutch coaches for £60K, it is BUY THE BEST MANAGER YOU CAN AND SPEND TO DO IT. If nothing else it eventually produces that well balanced and managed team regardless of the current crop of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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