TijuanaTim Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 This is going to be hard for us questioning, inquisitive and second-guessing Saints fans. It is in our very nature to say 'what if...?', 'why?, 'who says so?', 'where has it gone?' etc...but in the case of MLT we are talking about someone completely unique in the annals of Southampton Football Club, the city itself and especially our supporters. I really think he is putting himself right in our cross-hairs so to speak, by doing something very gallant that most wouldn't touch with the proverbial bargepole FFS. So what's my point, personally I believe that under no circumstance should we display anything but belief, support and appreciation towards this chosen one. That's just me, as individuals you have to do what your heart/mind tells you. However, I do implore everyone to remember this unique soul and how he and he alone made our 'football' lives bareable on too many occasions to accurately recall. Let's not do what some many other clubs/fans do and ever, I repeat ever turn on Le Tizz. The Spurs - Hoddle thing is a classic reminder of how it shouldn't become...yes I reallize it is not so likely that MLT will be manager, but you get my drift. Let's hope he can be there to help try and save us again, never forget and never turn on him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 He has given me some of the best footballing experiences in my life. He has shown faith, integrity and honesty in Southampton Football Club - we should do the same IMHO. He after all has saved us on more than one occasion (great escapes etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker268 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I agree, it will be a sad day if anyone turns on him, hopefully they will never need too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I don't think anyone would dare turn on him if they value their life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 100% agree TT. I have been priveliged to have seen all the Saints greats from Terry Paine right thru' to MLT. As a football family we are now entering another unique chapter in our Clubs history and we are being led by the 'Chosen One'. MLT is without doubt continuing the legacy started by Edric Thornton Bates, a life time dedicated to one Club; the club that is Southampton FC. Those that called him unambitious for remaining at Saints just don't understand what a tight knit family we all are. COYR's!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Right on the money TT. Matty was on a cushty number at Sky. He is risking a lot coming back. The easy option would have been for him to stand by and let someone else get their hands dirty. That is the measure of the man imo! The word Legend is used far too often nowadays. When speaking of Matt there can be no doubt about this title in his case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muvvers Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 What Matt has done is put his persona on the line - because he is a legend with us saints fans...and for him, by getting involved now he is setting himself up for a fall, but I don't think this is going to happen - he's no mug - and he know's football at the top level...magic moment in my life as a Saints fan for 43 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 What Matt has done is put his persona on the line - because he is a legend with us saints fans...and for him, by getting involved now he is setting himself up for a fall, but I don't think this is going to happen - he's no mug - and he know's football at the top level...magic moment in my life as a Saints fan for 43 years! On a par with '76! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 It will never happen from me but there will be people who will turn on him if things look bleak......mainly idiots and perhaps the younger generation who don't realise the importance of the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 It will never happen from me but there will be people who will turn on him if things look bleak......mainly idiots and perhaps the younger generation who don't realise the importance of the man. That would probably be the case with any normal person but even those hardly able to walk know and appreciate Le Tiss. Personally I'd be surprised if that ever happened and as I said before I think anyone who decided to turn on him would quickly be put in their place. Hopefully though we'll never need to know, let's be really positive!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 MLT is only in this for himself - he is selfish and will stop at nothing to destroy us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 MLT is only in this for himself - he is selfish and will stop at nothing to destroy us! Oi, this is a serious thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 if he does badly (at whatever he is going to be doing) then he should take the flack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Right on the money TT. Matty was on a cushty number at Sky. He is risking a lot coming back. The easy option would have been for him to stand by and let someone else get their hands dirty. That is the measure of the man imo! The word Legend is used far too often nowadays. When speaking of Matt there can be no doubt about this title in his case. Agree with everything that has been said but we cannot deny that MLT is risking his reputation and deserved status as a legend in the truest sense of the word. If things go badly wrong and we end up back in a situation that caused him to leave his 'cushty' Sky numberin the first place then I fear the worse. Seems there is a bubbling sense of unease at Newcastle with Shearer already and that is a club that uncannily replicates our own expectations at times IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 if he does badly (at whatever he is going to be doing) then he should take the flack True. No one can live off their past glories but hopefully if it starts to go t1ts up lets up hope he walks head held high and reputation in tack with regard to his status as the greatest player we have ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 True. No one can live off their past glories but hopefully if it starts to go t1ts up lets up hope he walks head held high and reputation in tack with regard to his status as the greatest player we have ever had. No need to worry, Matty is as tough as nails:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Sorry, but this just has to be done !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Stop rippin ma tred ya punk! http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=13438 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 if he does badly (at whatever he is going to be doing) then he should take the flack Achtung Flugabwehrkanone .......... or incoming Matty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mase Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 How could they turn on him? After what he’s done for the club, what he’s doing for the club... I don’t think it will happen though. I can honestly say I’ve never met a Saints support that I dislike. (That’s not including ex board members!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Agree with everything that has been said but we cannot deny that MLT is risking his reputation and deserved status as a legend in the truest sense of the word. If things go badly wrong and we end up back in a situation that caused him to leave his 'cushty' Sky numberin the first place then I fear the worse. Seems there is a bubbling sense of unease at Newcastle with Shearer already and that is a club that uncannily replicates our own expectations at times IMO. You have already slagged MLT off in your pathetic defence of Lowe. There is an unbelievable gulf between the expectations of Newcastle fans and Saints fans and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 You have already slagged MLT off in your pathetic defence of Lowe. There is an unbelievable gulf between the expectations of Newcastle fans and Saints fans and you know it. And them some! Newcastle fans are almost as delusional as Spurs fans who think they are a "great" club. We know exactly what our expectations are I suggest, a good club who belong in the Premiership but never in a million years will we win it and a spot in Europe the most we could ever hope for. For the time being we are where we are due to a series of disastrous decisions and if we start on -10 next year then with the teams in League One a play off spot is probably the best we can hope for. I'm just going to enjoy the fact we still have a club and that is largely down to one person. If that is ever forgotten then quite frankly it would be astonishing and a disgrace. Lets not kid ourselves that life is going to be a bed of roses but we have an unbelievable outcome to our perilous plight and as many would agree Matt is up there with Ted Bates and having witnessed many of the Ted Bates years there really is no higher praise than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 You have already slagged MLT off in your pathetic defence of Lowe. NineSunThirdFlashTeenDanceMan CanBeatBearManTeen will support anyone the majority aren't keen on and conversely have a pop at those who the majority are in support of, regardless of the merits of debate one way or the other, as it is classic trolling technique. Expect many more pops at anyone in order to create some "Scooby" type of fun:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 You have already slagged MLT off in your pathetic defence of Lowe. There is an unbelievable gulf between the expectations of Newcastle fans and Saints fans and you know it. Please show me a post of mine where I have slagged off MLT. Questioning a person's approach to a radio interview is different to 'slagging him off'. Didn't Ian Wright say on Talk Sport not so long ago that Newcastle, Southampton and Coventry fans were the worst in the country with their over inflated expectations and constant moaning - or words to that effect. I think there are a number of interesting parallels between us and Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Who cares what Numpty Canteen thinks I have had him and Sumdunce on ignore for months? Can't they just go away and get help now that St Rupert has gone - please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Please show me a post of mine where I have slagged off MLT. Trawling through the hundreds, nay sorry thousands of posts which you have written Nineteen either under your current name or under one of your many alternative names is not something that many people would want to do!! A death sentence would be more preferable. I am sure that you slagged off MLT. I have seen you do so when he played against Charlton. Or was it against Leeds. I forget which team you supported in those days. You slag off most club legends. I am sure that MLT is somewhere on your hit list. Oh by the way. Any idea what Justin Fashanu is up to these days??? :-) :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 NineSunThirdFlashTeenDanceMan CanBeatBearManTeen will support anyone the majority aren't keen on and conversely have a pop at those who the majority are in support of, regardless of the merits of debate one way or the other, as it is classic trolling technique. Expect many more pops at anyone in order to create some "Scooby" type of fun:rolleyes: Usual rubbish Um I see and still believing the majority on this forum represents the wider fan base when clearly it does not as proven by recent protest marches and fund raising events. Other than a heavy reliance on this forum how were those fund raising events publicised? I won't be holding my breath but one day you may actually get involved with a discussion as oppose to childish name calling. Are you a teacher? Do your students respect you? Finally with regard to MLT he is the greatest player and biggest legend this club has ever had and likely to ever have. However, he now enters a whole new field of expertise and if he is appointed chairman for example then he is in an altogether different ball game and any sensible person would support him but at the same time reserve their judgement following a suitable period of probation. IMO his playing style and general demeanour don't exactly shout football chairman but if he can deliver then undoubtedly there could be no one better and more respected but at the moment nothing is certain and hysterical celebrations are unhelpful as they unfairly raise the level of expectation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Right on the money TT. Matty was on a cushty number at Sky. He is risking a lot coming back. The easy option would have been for him to stand by and let someone else get their hands dirty. That is the measure of the man imo! The word Legend is used far too often nowadays. When speaking of Matt there can be no doubt about this title in his case.He's up there with Ted Bates. A true Saints hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Trawling through the hundreds, nay sorry thousands of posts which you have written Nineteen either under your current name or under one of your many alternative names is not something that many people would want to do!! A death sentence would be more preferable. I am sure that you slagged off MLT. I have seen you do so when he played against Charlton. Or was it against Leeds. I forget which team you supported in those days. You slag off most club legends. I am sure that MLT is somewhere on your hit list. Oh by the way. Any idea what Justin Fashanu is up to these days??? :-) :-) Hunting with your usual pack I see. Hopefully you start searching and achieve your preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Agree with everything that has been said but we cannot deny that MLT is risking his reputation and deserved status as a legend in the truest sense of the word. If things go badly wrong and we end up back in a situation that caused him to leave his 'cushty' Sky numberin the first place then I fear the worse. Seems there is a bubbling sense of unease at Newcastle with Shearer already and that is a club that uncannily replicates our own expectations at times IMO. The main difference is Shearer is manager up there and as so is responsible for the team, the tactics, the motivation of players etc etc. Matt will not have that role, that will be down to whoever he/they select as manager. Niall Quinn doesnt get ripped to bits when Sunderland are **** poor and Matt will be, I believe, in a similar role to him. So really comparing the two is not relevant.....besides the Geordies treat football as their religion, I think we are a tad more reserved down here ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 The main difference is Shearer is manager up there and as so is responsible for the team, the tactics, the motivation of players etc etc. Matt will not have that role, that will be down to whoever he/they select as manager. Niall Quinn doesnt get ripped to bits when Sunderland are **** poor and Matt will be, I believe, in a similar role to him. So really comparing the two is not relevant.....besides the Geordies treat football as their religion, I think we are a tad more reserved down here ! I accept the comment about the manager but I was not suggesting Matty will be manager and agree if anything he will perform a role similar to Quinn who after a good start is looking a little more shaky. Point is though no matter how big the legend if you go back you will ultimately be judged on your current and not past performance. How many newcastle fans will want Keegan back. I hope it doesn't happen to MLT but I think he is taking a massive risk with regard to his 24ct reputation and I respect him for that and hope he can deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 2 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Guys, let's just commit to giving Matty every piece of support that we possibly can, bare in mind his huge contribution and loyalty. Maybe we could find it in our hearts to be more understanding with him than some random Joe Blow that may or may not have been involved. He deserves better backing than almost any other person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Well said tim, without wanting to sound happy clappy, that is the right attitude to have. I think that mlt deserves more than a 'probationary period' 19! Right now we all need to ride on the wave of optimism. Do not contimplate failure, a winning mentality is needed from top to bottom from the very start. A positive attitude can get you a long way & should not be underestimated. Mlt can unite a club which has been divided for at least 10 years in truth, that thought alone is exciting - the dawn of a fresh start for once. Go on smile, it hasn't happend enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 I won't be holding my breath but one day you may actually get involved with a discussion as oppose to childish name calling. I often do enter in to discussions and debates with those across the Saints supporting spectrum, just not with trolls who have too many user names that it is impossible to keep up with. Are you also logged on to the Charlton, Leeds, Basingstoke, Andover, Salisbury & Villa forums??? Do you have multiple ID's on there as well??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Comparisons with what Newcastle fans think of either Shearer or Keegan are completely wide of the mark, as both had stints as manager and came unstuck. The comparison with Quinn at Sunderland is much closer to being on the money, except that Le Tiss was much more loved because he was a one club man and had been more instrumental as an individual in keeping us up time after time. Tying himself in with this bid just increases his standing with the fans, but even if things don't turn out well with them, he won't be blamed for getting involved, as most will see that he has once again stood up to be counted when things appeared bleak for the club he loves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Comparisons with what Newcastle fans think of either Shearer or Keegan are completely wide of the mark, as both had stints as manager and came unstuck. The comparison with Quinn at Sunderland is much closer to being on the money, except that Le Tiss was much more loved because he was a one club man and had been more instrumental as an individual in keeping us up time after time. Tying himself in with this bid just increases his standing with the fans, but even if things don't turn out well with them, he won't be blamed for getting involved, as most will see that he has once again stood up to be counted when things appeared bleak for the club he loves. Absolutely Right ! For all his years of loyalty, for all the pleasure he gave us in his playing pomp, and for standing up for the club in its greatest hour of need makes this man untouchable in my eyes. I look forward to the day when his statue adorns the front of SMS beside Ted's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Matt is taking the same role in this as Gary Linaker did in the leicester City take over ie nothing more than putting his name on the packaging. I fully expect him to have nothing todo with the day to day running of the club and the only involvment will be a continuation of his ambasador role. He doesn't have the skills for anything else and he knows it, this take over isn't a case of Matt comming chanrging in on a white horse with a suitcase full of money it is a clever group of individuals who have convinced him to be the public face knowing it will make the bid more acceptable to the fans than any other. Like everything else in football these days it is business pure and simple at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Matt is taking the same role in this as Gary Linaker did in the leicester City take over ie nothing more than putting his name on the packaging. I fully expect him to have nothing todo with the day to day running of the club and the only involvment will be a continuation of his ambasador role. He doesn't have the skills for anything else and he knows it, this take over isn't a case of Matt comming chanrging in on a white horse with a suitcase full of money it is a clever group of individuals who have convinced him to be the public face knowing it will make the bid more acceptable to the fans than any other. Like everything else in football these days it is business pure and simple at the end of the day. Alex I hope you are right as that is the role I would like to see MLT in as it does not risk his reputation. I would love him to have a role similar to Charlton's at Man U and a permanent presence as a lifetime board director. For all his undoubted abilities he doesn't strike me as obvious chairman fodder (tbh though neither did Quinn) but if he is given that role as seems to be the general consensus then I fear he could become a fallen hero as much as he could become a bigger legend than Bates. Its 50/50 but IMO I would prefer if MLT was around for the rest of his days with his reputation untarnished and that may not happen given this club's recent history and attitude of some fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 This is going to be hard for us questioning, inquisitive and second-guessing Saints fans. It is in our very nature to say 'what if...?', 'why?, 'who says so?', 'where has it gone?' etc...but in the case of MLT we are talking about someone completely unique in the annals of Southampton Football Club, the city itself and especially our supporters. I really think he is putting himself right in our cross-hairs so to speak, by doing something very gallant that most wouldn't touch with the proverbial bargepole FFS. So what's my point, personally I believe that under no circumstance should we display anything but belief, support and appreciation towards this chosen one. That's just me, as individuals you have to do what your heart/mind tells you. However, I do implore everyone to remember this unique soul and how he and he alone made our 'football' lives bareable on too many occasions to accurately recall. Let's not do what some many other clubs/fans do and ever, I repeat ever turn on Le Tizz. The Spurs - Hoddle thing is a classic reminder of how it shouldn't become...yes I reallize it is not so likely that MLT will be manager, but you get my drift. Let's hope he can be there to help try and save us again, never forget and never turn on him!! The very thought is Blasphemy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Right on the money TT. Matty was on a cushty number at Sky. He is risking a lot coming back. The easy option would have been for him to stand by and let someone else get their hands dirty. That is the measure of the man imo! The word Legend is used far too often nowadays. When speaking of Matt there can be no doubt about this title in his case. 100%, feck it 150% agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 I'm sure Matt would be really worried about being slagged off by Nineteen Troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Matt is taking the same role in this as Gary Linaker did in the leicester City take over ie nothing more than putting his name on the packaging. I fully expect him to have nothing todo with the day to day running of the club and the only involvment will be a continuation of his ambasador role. He doesn't have the skills for anything else and he knows it, this take over isn't a case of Matt comming chanrging in on a white horse with a suitcase full of money it is a clever group of individuals who have convinced him to be the public face knowing it will make the bid more acceptable to the fans than any other. Like everything else in football these days it is business pure and simple at the end of the day. This is how I see it too - I really hope that this is the case. Matt has done his bit for the club, and more. It is actually a very sad state of affairs that we have to turn to the guy who probably did more on the field to save us, and ask him to do it again off the field. But once again - it appears that Matt has come through. If he wants a place within the club, he deserves a position where he cannot be shot at, he has earned this right in my opinion. The club should recognise Matts iconic status amongst fans both young and old and do everything in their power to, yes use, but more importantly preserve. SFC do not have too many 'true' legends - and those we do have deserve protection. Matt for manager - not for me thanks - thats where the flak flys and the guy deserves none. Give him an ambassadorial role and pay him well, lets be honest - he stuck with us through thick and thin when he could have made big bucks elsewhere, it's the least he now deserves. For everything - thanks Matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Shearer succeeded as a footballer through sheer single-mindedness. MLT through natural ability and an intelligence which, and I don't mean to insult, Shearer just doesn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Whatever MLT does from now he's already done more for this club than virtually anyone else. Like Lawrie Mac he's beyond slagging off for me although I think he'll be more effective than many are giving him credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Whatever MLT does from now he's already done more for this club than virtually anyone else. Like Lawrie Mac he's beyond slagging off for me although I think he'll be more effective than many are giving him credit for. If we're looking for someone to increase our catering income, most definitely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Agree TT. I hope he gets a seat on the board, but would prefer to see him not involved with the operational side of the club. Keep him for PR and home games - and PK coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Agree TT. I hope he gets a seat on the board, but would prefer to see him not involved with the operational side of the club. Keep him for PR and home games - and PK coach. Surely, surely, surely, there is a NATIONAL job for him to do here? Deadly serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Let's hope he can be there to help try and save us again, never forget and never turn on him!! Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 2 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Agree TT. I hope he gets a seat on the board, but would prefer to see him not involved with the operational side of the club. Keep him for PR and home games - and PK coach. ....or just as a magnificent inspirational of the pure joy of (Southampton) football... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 2 June, 2009 Share Posted 2 June, 2009 Matt is a true Saint through and through. (And would have been a great cricketer for hampshire!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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