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I think the "who" thing has caught on because it's only a few years ago we were used to watching the Beckhams and Lampards every week, now were playing nobodies week in week out. I just watched them today but I couldn't name one Tranmere player.

What is a handout then? If I lose my job and end up on benefits I will receive handouts, I've paid tax all my life, it doesn't stop them being handouts.

Easiest 2-0 I've ever seen. Guly MOTM, think Schneiderlin has lost his place. Great stuff!

That's nonsense, we all pay tax so that there is a health service, police and the streets are kept clean. People getting cash for having a kid is a handout IMO.

Sort of dispels the myth of Saints having a bad hooligan problem.

That's the problem, governments should be able to ensure there is some fairness in society, at the moment they are completely powerless. I'm not anti-capitalist but capitalism without control is just survival of the fittest at it's worst.

I don't have anything against success, my mate has made millions selling sub-prime mortgages and I don't begrudge him a penny. He worked his ass off and took the risks. He hates paying tax and exploits every loop-hole there is to avoid it. If we up the tax rate there is no way he will move abroad though, he is settled here with his family. I think we could get away with taxing the higher level at least another 5% without too many leaving. You have to remember that every pound your mate's company makes has come out of the pocket of someone else - who would also have spent it on services, products etc. By having a few super rich it doesn't mean they are contributing any more, we all contribute.

Not another post noshing off your hero Mark! We all pay tax, we all contribute to the economy and public services - the lower/middle earners contribute more in total than people like lovely Mark. If Mark buys a million shares for £1 each and sells them for £5 each he is a hero because he has made his company a fortune. He hasn't created any wealth though, he's just taken wealth from one part of society and put it in his company's bank account. They pay some in tax and keep most for themselves - they have taken more out than what they have put back in.

I'm gonna have to look into what handouts I can get hold of then, I've been paying tax for years as well.

I just shocked that people earning 40K were actually receiving state handouts, ****ing madness. Then there is this new rule to limit benefits to 26K a year! 26K tax free for doing **** all - no wonder this country is broke.

The problem is "'er indoors teaching kids and shaping the future" could very well soon be out of work and on benefits because banker Mark doesn't want to give up too much of his millions in bonuses.

Have you still not learned a thing? Size of debt is not important, it's your ability to service it.

You have to give him credit for getting the stadium built and he did OK with the academy. His personality flaws and lack of understanding of football were his downfall. While some of his ideas in theory were sound he made some barking mad decisions.

You've highlighted the problem, the big financial companies will continue to take the **** and the World's governments are completely powerless to take the appropriate action because they will just threaten to move to another country. Everything is carrying on exactly as before, only now I don't see the government bailing anyone out.

But athleticism is only part of what being a footballer is about, there is no point being fit physically if you are not fit mentally. I think it does footballers good to let of steam every now and again because being a footballer is a pressurised job. Being unfit will effect their performance, but so will being unhappy.

There is nothing wrong with staying out to 3am, or having a few beers. Sure drinking too much, or drinking too near a game is not on but one night out letting off steam is not a bad thing. Getting in a fight is dumb though. Didn't Brian Clough take his Forest team out for a beer the night before they won the European Cup? "I like women and I like to go out and enjoy myself, which is why people can identify with me. The night has always been my friend. When I go out I feel good, then I always score goals." Romario

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To be fair, if a boxer and cage fighter were attacking me I would stuff a bottle in their face.

I agree that Solar activity is the main influence but I think you will find that solar activity has decreased since the 80's so wouldn't explain the temperature rise. Co2 being a consequence is also a fair point, it's a complex science that is not fully understood, but we ARE pumping billions of tons of it into the atmosphere and it DOES absorb more heat and temperature HAVE risen - they are all facts. No one knows what will happen in the future, we could be screwed like Lovelock says or the Earth might regulate itself, or Global Warming could be a good thing if we are heading for another ice age. I still think the sensible thing to do is use renewable energy though if only because of the peak oil scenario.

Agree, the way they have linked these threats in with a drone missile attack in Pakistan is so contrived. As if you need to fly out to Pakistan to organize a terrorist attack in Europe.

Maybe the human rights thing doesn't apply if the Police are keeping you locked in for your own safety - that could explain why it was OK to lock us in for ages at Skatesville and Millwall. Whatever the reason the Police obviously have not been doing their job properly at both the Pompey and Bournemouth games. Locking them in would have stopped any of the trouble outside the Northam end. Football crowds tend to disperse quite quickly, any one seriously intent on violence will do it regardless away from the ground and the Police cameras.

Long overdue, would make a good partner for either Rooney or Defoe IMO.

The Whitehouse is just a bar, there is nothing wrong with Barnard being there at 3am having a few beers (along as it's not too much). He's 20 something, has money to burn and had just won a derby game so was probably still buzzing with the adrenalin - I'm not surprised he didn't fancy staying in watching Xfactor. Like most people his age would he went out to have a laff and find some slapper. Unfortunately he appears to have screwed up big time.

I expect some of he lowest crowds were in the 1890's.

Saints fans can't have human rights then because I remember being kept in loads of times.