StrangelyBrown

It seems our indecision isn't solely down to Les as many have suggested beforehand. Given Les' track record we should have had a replacement lined up already and said replacement should have already been brought in with their choice of manager. Another systemic failure... This stuff isn't hard. Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

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That would be a step in the right direction... Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

In what way is the football more aesthetically pleasing? We're playing some of the wrost stuff I've seen in years. There is literally nothing progressive or innovative about it. We have become the antithesis of the supposed Southampton way; **** football, no progression from the academy and doing nothing that sets us apart from the rest. Depressing times. Sent from my Lenovo TB-X304F using Tapatalk

Because they are both box to box hard working midfielders. Neither never have been defensive midfielders,b but a so called football expert like yourself would no that, whereas a qualified football coach like myself wouldn't. Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

Completely agree. Also hoedt gets another chance despite being completely cock last week whereas Stephens gets the chop. Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

No defensive midfield again. We'll get overrun in midfield while we "try" to win. There's no one in that team to counteract Watford's physicality. Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

That's kind of my point. Hughes should be just as vulnerable as he was before Reed left. His only excuse could possibly be "Les told me to", otherwise he's just hopelessly out of his depth. Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

IMO the only way Hughes should get more time is if the line up he uses on Saturday suddenly includes different players (as if to imply les was interfering) and we play a better brand of football. Unfortunately the line ups, tactics, etc will ask be the same. I also dread to think about the utter crap we would bring in if Hughes has his say. Geoff Cameron anyone?? Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

Players don't suddenly forget how to do the basics - very few of our players lack technical ability (long is clearly an exception). Unfortunately players can become unfit, lack sharpness, struggle to understand their positions or the positions of those around them, be mentally weak, ... All of these things stem from poor coaching and ask of them are things I've seen constantly over the last two years. Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

We'll set up to go for it and will get over run in midfield. 1-2 to Watford Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

I disagree entirely about talent - you can't draw any conclusions. Puel was a decent manager, but his style of football was dreadful and he got mostly decent results out of this team. Mopo was hopelessly out of his depth so you can't judge the capability of the team as quite clearly the players didn't understand what the manager was trying to do. Hughes again is a hopeless manager (in the modern game) and clearly hasn't a clue how to win a game of football. Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

6 mins without conceding - we've turned a corner! Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

This... I'm worried that it will be a small margin i.e. 1-0 or 2-0 and Hughes will get more time Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

"In business...." What a load of cobblers. In business if you are clearly out of your depth you get the chop very quickly particularly if results aren't good enough. Les is surviving on past reputation and that results haven't been quite bad enough to justify a change. However, he must be feeling the heat at the moment particularly after a number of wasteful signings, a number of failed managerial appointments and a poor season last year. I could name 10 good things that les has done. Hughes on the other hand is a genuine struggle; he's got Redmond playing better, he's kept Fraser out of the 1st team, he kept us up last year, ... But then I can't find much more to say. This isn't about having an agenda - it's about recognising that Hughes is out of his depth and therefore should be given the chop especially as results have been woeful. Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

Has he gone yet? This was one game we should have won and we didn't. If we can't pick up 3 points against a bottom 3 side at home we're going down. Simply not good enough. A less than bang average team with a half decent manager would have won today. Unfortunately we are **** and have another clown in charge. It's going to be a long season Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

He doesn't, he runs around a lot. End of Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

Hughes has all but signed his own p45... Charlie Austin ffs Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

In answer to the original question, watching ormerod practice kick ups before one game told me everything I needed to know about him - a world record of 3 was the best he could manage. However, he mostly knew where the goal was. Long on the other hand seems to have no idea what he is supposed to shoot at (or do on a football field) and for me is not a footballer, just a very fast pest. So it's a no brainer for me - Brett. For the other question, Rickie every time. By far and away our most natural finisher for a long long time. Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

For me: McCarthy Cedric Stephens hoedt Bertrand Hojberg lemina Redmond Armstrong Ely Gabbi/ings Subs: Gunn, targett, obafemi, Romeu, vestergard, ings/Gabbi, jwp Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

Is it a requirement to always have one **** striker on the pitch in a mark Hughes 442? Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

That's perfectly easy to understand, but isn't what is being suggested - the suggestion is that players over 30 are somehow better leaders, which is complete nonsense. Thid is the sort of short term thinking that leads to a massive waste of money (e.g. West ham, Everton, ..) - hardly surprising in the age that demands instant results, but we aren't a big enough club to sustain losing money needlessly. Recruiting decent players over thirty generally means high wages and a relatively rapid decline in usefulness. Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

I find it odd that there is a suggestion that you need to be 30+ to be a leader. While experience helps, leadership is a matter of character and the fundamental problem is that we haven't signed anyone with any leadership qualities to replace those who have left. Signing a 32 year old is not going to guarantee leadership quality, but what it does guarantee is a diminishing return on investment. Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

Is this a call to turn into West ham and spunk money on players who used to be good 3 years ago.... At least we have a manager who has form for that sort of transfer strategy... Not that it worked for him Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

Not sure if believe hoedt is anything other than incompetence by Hughes. He's been playing long for weeks before finally the penny dropped. Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk