Lord Duckhunter

Playing with that intensity City would have beaten anybody bar Chelsea , they were really up for it. We were average and I thought we didn't really believe we could win. Small example,we've been constantly using short corner routines this season, but didn't yesterday. I just thought we were a bit too respectful. Victor did well, particularly first half and long made a impact when he came on. Pelle is too static against Kompany, and the two wide men were really poor.Personally I'd give long a run down the middle weds and give Pelle a rest.

Even if MS had stayed on I think we'd still have lost. City get beat when they go through the motions , yesterday they worked hard and played well. Not really a lot Ron could have done.

Perhaps we should wait till after the Man utd and Chelsea games. We can then copy their songs , just change the words.

WTF

Rip, really sad news. A real freak accident . I remember the going over the west Indies gave Brian Close when he was in his 40's in pre pure helmet days. Seems unbelievable that they just batted with the odd bit of padding.

Again, the voice of reason. The simple facts are that The Williams sisters would wipe the floor with any a average Joe playing tennis. Same as running , Jess Ennis would be far quicker than the average Joe. It is elite sport and therefore deserves it place on TV. Chick football is not elite , it is rubbish . Most pub teams could batter the women's national team . The standard is hopeless it doesn't deserve the billing it gets. It could be packaged as a novelty , like sports aid or that match that the celebs play. It could even be marketed as a " look at these pretty little things kicking a ball about" type of show . What I object to is not them playing the game, but people trying to take it seriously and making out people who don't are dinosaurs . It isn't on TV because there's a demand for it or because it's elite sport , it's political correctness . I wonder what the birds who play netball for England think about it. They have more talent yet get overlooked because they don't play a mans sport. That's hardly empowering women, piggybacking on the back of men.

Spot on

If men didn't play tennis , women's tennis would still be interesting and a credible sport to show on TV. Same with athletics and swimming. Women's football and cricket are not, without the men's game they are not a valid sport to attract this level of media and TV interest.

Tickets were £15 and £1 for kids.However, Fa charter clubs could have 10 free and then it was £7.50 per ticket for them. So I doubt they took **** all at the box office. "The Dog and Duck v Hunde und ente" would sell out what is basically a visit to the new Wembley with a game thrown in. I would be interested in how many regular football supporters went. I suspect it was mainly kids and wimmin lib types, with a few metro sexual types thrown in. Did anyone on this forum go, because there's normally a few who do go to Wembley England games normally.

Nobody is saying they can't play it, just that they are rubbish at it and it is political correctness rather than demand that gets it on the beeb.They should be encouraged to play as its good for their health and well being, but that doesn't justify the nonsense about the " England Team" . Chick cricket is the same , completely over exposed for a minority pastime. They wouldn't cover a load of hairy arsed builders doing Billy Elliot's on BBC 4 . The only reason its on is so metro sexual males can make out their enlightened and in touch with their feminine side. I bet hardly anybody watched it apart from under the thumb hubbys, pervs, screaming girls/women and teen boys. I used to hate the school boy internationals as the crowd got on my wick, I bet this was 10 times worse.

That's nonsense . Women's tennis gets the prominence it deserves because it is a decent sport that is credible . A weekend tennis player would not be able to live with the modern top women players , it is elite sport. Running is the same . Jessica Ennis would be ahead of me every time ( not a bad thing as I'd cop a look at her nice arse) and again it is elite sport. Womens football is not, it is shocking . I dread to think how low down the leagues you'll have to go to reach the equilvent level , maybe down to the local park. I honestly reckon I've seen better Sunday league keepers than those lot (and some are fitter) . The BBC wouldn't show The Red Lion v The Dog and Duck , would they ? It is not elite sport and shouldn't be marketed as such. The other thing that annoys me is the attitude of the pro chick football lobby . Most women would rather watch men's football , yet you're considered a dinosaur if you say it's rubbish . The funny thing about the feminists who preach about it is that they are getting exposure on the back of the men's game. My lad went to a presentation evening for a local non league side as he played for the under 14's. I went along and bumped into a guy who I used to play with years ago. It was a big do , as thy were a decent local outfit with teams from under 9's up to adults. I asked him "what age group is your lad in " and his mrs went off on one . Turns out his daughter played for the girls team ( they had one girls team) , his mrs was like a crazy women . " girls play football, you're a sexist for assuming it was a boy" , **** sake . It probably didn't help when I said " calm down dear" , and to be fair the bloke was clearly embarrassed by her over reaction, but that was the attitude . I had a load of " soccer mums" screwing me up like I was some sort of Sid James character . Bloody hell nobody died , I didn't attack anyone or make racist remarks , I just asked an old team mate what age group his " lad" was in. That's what they're like these soccer wimmin , seeing sexism and prejudice at every turn . Blooming great chips on the shoulders because deep down they know their football is rubbish, but don't want a rational debate about it.

Maybe, but that'll take a long time.

But that's the point Bear , they don't do good football . You can either watch women's sport for a look at some fine fillies or watch a decent sporting event . All we get at the moment is a load of halfmen playing shiete sport. We get the worst of both worlds

To be fair to the skates , they have done a fantastic marketing job over this nonsense. When meeting fans of other clubs , they do seem to know we're "scummers " . When discussing football with other supporters they must spend half their time whining about us. It has happened to me a lot, on hols ect , get in a discussion about football and it comes up.

It's shocking , terrible standard, particularly the keepers. I'd see a better game watching the dog and duck on a Sunday morning. It's like the emperors new clothes , everyone in the media is so polite and encouraging over it , but deep down they know it's terrible. It wouldn't be so bad if they were pretty fit and wore beach volleyball type get up , but most of them are dog rough . I'm not an old dinosaur that doesn't want women involved in football , the women Lino is great and Mrs Duck would make a good ref as she has eyes in the back of her head and seems to know exactly what I'm up to. But , I don't want my licence fee going on this rubbish . I'm afraid to say it, but women commentators are rubbish as well. That Oakley women has a real nagging voice and I've stopped listening to "The Game" podcast as that annoying Rudd bird seems to be on every week. Fat bald middle aged men , like myself , should confine themselves to watching the game and so should the fairer sex. It's political correctness and quotas , nothing to do with ability. They wouldn't televise a veterans walking game, so why televise this nonsense.

Why does Gerrard have to take that free kick, we've seen Rickie bang them in from there

Lol What we need is more owners like Whelan and more British managers like Malkey , who do these foreigners think they are commenting on our racist Brits?

Surely putting a picture of a voters house, without their permission and seemingly in a sneering manner is a spectacular lack of judgement. Can you imagine the uproar Labour would have made if a Tory cabinet member did this. What made this so toxic for Milliband is that it plays into the narrative that they are London elite that doesn't understand the working people.

The polling expert on By election special last night said that UKIP will present a greater danger to the Tory party in May, but long term from 2020 onwards could cause Labour real problems.

The labour fightback begins, Ed has just said he "feels respect" every time he sees a white van.

Nice to see ukip's Suzanne Evans on election special. Shame the establishment parties went for white middle aged men all night. Looks like Daves vow to kick Reckless' fat arse off the benches was wrong . lol at lib/dumbs , 349 lol

Got to laugh at Alan Johnson on This Week." Emily came from a poor background herself" . According to some on Twitter her Dad was a prof, from kings collage who went on to become assistant Secretary General of the UN , my the poverty she must have known. Poor girl . What makes it funny is that "she's done nothing wrong" according to senior labour figures, why resign then? Like Browns bigot moment it's more proof that this elite labour leadership despise the working people they claim to stand up for.

What, accept that the burden of proof is " guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" ? Yes they should. You're not proposing a lower threshold for rape than other crimes are you? What about " maybe he's guilty" or " perhaps he did it" .

And here lies the problem with rape convictions. The women's lib lobby try to point to low conviction rates as proof of some sort of institutionalised sexism, that victims aren't taken seriously and police officers are some sort of Sid James types . The reality of the figures is that by its very nature a lot of rapes are going to be hard to prove " beyond a reasonable doubt" . Consent will be one persons word against another. Whether people like it or not there is always going to be grey areas. Consent is very often implied and a testosterone filled male could easily misread signals. I believe schools now do a bit of education around this, which is a good thing. There must be situations where the bird is convinced she was raped and the fella convinced she wasn't. I'm sure that some are not even sure whether they were raped or not ,and there must be plenty of women who blame themselves for a misjudgement rather than see themselves as a victim. Alcohol will play a part in many situations , which again muddy the waters.It must also be very difficult to prove rape were a chick has been up for certain things,ie oral, but draws the line at penetration , as any witness to her earlier behaviour in public could say she was kissing , holding hands , willingly went home with him ,etc . All these factors added together make it the difficult crime to prove beyond a reasonable doubt except in the most violent of cases and the prosecution and conviction rates prove this. It is not because of any failings with society, just the high burden of proof required.

For me there are a few differences . After the summer it's great to prove people wrong , it's also great that Poch , Lovren and Lallana are below us and Rodgers is making a twt of himself. We have a manager who seems humble and respectful and I also love Sammy Lees enthusiasm . It's great to see Jose getting international call up and settling in so well as skipper But the main thing for me is we're winning games we can win. Every one eyed supporter in the land will look at every game bar the top 4/5 and predict a win. It never happens normally , but it is for us. Bar west brom at home we've won every "winnable" game . Long may it continue .