Saint86

Sorry but that is clearly bullcrap.... they must no less about football than they do modelling to have Newcastle above 18th. You should always sense check your calculations, otherwise it is just plane embarrasing when mistakes like that get published. Interesting link though, thanks for sharing

I would argue that Bertrand needs as much game time as possible to get himself fully match fit. And England internationals aren't the most strenuous of occasions... in this instance his call up is very good for saints?

The following our home grown players now playing for the big 4 from just our club. Oxlade - Arsenal Walcott - Arsenal Chambers - Arsenal Clyne - Liverpool Lallana - Liverpool Ings - Liverpool Morgan - United Shaw - United Not really that bad a spread of home grown talen amongst the big clubs, and hardly surprising that given we have sold that much of the golden generation we have to wait a couple of seasons for the next big bunch to come to fruition. Arsenal have a lot of British players, as do United and Liverpool, Chelsea have a lot coming through but its either too much fun to knock them or just other fan's ignorance in writing them off. They still play Terry and Cahil at CB most games regardless. As for our "smattering" We can still field Long, Bertrand, Targett, JWP, Reed, Hesketh, McQueen, Debyao, Seager, Gallagher, stephens, turnbull etc etc (e.g. the next generation) if we wished, not to mention having Forster injured. I don't think your comment is particularity fair on a lot of the top clubs nor on saints. You simply can't sell in the numbers we have and expect the next generation to be ready at the click of the fingers.... they are there, the club has committed to them and their development, but they just need a few years to develop. Then you have clubs like Everton and Spurs who are laden with British talents in recent years. Compared to the past 10 years the growth and numbers of English talents has certainly turned the corner and looks promising.

Hahaha Brilliant! You'll get my backing, unfortunately I can't imagine our fanbase singing Oasis tunes.

Goig good so far. lol at all the morons that never wanted to see JWP and Davis in the same side. They know so much more than Koeman, its a realy wonder that they aren't earning millions every year as a football manager

Fair review bud, sadly when we flog almost and entire first team in 12months there aren't many songs left to sing.

Think that is rather derogatory for not much reason Batman. They are a club that are struggling, but still have a far bigger fanbase that us and fans that are more passionate. Mock them for their league form and their attitude from the fans that they are still managed by keagan and should be challenging for the top 4.... but not for losing in the cup... Plenty of teams do that, including us.

You (and a lot of others) are moaning about his decision to play Yoshi at right back, but ignore that for 25min united were played off the pitch and we could have been 2 or 3 up. (I was under the impression that Cedric has a slight injury anyway?) Anyway, for whatever reason the game changed yesterday. Whether that came from the players or the manager or LVG changing something I don't know. But Koeman set us up very well at the start so attacking his decision to play Yoshi is flawed. He made one awful mistake (just as Fonte did last year) and other than that he kept Depay very quiet which was his job. We lost the midfield, Romeu offered absolutely nothing and was rightly subbed for Davis. The only comments I would have is that the back line looked very shakey and were making very silly back passes all game. I said this in the first half and that eventually United will read it and just take a gamble in it... and sure enough we conceded. The other comment I have, is that the defence were too deep and left the midfield isolated. Seem to be a huge gap between the defenders and midfield attack which united just swarmed into. When coupled with the fact that we gave them 2 goals through complete lack of pressing it is hardly surprising that we are all ****ed off given the start. Lets not forget, Their first goal was offside and prior to this it was a penalty of JWP. We completely outplayed them on chances created and would have scored 4 without De Gea making cracking save after cracking save. It is noticeable that Koeman is down at present as well, the board let him down this summer and his recent injury can not have helped. Plus going out of europe and wasting all of last years hard work is a massive psychological burden on the team. All in all, we have had a bit of a mare so far. All we can do now is aim for mid table and go on a cup run. Who knows, we may completely turn it around and push for 7th again. But at the moment, we miss Clyne, we miss toby, we miss morgan and we miss Forster. (I think Target is getting better and better and is a very decent stand in) but ofc, we miss Bertrand as well. As for the people slagging off Prowse after yesterdays game, it was a cracking cross for the goal, he put in a good shift and was certainly not one of the players who let themselves down. I thought young Matty did very well (again) and its a shame he picked up that knock. Mane was superb again (our best player) and pelle was good.

Can we all just accept that Les Reed and co have dropped a clanger this summer and move on.

yeah, they go on strike and refuse t play for us

Likewise, would love it, but won't happen / Can't see it... He wants holland or barcelona

We may not have been as professional and at such a high level when Nigel was here. But the heart and soul of the club was very much diminished when he went and has not been recovered. I'd rather potter along with him as manager and have relegation scraps every year than come 8th every other season and get knocked out of europe playing long ball. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed poch and think Koeman is a very good manager for us. But Nigel was getting on top of it when he went, and that man lived and breathed the "football club" as much as any fan. Watching it now brings both a smile to my face and reminds me how gutted he was when he was sacked. Bittersweet interview to say the least!

Your logic is flawed mate, JWP plays more for saints now than he did at the start. Not only that, but the quality of the saints first 11 has improved immeasurably since that first game. By your own argument, you are saying that JWP hasn't improved... whilst also saying indirectly that he has improved just by still being in a team in which players have improved....

Your post comes across as both ageist and sexist to be honest... Skinny Jeans (your view of youngsters i presume) and middle aged men are not good enough for saints... Nor are women.... So you have just slated a good chunk of the population. Our support dies out because we have no songs. We have no songs because Les sells all the fans players... He sells the players because we have given up on chasing the dream of the top spots and instead are targeted at being a top 10 prem team that makes money. Under this ownership model the fans can't see us every achieving much and with this no realisation the other aspect that made our support so great (hope/belief and confidence in success) is being undermined. So we have no songs and are all sat there wondering what is the point of it all... We have little interest in achieving top 4, we played long ball in europe, and all our favourite players have been sold. Let me think... "Ricky Lambert... Southampton's goal machine" "Guly" "La la la Luke shaw" "Super Kelv" "Steve" He who shall not be named played on the left, right, centre and also made Messi look ****e..." Even stuff like "Michail Antonio!" in compairson, the current squad have been with us very little time.... Forster - 1 year, and injured and has no song Bertrand - 1 year and injured and has no song Cedric - 2 months? no song FONTE - OLD TIMER WITH SONG!!! YEAH!! VVD, CAULKER - 2MONTHS? No song Yoshi - Squad player, no song unless that "maya hee" effort has made it to the stands? Wanyama - took us 2 years to come up with an embarrasment of a song that is worse than what celtic had JWP - Squad Player no song Davis - Hard to sing a song about mr consistent non excitement lets be honest. Tadic - 1 YEAR AND HAS A SONG!!! WOOP WOOP Mane - Crying out for a radio gaga chant. Jayrod - Had 1 good season with us, no song. Pelle - Um, not really? The club decimates the team in the space of 12months, the fans lose their connection to it and the atmosphere suffers? Go figure right? #southamptonway

So from POL, what I can tell you is that they are under investigation for racist chanting by the police and their stewards are recorded as doing nothing about it and allowing it to continue, this surely is fairly serious?

I don't understand, have you stopped going then?

One of those 2 goals he was ill for the game.... and koeman said as much. Poor marking in centre both both goals also.

Gets him away from the running of the club for a month.... good news I say

Quite. People who get on the rooney bandwagon give support to our very medicore FA and England set up and directly support how crap we are. Rooney, whilst a good player, has never done it for england, and his goalscoring record counts for very little vs the Great england strikers.

Direct quote from pompey online describing westwood's actions recently.

Disagree completely. This happened and was kept quiet. However, we have clearly wanted to go into Syria for a while and the government felt they couldn't get the backing. The Syrian refugee crisis in Europe and the trouble it has caused has given them a way to get backing to go in. They can now construct the argument that intervention at source will help to stem the flow.... And on top of that, this assassination a few weeks ago was bound to get support, so by releasing it before the MP's vote was an easy way to get public support for action in Syria. Master stroke by the politicians and a good slap down for some scum on the way. Personally I would shoot anyone spreading the message of ISIS let alone someone actually actively organising terrorist attacks against my country. Yet if you read the guardian, defending the country against these people was ilegal, wrong, and the government should be hounded for it. Sorry, but it is very worrying when people take the side of these terrorists. You are either with them or against them, there is no middle ground and there should never be a middle ground. We are at war with these people in all but name, the country needs to wake up on mass and back their annihilation.

#England's Academy In all seriousness. Claise will take one of the 2 cdm spots and why the hell are people so quick to drop davis.

That is a shame, think he has/had amazing potential. So strong and fast with decent technique as well. Gave us the run around in the cup!

I don't like the guy, but he had opportunities to leave right back in league 1. Less revisionism from the fan base as a whole would seriously improve the emotional swings on here.