s0108787 Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 After tonight's game, If he plays this season we are doomed. Lancashire looked positively dire and panic stricken at the sight of the ball in front of him. Molyneux is crap, joseph mills is a far more promising prospect. On the plus side Thomas looks commanding and organises the defence around him. Poke looks fairly assured and is nice and vocal telling his defence where they shoud be. Forecast made a couple of good saves but looks generally a little shaky, his famed "dutch" distribution was terrible. Gillet was our best player in the 2nd half and looks a potential class act in League one. James is much better in the middle. lallana is not cutting the mustard, if a decent deal comes in for him we should sell. Rasiak looked genuinely interested tonight and showed a suprising turn of pace at times. His touch and control as well as his movement was head and shoulders above all of the youngsters, they would do well to watch his movement closely. I can only think that his apparent enthusiasm is down to watching scouts? Overall a fairly tepid display with a few positives, certainly we need some new blood and some decent, motivated, experienced pros. Also number 14 for Cheltenham looked a very decent prospect, the sort that we should be keeping a close eye on in the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Pulis likes to drink beer though so he be used in a project of how to waste a professional contract scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spades Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 how did murty do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Sounds positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 14 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2009 The Andrew Davies Sale must have gone like this: Stoke: We'll give you £1m for him... Saints: we want £1.1m... Stoke: (A.Pulis snr) ok but you have to give my boy 3 year contract 'cause he's special needs and i can't pull the wool over evryones eyes here any more... Saints: Done... Stoke: ...you have been! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 14 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Murty looked quite solid, a little rusty perhaps but that is to be expected. He started looking very tired towards the end, but i am confident he is well capable of doing a job in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Is Pulis on a 3 year deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 14 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Is Pulis on a 3 year deal? not sure, but you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 The Andrew Davies Sale must have gone like this: Stoke: We'll give you £1m for him... Saints: we want £1.1m... Stoke: (A.Pulis snr) ok but you have to give my boy 3 year contract 'cause he's special needs and i can't pull the wool over evryones eyes here any more... Saints: Done... Stoke: ...you have been! Managers and their sons. I think we have had a few before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacFad2207 Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Pulis was truly awful, miles off the pace, cant pass, cant tackle, rubbish positioning....you get my drift. Thomas was good, gillet our best player by miles. We need signings ASAP, most of this squad are not good enough by a long way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 14 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Pulis was truly awful, miles off the pace, cant pass, cant tackle, rubbish positioning....you get my drift. Thomas was good, gillet our best player by miles. We need signings ASAP, most of this squad are not good enough by a long way! well put young man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Pulis or Tessem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 ..and to think some of us got slated on here for criticising Lallana after Saturday...seems like nothing improved there then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Nor is Lancashire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 All reports confirming what most thought....At least 5/6 experienced players short of giving it half a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Watch it or somebody will give it the 'to early' and 'judgemental'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 A bit disappointing that a few of them are off the pace as 2 weeks ago they were looking at a spell on the "Old King Cole" so you would have thought they would have kept themselves a bit sharper............. Or having made it into the ranks of professional football do they think that they are never going to be out of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Yeah, agree with everything the OP says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy_Saint Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 The Andrew Davies Sale must have gone like this: Stoke: We'll give you £1m for him... Saints: we want £1.1m... Stoke: (A.Pulis snr) ok but you have to give my boy 3 year contract 'cause he's special needs and i can't pull the wool over evryones eyes here any more... Saints: Done... Stoke: ...you have been! I dont know mate. £1.1m for a player who still hasn't played for them yet. I think we were the ones who got the best deal out of this. Even if Pulis is gash i cant imagine hes costing anywhere near as much as Davies would have done sitting in our physio room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 15 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 15 July, 2009 I dont know mate. £1.1m for a player who still hasn't played for them yet. I think we were the ones who got the best deal out of this. Even if Pulis is gash i cant imagine hes costing anywhere near as much as Davies would have done sitting in our physio room. i hear what you're saying, but lets just take the footballing quality into account and remove the injury prone-ness from the issue. (Mind you, wasn't Pulis injured most of last season?). AD is a decent player, Pulis is anything but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 I dont know mate. £1.1m for a player who still hasn't played for them yet. I think we were the ones who got the best deal out of this. Even if Pulis is gash i cant imagine hes costing anywhere near as much as Davies would have done sitting in our physio room. He has. Davies started one and sub in another two games last season. Which I would suspect is better than a complete season of Pulis wasting the physio's time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MongoNeil Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 He has. Davies started one and sub in another two games last season. Which I would suspect is better than a complete season of Pulis wasting the physio's time. My Stoke supporting mate (my boss) says that AD was gash for them last season. In the two games he played he gave away a goal in each and effectively lost them those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 15 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 15 July, 2009 My Stoke supporting mate (my boss) says that AD was gash for them last season. In the two games he played he gave away a goal in each and effectively lost them those games. lets get him back on a free then!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 Anthony pulis is not a footballer Technically he is, he's just not a very good one;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsarum Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 Technically he is, he's just not a very good one;) Absolutely I'm sure that last night he gave away more fouls than accurate passes to his teamates, and most of the time he just wacked the bal hopeleesly forward. Callum McNish when he came on for Pulis showed how totaly inept he is, Callum by the way looked very good, got stuck in and passed the ball around well. Tom Dunford looked good too. Murty played well, considering he's not done much training and would be excellent at right back on this showing. Of the others thought Rasiak tried much harder than Saturday and played well, also thought Molyneux was OK at left back and Patterson played Ok but agree with others who thought Ollie was out of his depth again and apart from a run in first minute Lallana was poor. After viewing the last two friendlies it is clearly evident that we need 6 - 7 new players brought in if we are going to avoid a struggling at the wrong end on the League One table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 Again, writing off players in fitness exercise friendlies is ridiculous. But we know from reserve games and lack of football anywhere that Pulis isn't a footballer. I agree that you can't reach conclusions from these friendlies but I would have thought a number of players would be playing for places/the attention of the manager (perhaps the new manager). I also recognise in reading these reports how we tend to give new players the benefit of the doubt. Murty for example appears just "quite solid", "tired" and unfit from these reports but the conclusion is that he's going to be a good addition should we sign him. I might have expected someone playing for a contract to be fitter than those that already have one. As ever the truth is somewhere in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 The Andrew Davies Sale must have gone like this: Stoke: We'll give you £1m for him... Saints: we want £1.1m... Stoke: (A.Pulis snr) ok but you have to give my boy 3 year contract 'cause he's special needs and i can't pull the wool over evryones eyes here any more... Saints: Done... Stoke: ...you have been! I have decided to try to put all of the baggage from previous regimes behind me and to try not to dwell on the past. That said getting to the bottom of the Pulis signing fascinates me. On what basis did we sign him? Perhaps it's how you describe above but given his "record", who in their right mind identified him as a good addition to our struggling squad? This is a rhetorical question as I don't want to start any anti-X comments but one day I would love to understand how it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 I have decided to try to put all of the baggage from previous regimes behind me and to try not to dwell on the past. That said getting to the bottom of the Pulis signing fascinates me. On what basis did we sign him? Perhaps it's how you describe above but given his "record", who in their right mind identified him as a good addition to our struggling squad? This is a rhetorical question as I don't want to start any anti-X comments but one day I would love to understand how it happened. According to an old OS report, I think Jan Poortvliet was impressed with him in the Stoke friendly last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 If we start the season against Millwall with players like Pulis and Lancashire in our team, it will be another long season. Need to get in some strength right down the spine of the team ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 According to an old OS report, I think Jan Poortvliet was impressed with him in the Stoke friendly last year... Interesting. I thought he might be too old for JP. I heard that he was scouting based on ultrasound images in maternity wards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 It's true in theory, but it must be hard when you don't know who you're trying to impress. I have no doubt they'll step up the effort when a new boss does come in whoever it is. True. We all know that shouldn't be the case with "professionals" but human nature being what it is I expect you may be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintjersey Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 If we start the season against Millwall with players like Pulis and Lancashire in our team, it will be another long season. Need to get in some strength right down the spine of the team ASAP. If we start with them in our team we won't make it into positive points this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 I have decided to try to put all of the baggage from previous regimes behind me and to try not to dwell on the past. That said getting to the bottom of the Pulis signing fascinates me. On what basis did we sign him? Perhaps it's how you describe above but given his "record", who in their right mind identified him as a good addition to our struggling squad? This is a rhetorical question as I don't want to start any anti-X comments but one day I would love to understand how it happened. I can only pray it was something to do with the Davies deal, as if not, then you really have to wonder what our transfer policy was last summer and who was involved!!!! The only thing that makes me think it wasn't was that Pulis came here a fair bit later than Davies and we did have a three week or so window to find a reason to pull out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 NEWSFLASH................. Anthony Pulis's agent arrives at St Marys , claims Saints are on to a 'nice little earner' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 A mate of mine used to play in the same youth team as Pulis, said he was the worst player there by a mile and he quite literally spent 10 minutes in the pub p*ssing himself laughing when he'd found out we'd signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 Pulis was truly awful, miles off the pace, cant pass, cant tackle, rubbish positioning....you get my drift. You mean in simple terms he is NOT a footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitySaint Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 A mate of mine used to play in the same youth team as Pulis, said he was the worst player there by a mile and he quite literally spent 10 minutes in the pub p*ssing himself laughing when he'd found out we'd signed him. Agreed, he was gash as a youth and only made it as a professional due to extreme nepotism, I probably think he feels a little embarrassed by the situation as well to be honest. I am sure he knows he is not good enough to play professional football. Would struggle to make the Eastleigh or Totton team, can we not cancel his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 Agreed, he was gash as a youth and only made it as a professional due to extreme nepotism, I probably think he feels a little embarrassed by the situation as well to be honest. I am sure he knows he is not good enough to play professional football. Would struggle to make the Eastleigh or Totton team, can we not cancel his contract? If we get a half decent manager we will not see Mr Pulis Jnr very much at all one would hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 Please read these stats , less than 20 games played in 6 years http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=37550 Shocking reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 does he share an agent with Ali Dia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 If we get a half decent manager we will not see Mr Pulis Jnr very much at all one would hope Not much change there then, we didn't see much of him when we had a crap manager either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 Not much change there then, we didn't see much of him when we had a crap manager either I saw enough (if not too much) of him last night TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 It's true in theory, but it must be hard when you don't know who you're trying to impress. I have no doubt they'll step up the effort when a new boss does come in whoever it is. So only make an effort when you want to? These players are being paid to do a job, friendly or not. Shouldn't be hard at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 15 July, 2009 Share Posted 15 July, 2009 Agreed, he was gash as a youth and only made it as a professional due to extreme nepotism, I probably think he feels a little embarrassed by the situation as well to be honest. I am sure he knows he is not good enough to play professional football. Would struggle to make the Eastleigh or Totton team, can we not cancel his contract? That may be true, but if it is then why does he persist in trying? Maybe because he doesn't know what else to do, or because he's scared of his dad's reaction if he knocks it on the head? Seems odd one way or another. I saw him in a reserve match last autumn (against Swansea I think) and from that viewing I'd have to agree with the thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 After viewing the last two friendlies it is clearly evident that we need 6 - 7 new players brought in if we are going to avoid a struggling at the wrong end on the League One table. This is good compared to last year's 'we will walk it' hysteria. Low expectations based on current squad. Good because a) I've seen a few League One games in the last couple of years and some of the teams are shocking. A fully fit team including Rasiak, Saga, Gillett, James, Davis, Lallana could do some real damage b) I think your demand for several new players coming in will be met anyway and c) Pulis isn't going to get anywhere near the first team this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 I think we have a case for returning Pulis to Stoke under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 as this player is clearly 'not fit for purpose' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 That may be true, but if it is then why does he persist in trying? Maybe because he doesn't know what else to do, or because he's scared of his dad's reaction if he knocks it on the head? Seems odd one way or another. I saw him in a reserve match last autumn (against Swansea I think) and from that viewing I'd have to agree with the thread title. A rhetorical question I take it. I don't know what he is being paid but it is probably earning him a few multiples of the average wage of a football fan. Great while you can get away with it. He's been doing it for 6 years, so he clearly has little pride or conscience. I suspect this will be his last professional football resting place, Dad's final helping hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 Pulis/Forecast (5 yr deal?)/Gasmi plus Ryan Smith (Millwall Res) Molyneaux and Schneiderlin (£1m when we were supposedly broke) I can only guess these were inspired signings by our dear departed Chairman rather than whoever was Head Coach at the time. Can you imagine Mr Pulis turning up for training and the Head Coach thinking.. what on earth am I going to do with this joker.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 Pulis/Forecast (5 yr deal?)/Gasmi plus Ryan Smith (Millwall Res) Molyneaux and Schneiderlin (£1m when we were supposedly broke) I can only guess these were inspired signings by our dear departed Chairman rather than whoever was Head Coach at the time. Can you imagine Mr Pulis turning up for training and the Head Coach thinking.. what on earth am I going to do with this joker.. I don't care how crap Pulis is, that deal was the best we have made in many years when you consider everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcowzer Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 This is good compared to last year's 'we will walk it' hysteria. Low expectations based on current squad. Good because a) I've seen a few League One games in the last couple of years and some of the teams are shocking. A fully fit team including Rasiak, Saga, Gillett, James, Davis, Lallana could do some real damage b) I think your demand for several new players coming in will be met anyway and c) Pulis isn't going to get anywhere near the first team this year Dont think he should be allowed anywhere near the Reserves either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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