Northam Girls Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 In favour of Championship offer :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesegrater999 Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 May I be the first to say "sauce" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 cheesesauce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 on OS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozz Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1736930,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 ******** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 ****. With Saga and Rasiak likely to follow, we are looking very lightweight in attack. I can only hope that Pardew has got some replacements lined up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints67 Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Only bit of 'good' news on that is the bit about hoping to announce further additions in the coming days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1736930,00.html Not really sorry to see him go just another overpaid footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_O_Mac Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 what a tosser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 just gets better and better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Now keep Raziak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Karloff Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Oh dear. We are starting to look very weak up front. Saga and Rasiak don't seem to be interested either, so hopefully we can clear up their future soon and get in at least two new forwards soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesegrater999 Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Oh bugger, I guess it highlights how hard it is to make league one attractive to players of any sort of calibre. Lets hope the last sentence of the article come into fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 what a tosser. Totally agree I was going to say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Not to bothered to be honest, rather have players who want to play for us. Sounds like he doesn't want to play in league one but rather contradicts what he said the other week that he wanted to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 ****. AP better gte buying NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 A shame but seems that Pardew is working on numerous other deals so patience required - frustrating I know. There's no way Pardew would have joined had there not been significant scope to bring new players in. John - and I don't blame him - was waiting I guess to see if Palace were making an offer. However, it is looking likely that this season is one of consolidation and overcoming the -10, unless some really surprising rabbits appear out of the transfer hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 His choice. If he does not want to be at SMS then so what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Would prefer to keep Rasiak, now if we can do that then we'll be sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Fair play to him. Leaves us a bit f**ked, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguin Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 I'm just disappointed he's messed us around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 No point in having players here who don't want to be here. I have to say I wasn't overly impressed with him at the Hearts game anyway. Looks out of shape, and let's not forget he's not exactly getting any younger. On the face of it, because of his goals a couple of seasons ago, it's a disappointment, but I reckon it'll turn out to be a good thing - some fresh faces are what we need right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boy done well Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 When you think of all of those great and exciting strikers we've had over the past 50 years Stern John sure isn't one of them. Average at best and a journeyman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 AP out FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintjersey Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Really want to keep Rasiak now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Engine Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 I'm quite relieved that John is going - I thought it was a mistake to build an attack around someone so old, slow and lazy. Let's hope we can find a finisher who is both strong and pacey - then we can let Raziak go as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Shame really - honestly thought that he would score a lot of goals in L1. I guess if the player doesn't want to be here though there is little we can do to change his mind. Hopefully AP has a 'cunning plan' - otherwise would could start to look as threadbare as our near neighbours down at Nottarf Krap - and that would never do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bowood Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Would've been under a bit of pressure to perform here ! - and remember he couldn't get into an average Bristol City side last season - so another year on the bench (or in the stiffs) for his 10grand a week must look pretty appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Oh, and we have no chance of keeping Rasiak. Take a step back and be realistic people, we're in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Really want to keep Rasiak now. Possibly, but perhaps some fresh faces who haven't had to go through all the sh1t our players have gone through over the last few years might not be a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Billy Sharpe from Sheffield United would be a good replacement, on transfer list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 ****. AP better gte buying NOW. EVERYONE PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!ONEone111!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Billy Sharpe from Sheffield United would be a good replacement, on transfer list. £££ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the scud Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Well that forest website was good aye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Would prefer to keep Rasiak, now if we can do that then we'll be sorted. If he wants to stay though. Not too concerned if strikers of an excellent quality for League 1 (ie Lita was never going to drop back to this level) are signed by Friday but we really cannot leave it any later as McG has also been sold and Saga is almost certain to go as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints67 Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Billy Sharpe from Sheffield United would be a good replacement, on transfer list. LOL I was just thinking that. Maybe it's more than a coincidence Stern saying he's leaving and Sharp being transfer listed on the same day? Or maybe not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 We're f**ked. Saga and Rasiak will be leaving - Ipswich striker Pablo Counago has also rejected a move to Swansea (despite a fee being agreed), putting them back on Swansea's radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 We're f**ked. Saga and Rasiak will be leaving - Ipswich striker Pablo Counago has also rejected a move to Swansea (despite a fee being agreed), putting them back on Swansea's radar. We're ****ed if we only have Paterson and White come the start of the season. We're not ****ed yet. Patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Of course if we have a wage earner of say 5-10k off the books by him moving we can offer that to AN other. It may prove to be a blessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 I'm just disappointed he's messed us around. How has he messed us around? he was offered a contract, he has considered his options and declined. Thats not messing anyone around. Messing some around is havig someone under contract and making it impossible for someone to honour that contract and shipping him out on loan to a rival. I suspect that what this might mean is that Rasiak is planning to stay and SJ realised that he was not guaranteed 1st choice as striker, because clearly SJ and GR cannot play in the same team (unless we are playing a team of slugs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Billy Sharpe from Sheffield United would be a good replacement, on transfer list. £££ I was thinking this exact same thing after reading the BBC article on him. Wanted by Barnsley, Donny who yes at present are bigger teams but with our backing and set up, will not be for much longer. He is a proven striker at this level with Scunny and although he is not likely to be cheap, we can surely afford to spunk out on him now we have a bit of dough?! Especially if Johns wages are off the books and Saga's and Rasiaks are likely to follow. The best times of Sharpes career have been in L1, so maybe that is enough to tempt him back. Im disappointed to see John go and it looks as if he realised that he would need to use us for his preseason fitness and also to be placed in the shop window so told us he wants to stay. AP then plays him, giving him match fitness and affectively marketing him while he 'ponders' a contract he knows he will never sign. It's one thing playing him and another playing Rasiak who I believe has time left on his contract, so it is in the best interests of both parties for us to play Rasiak and market him if we are looking at cashing in on him. John should not have been allowed to play until a new contract was signed as he is a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 The strange thing about John is his attitude. Coventry fans didn't rate him after his initial good showing. Perhaps it's the "comfort factor" - he may have to work too hard for Pardew - as his deal may be on a pay as you score/assist basis. Any new striker should be given that as his contract...and no difference if you set them up or score directly. You watch the number of goals we score then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 I was thinking this exact same thing after reading the BBC article on him. Wanted by Barnsley, Donny who yes at present are bigger teams but with our backing and set up, will not be for much longer. He is a proven striker at this level with Scunny and although he is not likely to be cheap, we can surely afford to spunk out on him now we have a bit of dough?! Especially if Johns wages are off the books and Saga's and Rasiaks are likely to follow. The best times of Sharpes career have been in L1, so maybe that is enough to tempt him back. Im disappointed to see John go and it looks as if he realised that he would need to use us for his preseason fitness and also to be placed in the shop window so told us he wants to stay. AP then plays him, giving him match fitness and affectively marketing him while he 'ponders' a contract he knows he will never sign. It's one thing playing him and another playing Rasiak who I believe has time left on his contract, so it is in the best interests of both parties for us to play Rasiak and market him if we are looking at cashing in on him. John should not have been allowed to play until a new contract was signed as he is a free.At least we can see him for what he was, a mercenary.No shame in that he wants what is best for his family.He would have been lauded as a legend if he had stayed.Only KD fits the bill in my eyes at present as he turned down bretter to stay with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 How has he messed us around? I imagine he realised that after BC didnt offer him a contract and there was limited interest from anywhere significant, he realised that by going back to SFC cap in hand saying he would stay, he would be offered a contract which he could ponder for a couple of weeks, all the while getting fitter in training and also gaining match fitness in preseason while affectively marketing himself to other teams. Showing them he can still score goals and do a job. It has worked. Allegedly, Palar$e are now in for him and he can simply turn around and decline the contract. Rasiak is in a different poistion as I mentioned earlier as he is still under contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMPR Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 Good jobs you boys are rich or players might turn you down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 (edited) No point in keeping an ageing striker who dos'nt want to stay. Good to see the club stating their ambition in the same article Edited 29 July, 2009 by WealdSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 I'm sure I should be more bothered than I am, somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 The strange thing about John is his attitude. Coventry fans didn't rate him after his initial good showing. Perhaps it's the "comfort factor" - he may have to work too hard for Pardew - as his deal may be on a pay as you score/assist basis. Any new striker should be given that as his contract...and no difference if you set them up or score directly. You watch the number of goals we score then! I like your thinking! Also suspect AP's work ethic does not fit in with Sterns more sanguine approach! Not greatly worried by this provided we keep Big Greg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguin Posted 29 July, 2009 Share Posted 29 July, 2009 How has he messed us around? he was offered a contract, he has considered his options and declined. Thats not messing anyone around. Messing some around is havig someone under contract and making it impossible for someone to honour that contract and shipping him out on loan to a rival. I suspect that what this might mean is that Rasiak is planning to stay and SJ realised that he was not guaranteed 1st choice as striker, because clearly SJ and GR cannot play in the same team (unless we are playing a team of slugs). At the end of last season we assumed that Stern would not be a Southampton player this season, he was out of contract, we were relegated and his wages had been too high even for a Championship club. Then we received the news that he had returned and intended to fight for a new contract, he began playing in friendlies and looked likely to stay. Now he has signalled his intention to look for work elsewhere. If he had just gone at the end of last season that would have been the end of it and so I feel that he has messed us around. I do not think Rasiak wants to stay and will only do so to secure another year of wages if he doesn't get a better offer elsewhere. If he does stay I doubt his heart will really be in it. I would play SJ over GR since he is a better team player and seems to show a decent level of passion whatever club he is playing for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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