Mr X Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I know this will provoke some fierce "don't students get enough allready!!?" replies. Just wondeering why it appears to not be offered anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Indeed, why indeed, have sent an email, and phoned, they didn't wanna know. Surely it is turning away potential business ?? Que the daily mail brigade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Blo*dy students get enough concessions already in this city......why should they get cheap football as well??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 4 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Indeed, why indeed, have sent an email, and phoned, they didn't wanna know. Surely it is turning away potential business ?? Que the daily mail brigade I thought the clubs whole approach was to encourage more people to come. People on limited incomes especially. I dont see how the club can offer senior discount and not student its discrimination I tell ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 arent they generally between 16-21 and im pretty sure theres a young adult ticket.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I thought the clubs whole approach was to encourage more people to come. People on limited incomes especially. I dont see how the club can offer senior discount and not student its discrimination I tell ya! They replaced it with the Young Adult discount, which they probably thought actually benefits more people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 arent they generally between 16-21 and im pretty sure theres a young adult ticket.... Alot of students aren't 16-21. Yet they still have student incomes. The club has ignored this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Alot of students aren't 16-21. Yet they still have student incomes. The club has ignored this. if your a student and your not 16-21 your taking the **** really... If its important to you for us to subsidize your income while your on an extended jolly into ur 20's then i dont really think you should have a season ticket.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I know this will provoke some fierce "don't students get enough allready!!?" replies. Just wondeering why it appears to not be offered anymore? students typically spend all thier money on booze, so if they really wanted to go to games they could divert some funds from booze to footy if they wanted. Based on the fact that they are likely to earn more than the national average in the future I would charge them more. Either that or effing shoot them and reduce my tax bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 4 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Alot of students aren't 16-21. Yet they still have student incomes. The club has ignored this. i'm a mature (or imature depending on ya viewpoint) student I think in general £25 for a division 1 ticket is too steep, but then I guess the club is a business at the end of the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 (edited) if your a student and your not 16-21 your taking the **** really... If its important to you for us to subsidize your income while your on an extended jolly into ur 20's then i dont really think you should have a season ticket.... So trainee doctors and teachers are on an extended "jolly"? This country would be a mess if e didn't invest in our students. Once they graduate they are the highest tax payers for the next 40 years of their lives so any tax dodger claims are stupid. A large number of graduate and post graduate courses take people out of the 16-21 range. Edited 4 August, 2009 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 tax dodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 if your a student and your not 16-21 your taking the **** really... If its important to you for us to subsidize your income while your on an extended jolly into ur 20's then i dont really think you should have a season ticket.... Lol. Those bastards doctors really do take the **** don't they? P.S, yes I was a mature student. Didn't start until I was 22, paid tax in the four year gap though so I don't know what the problem is. I was still skintos for three years and could only afford a few home games, without the student rate this would have been even more difficult. P.P.S You're not very good at spelling the word you're. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Well you can probably tell my education did not extend to uni lol, though that was a choice may i add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Well you can probably tell my education did not extend to uni lol, though that was a choice may i add Do you retract your statement then? With no one above the age of 21 being a student this country would be a mess with no doctors, teachers etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 So trainee doctors and teachers are on an extended "jolly"? This country would be a mess if e didn't invest in our students. Once they graduate they are the highest tax payers for the next 40 years of their lives so any tax dodger claims are stupid. A large number of graduate and post graduate courses take people out of the 16-21 range. Trainee doctors etc are not on student wages. Having lived next to a hospital for many years I can tell you that they also know how to spend on beer and alternative recipes for relaxation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Trainee doctors etc are not on student wages. Having lived next to a hospital for many years I can tell you that they also know how to spend on beer and alternative recipes for relaxation. Well I was a post grad trainee teacher at the age of 24 and I was on just a 6k training bursary for a year and had to pay 3k tuition fees. It certainly wasn't the life of a 1st year undergrad when I was 18 with beer and house parties every night as you have to work 5 days a week in the school and live on the 3k left over for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Field Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 As a mature student myself I e-mailed David Luker. This was his reply; Thanks for your email At this time, we don’t have any plans to reintroduce a Student price type. We did an awful lot of work with both Universities over the last few years, but it didn’t really pay dividends in terms of sales/students attending However, we are going to try and reignite the relationships with the Universities, and therefore it could well be a possibility for next season and beyond regards David Luker Head of Supporter Services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 4 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 August, 2009 As a mature student myself I e-mailed David Luker. This was his reply; Thanks for your email At this time, we don’t have any plans to reintroduce a Student price type. We did an awful lot of work with both Universities over the last few years, but it didn’t really pay dividends in terms of sales/students attending However, we are going to try and reignite the relationships with the Universities, and therefore it could well be a possibility for next season and beyond regards David Luker Head of Supporter Services not very helpfull really just avoiding the real reasons behind the exclusion. I just don't get why mature students above 21 should have to suffer while under 21's don't. oh well the club have made their decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Interesting news this one. Where the heck did they get their business plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester_Saint Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 if your a student and your not 16-21 your taking the **** really... If its important to you for us to subsidize your income while your on an extended jolly into ur 20's then i dont really think you should have a season ticket.... You are seriously wrong buddy. Being a student myself I can tell you how wrong you are to generalise based on stereotypical views. Having taken a gap year myself in order to work and save enough money to actually afford to go to uni I am now entering my 3rd year at the age of 21 and soon-to-be 22. A number of my friends who attend matches with me are the same. Let me tell you that nearly all the money I save I spend on attending Saints games during term-time (in the holidays I live in Jersey). The rest I spend on food and then alcohol if I can afford it, but make no mistake, Saints are my priority and always will be. As I am 22 soon I will most likely be charged full price even though I am as much of a student as anyone else and perhaps not one of these stereotypical students you seem to be referring to. I could make a stereotypical comment about you based on what you just wrote but I won't - maybe, though, you should think about exceptions to the rule before you write such a generalised thing as that post really wound me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigchrisy Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Students get everything cheap already give it a rest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintjersey Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 You are seriously wrong buddy. Being a student myself I can tell you how wrong you are to generalise based on stereotypical views. Having taken a gap year myself in order to work and save enough money to actually afford to go to uni I am now entering my 3rd year at the age of 21 and soon-to-be 22. A number of my friends who attend matches with me are the same. Let me tell you that nearly all the money I save I spend on attending Saints games during term-time (in the holidays I live in Jersey). The rest I spend on food and then alcohol if I can afford it, but make no mistake, Saints are my priority and always will be. As I am 22 soon I will most likely be charged full price even though I am as much of a student as anyone else and perhaps not one of these stereotypical students you seem to be referring to. I could make a stereotypical comment about you based on what you just wrote but I won't - maybe, though, you should think about exceptions to the rule before you write such a generalised thing as that post really wound me up! +1 Excellent post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I take Luker's point about the local unis not being a particular verile customer-loin but it would be nice to offer a student price purely for in order to benefit those students who have always supported Saints but study away from Soton; if they come during term-time the travel cost and match ticket is extremely significant on a student income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Shall I quit my job, take a very low paid one and them complain to the club that there is no "minimum wage" ticket available to me? Shall I start claiming benefits and complain that there's no "Dole Queue Special" for me? If you don't earn the money and can't afford the football, tough. Given that the average graduate earns far more than non-graduates over their working lives, surely a little sacrifice on their part isn't too much to ask, is it? I didn't moan and whinge when I couldn't afford to go the Dell when I was at Uni... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Shall I quit my job, take a very low paid one and them complain to the club that there is no "minimum wage" ticket available to me? Shall I start claiming benefits and complain that there's no "Dole Queue Special" for me? If you don't earn the money and can't afford the football, tough. Given that the average graduate earns far more than non-graduates over their working lives, surely a little sacrifice on their part isn't too much to ask, is it? I didn't moan and whinge when I couldn't afford to go the Dell when I was at Uni... I agree - hell every game I attend costs me around 500 quid.... Anyway - students needing cash - ain't that what parents are for? or was that just me being conned again :smt036 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hectors house Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 This is easy to fix. Any students studying for a degree pay £10 less for a ticket and anyone with a degree pays £20 more (as they are obvioulsy earning mega bucks) - problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 why should students get discount exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Best decision the new board have made so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Best decision the new board have made so far. I wondered when mong-man would wade in with his anti student bull****. Wouldn't be the same without you, stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 why should students get discount exactly? Who should get discounts on the full adult price in your view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Let's be clear. What you are talking about is not giving a student discount. You are talking about giving a mature student discount. The proportion of mature students at Southampton Uni is circa 20% of which, say, a generous 5% are likely to go to football (in term time, when they can afford it, when they haven't got a hangover). Southampton Uni is 20K-ish, so that's 200 mature students who might miss out on a discount. Difficult to justify really. Especially when it could cost the club more by those who legitimately, but immorally in my view, use a student discount when gaining an ID through a night course, work funded sandwich course, accountancy exams etc. In my experience students have far more money (generally) than they ever used to. Hence the houses with Sky TV, broadband and a Dyson. In my day you were lucky if you had central heating and a Radio Rental's Grundig video. You don't know how lucky you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 Let's be clear. What you are talking about is not giving a student discount. You are talking about giving a mature student discount. The proportion of mature students at Southampton Uni is circa 20% of which, say, a generous 5% are likely to go to football (in term time, when they can afford it, when they haven't got a hangover). Southampton Uni is 20K-ish, so that's 200 mature students who might miss out on a discount. Difficult to justify really. Especially when it could cost the club more by those who legitimately, but immorally in my view, use a student discount when gaining an ID through a night course, work funded sandwich course, accountancy exams etc. In my experience students have far more money (generally) than they ever used to. Hence the houses with Sky TV, broadband and a Dyson. In my day you were lucky if you had central heating and a Radio Rental's Grundig video. You don't know how lucky you are. YOU were lucky. In my day we had t' make do with a toasting fork in front of a one bar electric fire to cook our meals. In winter we had to have 10 to a room cos there were no central 'eating, we even 'ad to sleep in our army surplus greatcoats to keep warm. Pah vidoes? We were lucky to receive Noel Edmonds Breakfast show on a tin of Sardines wi' a bent coat hanger fer an aerial. I s'pose you had one o' them new fangled toilets wi' seat and water.. Water? that were wot we saw when we walked over t' 'Amble bridge on t' way back 'ome t' mums t' get our washing done an' av' bath once a term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 In winter we had to have 10 to a room cos of all the ****ging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 of all the ****ging Shhhhhhh The kids may be reading this In fact, just ex student son asked me for a loan when I was back last week as he couldn't afford to go as he no longer got a student discount and his rent was due...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 August, 2009 Share Posted 4 August, 2009 I wondered when mong-man would wade in with his anti student bull****. Wouldn't be the same without you, stu. LOL, something in the water in Romsey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bensfcno1 Posted 5 August, 2009 Share Posted 5 August, 2009 I emailed Mr Luker as well, he gave me the bull****, that not many took up the option last year! Why should the fact that they have stopped working with the uni's this year stop them from having a student priced ticket bracket. I would imagine most Saints fans at uni, dont go to Southampton based uni's as they go away to uni. I also stated that at uni in chichester, i have many friends who i have dragged along last season to several games, but they already thort the price was high. now they have to pay an extra £4 than the £18 paid last season per game, i will have a hard job to make as many games myself now, let alone persuade more people to join me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester_Saint Posted 5 August, 2009 Share Posted 5 August, 2009 I emailed Mr Luker as well, he gave me the bull****, that not many took up the option last year! Why should the fact that they have stopped working with the uni's this year stop them from having a student priced ticket bracket. I would imagine most Saints fans at uni, dont go to Southampton based uni's as they go away to uni. I also stated that at uni in chichester, i have many friends who i have dragged along last season to several games, but they already thort the price was high. now they have to pay an extra £4 than the £18 paid last season per game, i will have a hard job to make as many games myself now, let alone persuade more people to join me! + 1 Good post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Paul C Posted 5 August, 2009 Share Posted 5 August, 2009 The average student has a 20hr per week part-time job earning on average 9 pound an hour. I'm sure that they could afford a ticket if they really wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 August, 2009 Share Posted 5 August, 2009 I go to uni in sheffield, and all the club's around here have cheap tickets. The most expensive it is for a game is 12 quid. Sheff utd also have loads of games which are a fiver to go to. I think saints are cutting the target market, wouldn't you rather see the stadium full? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 5 August, 2009 Share Posted 5 August, 2009 I emailed Mr Luker as well, he gave me the bull****, that not many took up the option last year! Why should the fact that they have stopped working with the uni's this year stop them from having a student priced ticket bracket. I would imagine most Saints fans at uni, dont go to Southampton based uni's as they go away to uni. I also stated that at uni in chichester, i have many friends who i have dragged along last season to several games, but they already thort the price was high. now they have to pay an extra £4 than the £18 paid last season per game, i will have a hard job to make as many games myself now, let alone persuade more people to join me! I don't normally pick people up on spelling but FFS I thort you were at Uni? The price is still between £10 and £18 (dependent on where you sit). It's just called a young adult ticket, rather than a student ticket. So for the majority (vast majority are 21 or under) of students it doesn't make any difference whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester_Saint Posted 5 August, 2009 Share Posted 5 August, 2009 The average student has a 20hr per week part-time job earning on average 9 pound an hour. I'm sure that they could afford a ticket if they really wanted to. Where did you get those figures from? Personally, even with a part-time job, money spent on tuition fees, house, travel to and from uni (flying from Jersey they are crazy prices), food and Saints games are leaving me more and more in debt each year. I shouldn't be doing it but I won't miss a Saints game when I'm there. Still, at almost 22 looks as though this year is going to be even tougher financially since they took away the student ticket option. If the club weren't happy that not enough students attended games last season then by removing the student option there are clearly going to be even less this year - certainly a lot of my friends the same age as me who i convinced to come last season will think twice now which is a shame. I'm sure that by keeping the student option, similarly to the senior option, the club would only benefit by gaining more spectators due to the reduced price, but there we go. It's not like students have a full-time income like the majority of adults, either, so why shouldn't they have a few quid knocked off? Students will soon be 'adults' and paying the full price due to having full-time jobs, and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 5 August, 2009 Share Posted 5 August, 2009 in my case i'm glad they changed it, since i've now graduated but am still eligable for discounted prices through the young adult price structure. although surley those eligable for the young adult tickets who are not students, should be in employment/living off parents/on the doll, so strange that they should be discounted. although having just graduated i do agree that many students seem to spend frivolously with no regard for budgeting etc quite different from the student sterotype of years past. however it should be remembered that tuition fees are far higher than they used to be, and are likely to rise (according to the press from anything betwenn 7k and 20k per annum). this puts puts students in such huge debt that i geuss most accept that debts of 20k+ are inevitable and just spend on enjoying their prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 5 August, 2009 Share Posted 5 August, 2009 The average student has a 20hr per week part-time job earning on average 9 pound an hour. I'm sure that they could afford a ticket if they really wanted to. £9 per hr? student type part time jobs rarely pay much above the minimum wage i earnt between £5-£6 in various jobs, bar work, waiting, etc. besides 20hrs work a week would likely mean working saturdays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Paul C Posted 5 August, 2009 Share Posted 5 August, 2009 Where did you get those figures from? An article on BBC Radio 2 news the other day. A bank, can't remember which one, had done a survey of student finance in the UK and found these numbers to be the average hours and incomes. Best places to be a student was Brighton and the worst was Leicester I think they said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorytheking Posted 5 August, 2009 Share Posted 5 August, 2009 £9 an hour! What job's that then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 5 August, 2009 Share Posted 5 August, 2009 They've just changed the name of it to "Young Adults"...which as far as i can tell is 16-21 whereas children are 5-15 or so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 5 August, 2009 Share Posted 5 August, 2009 Who should get discounts on the full adult price in your view? Nobody apart from children ( under 16 ) and senior citizens. People who are on benefits should have to pay double. Students should pay triple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 5 August, 2009 Share Posted 5 August, 2009 I can't afford a car, if I'm a student do I get a discount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 August, 2009 Share Posted 5 August, 2009 (edited) I can't afford a car, if I'm a student do I get a discount? All people stating things like this miss the point why football clubs offer student discounts. It similar to what banks do. Every high street bank tries tempting students to take up their student accounts in the hope that these future big money earners will be future customers and spend money at the club for years to come. Saints have made the mistake in thinking that Southampton supporting students only go to local universities when that isn't the case and most have to travel long distances at great cost if they want to see a game. Edited 5 August, 2009 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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