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Renault F1 GUILTY for Singapore 2008.


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Yep, suspended ban, until the end of the 2011 season. Thank fewk for that. Let's not be too quick to thank Flav though, he put us there in the first place.

 

All in all, PHEW!

 

Probably a fair result all in all. Those that weren't involved (Ponty and all the other F1 Renault employess) get to carry on, and a **** storm has been brought down on the culprits. LOL at falvio's FIA unlimited ban, haha, av' it.

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That ban for Flavio's going to have some massive implications. Several drivers now need a new manager, GP2 and GP3 have lost a major benefactor, QPR will lose an owner, so that Superleague formula racing series will lose a team, in QPR.

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Looks like Renault have been given a fairly light rap on the knuckles over the cheating affair which is much worse than spygate and the massive penalty handed out to McLaren IMHO.

 

Just how dodgy is Alonso looking in this yet again. I used to be a fan of his but its just not a coincidence that there seems to be cheating and scandal all around him.

 

God alone knows what will happen to F1 when he moves to Ferrari next season.

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There was no reason for Alonso to be made aware of the plot. In fact, logic dictates that he'd have been kept in the dark as the reasons behind the incident are quite well documented now; Renault undecided about continuing to back the team, ING about to pull out because the profile was dropping without any wins and Alonso contemplating a move to another team due to bad results. To retain his services there would have been little point in telling him anything.

 

That's just my opinion though.

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Although i wouldn't want to see Renault get kicked out of F1 they do seem to of got off lightly in this case.Now i know some will disagree but Mclaren get hit with a massive fine for stealing a few secrets which i'm sure most teams do to some degree,but Renault get caught after cheating in such a way that it could of caused death or injury to an inocent bystander and they get what amounts to a slap on the wrist and told not to be naughty again.

This has to be one of the many reasons why F1 really can't be taken serious anymore it's punishment has no parity from one case to another.

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Although i wouldn't want to see Renault get kicked out of F1 they do seem to of got off lightly in this case.Now i know some will disagree but Mclaren get hit with a massive fine for stealing a few secrets which i'm sure most teams do to some degree,but Renault get caught after cheating in such a way that it could of caused death or injury to an inocent bystander and they get what amounts to a slap on the wrist and told not to be naughty again.

This has to be one of the many reasons why F1 really can't be taken serious anymore it's punishment has no parity from one case to another.

 

Its the same in races. Sometimes in one race a driver will be penalised for something but in another race another driver will commit the same offence and recieve a totally different penalty! Theres no consistency (much like referees decisions in football!)

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Not much chance of that on a street circuit surrounded by concrete walls.

 

I know, but if I'm thinking of the righ crash, Nelson's car came to a stop on te inside of the exit from a corner, off the racing line. If it wasn't for the debris I reckon double waved yellers could have done it.

 

Anyway, didn't Kimi crash at the end of that race without bring out the SC?

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The need for a safety car on that circuit was wholly determined by the positioning of the cranes outside of the barriers. There was no crane at turn 17.

 

Ah ok, that explains it. Still would have been funny though, if Nelson couldn't even crash properly. I can just imagine him 5 minutes later stood the other side of the barrier pouring a barrel of oil onto the track.

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Ponty , how long have the staff known at Renault, surely they must have been suspicious all the way back to last year..

No one was "suspicious" as far as I'm aware. Everyone joked about it at the time and decided that if Piquet had meant to crash at turn 17 on lap 14 he'd have probably managed to do it at turn 14 on lap 17. Remember, this guy crashed 17 times whilst driving for us - it really wasn't that weird.

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No one was "suspicious" as far as I'm aware. Everyone joked about it at the time and decided that if Piquet had meant to crash at turn 17 on lap 14 he'd have probably managed to do it at turn 14 on lap 17. Remember, this guy crashed 17 times whilst driving for us - it really wasn't that weird.

 

How many more were team orders?

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I like the truck series, some decent racing. He has probably not done that style of racing before, so a year in trucks, then up to the Nationwide Series and then we might see him in the Sprint Cup in 3 or 4 years.

 

Montoya is still in with a great chance of winning the NASCAR Sprint Cup this season, in only his second year.

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