chrisobee Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 (edited) It seems unlikely we'll secure a permanent signing at this stage. However, am I the only one who isn't surprised by this ? Disappointed yes but surprised no. Good players who are available are in short supply, we don't have any divine right to sign those that are available. Apparently some people on here are better at Pardew at knowing where we need strengthening. Really ? Then I'm flabergasted you haven't gone into football management as it is so easy. Identify who we need, phone them up and get them to sign. Easy, don't worry about salaries, have as much as you like. Oh, your club want a fee, no problem either we are made of money. The amount of nonsense on this board is staggering and why do so many people only ever see negatives and anyone who dare say something positive is deemed to be "happy clappy" whatever that exactly means. Maybe, just maybe some of us enjoy supporting Saints, are glad we have a club to support and realise that you only truly appreciate the good times when you suffer the bad times. To be honest 27 years of top flight football was some achievement and relegation at some point for a club like us was always a possibility. Of course the constant changing of managers, gross mismanagement and over spending just made things that much worse. I've supported Saints for 45 years, it's in my blood and it hurts when we struggle. However, there are more important things in life than football and it really is not a matter of life and death. So I'll continue to be positive if that's Ok with the trolls who pervade this board. It really is time not only for a reality check but to get a life and take the highs and lows of supporting Saints as they come. Edited 1 September, 2009 by chrisobee Spelling D'oh ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 It seems unlikely we'll secure a permanent signing at this stage. However, am I the only one who isn't surprised by this ? Disappointed yes but surprised no. Good players who are available are in short supply, we don't have any divine right to sign those that are available. Apparently some people on here are better at Pardew at knowing where we need strengthening. Really ? Then I'm flabergasted you haven't gone into football management as it is so easy. Identify who we need, phone them up and get them to sign. Easy, don't worry about salaries, have as much as you like. Oh, your club want a fee, no problem either we are made of money. The amount of nonsense on this board is staggering and why do so many people only ever see negatives and anyone who dare say something positive is deemed to be "happy clappy" whatever that exactly means. Maybe, just maybe some of us enjoy supporting Saints, are glad we have a club to support and realise that you only truly appreciate the good times when you suffer the bad times. To be honest 27 years of top flight football was some achievement and relegation at some point for a club like us was always a possibility. Of course the constant changing of managers, gross mismanagement and over spending just made things that much worse. I've supported Saints for 45 years, it's in my blood and it hurts when we struggle. However, there are more important things in life than football and it really is not a matter of life and death. So I'll continue to be positive if that's Ok with the trolls who pervade this board. It realise is time not only for a reality check but to get a life and take the highs and lows of supporting Saints as they come. You are quite clearly a 'positroll'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Agree with most of what you say especially, the bit about knowing more than Pardew. I think there are too many people on here that think real life is just the same as playing a football manager game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I think there are too many people on here that think real life is just the same as playing a football manager game. Admittedly, its become ballbreakingly hard to sign 'quality' players on FM or Champo. Any troll would understand that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 You will be in trouble with the negative brigade..........they'll be on your back soon;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Can,t argue with anything you,ve said.With regards to the lack of signings today,I would rather bring in nobody than mercenary panic buys,we have had our fair share of these over the years,Nilsen,Jakobsen,Van Damme,McCann Anyone? However I think that ML,s five year plan to get back into the Prem will take at least another two years as I fear we will be working up from L2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsey Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Sorry positive people we need some pace without that we will struggle. Been proven already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Can,t argue with anything you,ve said.With regards to the lack of signings today,I would rather bring in nobody than mercenary panic buys,we have had our fair share of these over the years,Nilsen,Jakobsen,Van Damme,McCann Anyone? However I think that ML,s five year plan to get back into the Prem will take at least another two years as I fear we will be working up from L2. Yep, we go down before we go up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2009 You will be in trouble with the negative brigade..........they'll be on your back soon;) Like I care ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Sorry positive people we need some pace without that we will struggle. Been proven already. Don't disagree with that TBH but we had a certain Nathan Dyer and what a look of stick he took. I love wing men, Tommy Jenkins is one of my all time favourite players and despite the fact even he didn't know what he was doing himself half the time he was still a good player. Unfortunately pace without skill and an end product is of little use, if we want just sheer pace we could always sign Dwain Chambers if Usain Bolt is not available! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 We're loaded so there's no reason why we can't get some loan players in if required. Don't panic we've now got a good team that's gelling more and more with every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreog Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Totally agree with all of that.........there are so many "dreamers" that think the play offs are possible and that Saints have some sort of divine right to stroll this league......I say take one game at a time, which I'm sure is what AP is doing and build some confidence and grit into the side..........it may not happen this month or next month, but I believe it will slowly start to work and patience is needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 (edited) It seems unlikely we'll secure a permanent signing at this stage. However, am I the only one who isn't surprised by this ? Disappointed yes but surprised no. Good players who are available are in short supply, we don't have any divine right to sign those that are available. Apparently some people on here are better at Pardew at knowing where we need strengthening. Really ? Then I'm flabergasted you haven't gone into football management as it is so easy. Identify who we need, phone them up and get them to sign. Easy, don't worry about salaries, have as much as you like. Oh, your club want a fee, no problem either we are made of money. The amount of nonsense on this board is staggering and why do so many people only ever see negatives and anyone who dare say something positive is deemed to be "happy clappy" whatever that exactly means. Maybe, just maybe some of us enjoy supporting Saints, are glad we have a club to support and realise that you only truly appreciate the good times when you suffer the bad times. To be honest 27 years of top flight football was some achievement and relegation at some point for a club like us was always a possibility. Of course the constant changing of managers, gross mismanagement and over spending just made things that much worse. I've supported Saints for 45 years, it's in my blood and it hurts when we struggle. However, there are more important things in life than football and it really is not a matter of life and death. So I'll continue to be positive if that's Ok with the trolls who pervade this board. It realise is time not only for a reality check but to get a life and take the highs and lows of supporting Saints as they come. Well said Chris! And let's not forget, we can still sign players who are out of contract and we can still bring in players on loan. I feel pretty sure we will sign Jaidi in time for him to play on Saturday (which is all that matters IMO). So, as it stands news wise at this moment in time, our squad looks something like this: GKs: Davis, Bart, Poke can be recalled, Forecast is on a month's loan RBs: Murty (don't know how long he will be out), Thomas, James LBs: Harding, Mills, Molyneux CBs: Thomas, Perry, Jaidi (hopefully), Trotman, Lancashire RMs: James, Lallana, Mellis, Thomson, McLaggon (and I really think we will bring one in on loan) LMs: Holmes, Mills, Lallana, Gobern CMs: Hammond, Wotton, Spiderman, James, Gillett, Mellis, Gobern Fwds: Lambert, Saga, Paterson, White, McLaggon (I also think we will loan a new fwd in) All in all that squad looks good enough (for me) to easily get us up to mid-table come the end of December. The performances are getting better and better with each game. I have faith and am not about to join the wrist-slitters in their mass suicide attempt. So come on, cheer up you lot. Edited 1 September, 2009 by Minsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsey Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Sorry mate but your reading what is needly wrongly. Reality check is we are in League 1 that is understood. The basics of football remain the same pace is always required and we have none. On the positive side Spiderman will come into his own with better class of player around him(ie Hammod) that I have no doubt and the back is looking more solid. But we are static and readable going forward. Don't disagree with that TBH but we had a certain Nathan Dyer and what a look of stick he took. I love wing men, Tommy Jenkins is one of my all time favourite players and despite the fact even he didn't know what he was doing himself half the time he was still a good player. Unfortunately pace without skill and an end product is of little use, if we want just sheer pace we could always sign Dwain Chambers if Usain Bolt is not available! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I still think we're good enough to stay up confortably, even without further ''perm' signings. The loan window will be used by us in some kind of way i guess, hopefully to get some pace in...as that's all that's really lacking in this team. The thought of Jaidi and Trotman at the back though should sort us out in defense..nicely dominant. Mid-table comfortably - i still stand by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightman35 Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 It seems unlikely we'll secure a permanent signing at this stage. However, am I the only one who isn't surprised by this ? Disappointed yes but surprised no. Good players who are available are in short supply, we don't have any divine right to sign those that are available. Apparently some people on here are better at Pardew at knowing where we need strengthening. Really ? Then I'm flabergasted you haven't gone into football management as it is so easy. Identify who we need, phone them up and get them to sign. Easy, don't worry about salaries, have as much as you like. Oh, your club want a fee, no problem either we are made of money. The amount of nonsense on this board is staggering and why do so many people only ever see negatives and anyone who dare say something positive is deemed to be "happy clappy" whatever that exactly means. Maybe, just maybe some of us enjoy supporting Saints, are glad we have a club to support and realise that you only truly appreciate the good times when you suffer the bad times. To be honest 27 years of top flight football was some achievement and relegation at some point for a club like us was always a possibility. Of course the constant changing of managers, gross mismanagement and over spending just made things that much worse. I've supported Saints for 45 years, it's in my blood and it hurts when we struggle. However, there are more important things in life than football and it really is not a matter of life and death. So I'll continue to be positive if that's Ok with the trolls who pervade this board. It realise is time not only for a reality check but to get a life and take the highs and lows of supporting Saints as they come. Thanks Chrisobee for a well thought out post. I still hope AP gets the players he wants in on loan- to add pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I still think we're good enough to stay up This is the dream!! Following the excitement of the takeover and appointment of ex Prem manager AP I think everyone said "please just let us stay up" Leeds managed to make the playoffs 2 years back despite starting on -15 points....they did this by reacting quickly in the transfer market and making sure they got off to the best possible start.....we have managed to do exactly the opposite - well done Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 This is the dream!! Following the excitement of the takeover and appointment of ex Prem manager AP I think everyone said "please just let us stay up" Leeds managed to make the playoffs 2 years back despite starting on -15 points....they did this by reacting quickly in the transfer market and making sure they got off to the best possible start.....we have managed to do exactly the opposite - well done Saints! I know what you mean - i'm as frustrated as anyone, as i truly believe we have a good enough set of players to be doing much better than we are. but for alot of reasons that's not been possible - so playoffs is typically very unlikely now - mid-table comfortably would be acceptable for me now though, taking everything into account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I know what you mean - i'm as frustrated as anyone, as i truly believe we have a good enough set of players to be doing much better than we are. but for alot of reasons that's not been possible - so playoffs is typically very unlikely now - mid-table comfortably would be acceptable for me now though, taking everything into account I think mid table is sadly now best we can hope for - shame, roll on next season I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I think mid table is sadly now best we can hope for - shame, roll on next season I guess. with us..it is always about next season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 with us..it is always about next season... well next season we HAVE to go all out and win it (although i would accept 2nd) with our resources, in L1, we should be able to be promoted automatically when starting on a level playing field IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 with us..it is always about next season... Next season we will walk this league :smt085 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I think we will stay up this season. I can see the team starting to gel, and I think results will start to turn round over the next few weeks. We will not do much better than just about staying up but at least we can build from L1 next season and not L2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Sorry mate but your reading what is needly wrongly. Reality check is we are in League 1 that is understood. The basics of football remain the same pace is always required and we have none. On the positive side Spiderman will come into his own with better class of player around him(ie Hammod) that I have no doubt and the back is looking more solid. But we are static and readable going forward. I'm not sure what your point is TBH as I agreed we need pace but not without a certain degree of skill to go with it and just for the record I was quite a decent winger in my youth and know exactly what is needed though it's not rocket science anyway !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Nice sentiment in OP - I don't like what you say so you're negative and a troll. Jog on. The problem many don't seem to register is that it is not about spending big money on 2 or 3 big names. It's ALL about getting the balance correct in the squad and installing some pace WITH skill into the side. I guarantee that Lambert will have his worst season for 3-4 years here if we don't get the ball moving to him quickly. This does not take Prem or even CCC quality players in L1 - just players that are suited to delivering those attributes. However, I think many posting on here will have recognised the need to alter the team dynamic, because even against the poorest L1 teams we are looking lethargic at times. If we ever have to rely on the services of Wotton or Pulis I think its safe to say we will go down again. If AP cannot get the players then I would like to know why - perhaps its because Saints are a very unattractive prospect right now? If thats true then its up to ML and Nicola to ensure players are enticed by salary perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsey Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Sorry mate not looking for arguments not that good at discussing via here, think we agree on same things about time things starting going right for us. COYR I'm not sure what your point is TBH as I agreed we need pace but not without a certain degree of skill to go with it and just for the record I was quite a decent winger in my youth and know exactly what is needed though it's not rocket science anyway !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Sorry mate not looking for arguments not that good at discussing via here, think we agree on same things about time things starting going right for us. COYR No problem, I get your point now and we're on the same wavelength. Makes a change for anyone to apologise on here so thanks for that though it wasn't needed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Sorry mate but your reading what is needly wrongly. Reality check is we are in League 1 that is understood. The basics of football remain the same pace is always required and we have none. On the positive side Spiderman will come into his own with better class of player around him(ie Hammod) that I have no doubt and the back is looking more solid. But we are static and readable going forward. Think spiderman is too much of a luxury player TBH. He obviously has an aweful lot of talent and this has been spotted by the french U21's manager and some higher placed teams. I think he would do well in a team that is built around him, to interact with the way he plays the ball, a holding player to support him and a more attacking midfielder to play, a bit like the role that Xabi Alonso used to play for liverpool. We do have the squad to play this way IMO but i just think it's too much of a risk at league 1 level. Hammond is definately a good buy, i have not seen him play however from what i have heard he is a bit more of a defensive player, which means we need a player that has a bit more industry, and more attacking flair. As much as i agree with what you say Chrisobee, and myself am a positive person, i have been left disapointed with the lack of movement in the permanent transfer market, i know we are not all managers etc, but if everyone can see we lack 3 main points effectively. 1. Pace, 2. Solid partnership at the back, 3. Creativity, incisive passing and crossing. I hope we can move forward in the loan market however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Are we sometimes the victims of our own unbridled optimism? It will take time to make this team play, and I think they will eventually do that rather well. What I saw against Birmingham was very convincing. Nevertheless there is still a lot to learn, but we have the right manager to teach it. Let's not be so outrageously optimistic whether it is about the depth of MLs pockets, or to "walk this league". ML is not a drunken sailor, and this league will never be walked. It's not that much different to CCC. With hard work we will do well, however, probably next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Next season we will no doubt be up against Notts County who will have millions to spend and no doubt will, plus the 3 relegated ccc sides.We need Charlton,Leeds & Norwich all to go up this season so we don't have to compete with any of them and hope no other sides get big takeovers from this league.Otherwise next season could be far more expensive than ML hoped and he may need to fork out £10 million to get us out of this league. That is of course if we are not in Div 2 which I now see as far more likely without the winger and pacy forward we desperately needed to have a reasonable side. Very bad judgement by Pardew today to talk about 3 possible signings and bring in none.I expect a statement from him tomorrow to explain what has gone wrong today. Currently very very very disappointed though not surprised as that seems to be the overriding emotion being a Saints fan(disappointment).Maybe one day we will have something to cheer about but it now doesn't look like this season!!!Yes we've got a club to support but it is still currently very tortuous to support.Would make life easier if I didn't care so much and could support another team .Unfortunately Saints is in my blood and hopefully one day I'll be pleased about that again unlike the last 5 years!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I still think we're good enough to stay up confortably, even without further ''perm' signings. The loan window will be used by us in some kind of way i guess, hopefully to get some pace in...as that's all that's really lacking in this team. The thought of Jaidi and Trotman at the back though should sort us out in defense..nicely dominant. Mid-table comfortably - i still stand by that. Totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 Nice sentiment in OP - I don't like what you say so you're negative and a troll. Jog on. The problem many don't seem to register is that it is not about spending big money on 2 or 3 big names. It's ALL about getting the balance correct in the squad and installing some pace WITH skill into the side. I guarantee that Lambert will have his worst season for 3-4 years here if we don't get the ball moving to him quickly. This does not take Prem or even CCC quality players in L1 - just players that are suited to delivering those attributes. However, I think many posting on here will have recognised the need to alter the team dynamic, because even against the poorest L1 teams we are looking lethargic at times. If we ever have to rely on the services of Wotton or Pulis I think its safe to say we will go down again. If AP cannot get the players then I would like to know why - perhaps its because Saints are a very unattractive prospect right now? If thats true then its up to ML and Nicola to ensure players are enticed by salary perhaps? I think that it is clear from his statements that AP was looking to bring in a pacey winger but either a) his club wanted silly money for him because we now have "money" or b) the player did not want to come to a club on -7 or a combination of a) and b). So - I am agreeing with you. For the record, I do not believe that we should pay far more than AP thinks a player is really worth. I also believe that the players we have are good enough to keep us in this league once they believe that for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 I think that it is clear from his statements that AP was looking to bring in a pacey winger but either a) his club wanted silly money for him because we now have "money" or b) the player did not want to come to a club on -7 or a combination of a) and b). So - I am agreeing with you. For the record, I do not believe that we should pay far more than AP thinks a player is really worth. I also believe that the players we have are good enough to keep us in this league once they believe that for themselves. I agree with you. The problem though is what value do you put on a player that transforms your team into something resembling success? A player that is able to enhance the fortunes of others in the team? And that's just half the picture - what about free agents where there is no fee, just the money needed to get them to play for the team? I have severe reservations about the make-up of the squad...it is peppered still with inappropriate players IMO...either players that are not good enough or have no confidence or are just plain not what we need right now. If we set-aside individual players for a moment and concentrate on the TEAM, I would suggest there is still significant work to be done. Jaidi will answer the questions at the back. Midfield is a major problem still without a strong playmaker and without some wide outlet either left or right. Saga seems to be here still, so I guess another striker would be a luxury and who knows, he just might come good. So in short, improving midfield is key to improving our chances of avoiding another disaster of a season IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 1 September, 2009 Share Posted 1 September, 2009 with us..it is always about next season... This season that statement is valid more than ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 2 September, 2009 Share Posted 2 September, 2009 Nice sentiment in OP - I don't like what you say so you're negative and a troll. Jog on. The problem many don't seem to register is that it is not about spending big money on 2 or 3 big names. It's ALL about getting the balance correct in the squad and installing some pace WITH skill into the side. I guarantee that Lambert will have his worst season for 3-4 years here if we don't get the ball moving to him quickly. This does not take Prem or even CCC quality players in L1 - just players that are suited to delivering those attributes. However, I think many posting on here will have recognised the need to alter the team dynamic, because even against the poorest L1 teams we are looking lethargic at times. If we ever have to rely on the services of Wotton or Pulis I think its safe to say we will go down again. If AP cannot get the players then I would like to know why Perhaps you should make an appointment.....it'll give you a chance to tell him where he is going wrong!!!!!!!!!! - perhaps its because Saints are a very unattractive prospect right now? If thats true then its up to ML and Nicola to ensure players are enticed by salary perhaps? You really do love this Championship manager sh1t ....don't you. So all of the above has to be right, because the great Saint fan Cam has said so...you are so in the wrong job, I suggest you sent your CV to all clubs, as a matter of some priority!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 2 September, 2009 Share Posted 2 September, 2009 The owners should have struck whilst the iron was hot IMO,why put off for next season what could have been achieved this season. There was a lot of time wasted in appointing pardew (probably not their first choice) and then a lot more time bringing in the needed players,ok we might have been shackled to certain degree because nobody wants to play in a sh1t league for a team on -10 but as notts county have proved,if you pay decent players decent money they will play anywhere. We failed too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 2 September, 2009 Share Posted 2 September, 2009 Let the season ride out and make a statement then! talk about failure now is utterly ridiculous! I still see a really positive season ahead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 September, 2009 Share Posted 2 September, 2009 You really do love this Championship manager sh1t ....don't you. So all of the above has to be right, because the great Saint fan Cam has said so...you are so in the wrong job, I suggest you sent your CV to all clubs, as a matter of some priority!!! Err, if you're referring to the game, I don't play it...got better things to do. What is it with you - why do you find it so hard to comment on the subject matter without resorting to personal insults? This is a fans forum and my understanding is that its a place to represent your views on Saints. Of course I want to know why certain decisions are made at the club - I pay good money to be a part of it and its of great interest, so why not? Just calm down dear, its only a fans forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hectors house Posted 2 September, 2009 Share Posted 2 September, 2009 The original post makes good sense but why do so many already seem to be settling for mid table survival. The season is still young, our team are getting better every week and I for one am wearing "rose tinted glasses" and still looking at the play offs. Unless you support one of the "big four" then surely you have to dream a little? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 2 September, 2009 Share Posted 2 September, 2009 The owners should have struck whilst the iron was hot IMO,why put off for next season what could have been achieved this season. There was a lot of time wasted in appointing pardew (probably not their first choice) and then a lot more time bringing in the needed players,ok we might have been shackled to certain degree because nobody wants to play in a sh1t league for a team on -10 but as notts county have proved,if you pay decent players decent money they will play anywhere. We failed too soon. The purchase of the club was completed on the 8th July; Wotte was removed on the 9th; Pardew was appointed late on the 16th (the OS announced the appointment first thing on the 17th). That's all of a week between removing the incumbent and appointing his successor. How quickly would you expect such an important appointment to be made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 2 September, 2009 Share Posted 2 September, 2009 I love a good reality check as much as the next Saints fan but I think we are getting them every Saturday and often midweek as well at the moment so I am all checked up for reality ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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