shurlock Posted 24 September, 2009 Share Posted 24 September, 2009 (edited) According to Saints Player, both Wayne Thomas and Papa Waigo are out. How does that affect the line-up and options? Presumably Jaidi, Trotman and Harding all start with James going to RB. Does that mean Lallana, Schneiderlin, Hammond, Mills in the middle with Saga and Lambert upfront. Will that midfield combo work? What if Saga doesn't look like he's up for it or Schneiderlin struggles with the tempo of the match? Would anyone take a punt with Holmes or Mellis? Edited 24 September, 2009 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Gabriel's Halo Posted 24 September, 2009 Share Posted 24 September, 2009 Confused...? You will be...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 24 September, 2009 Share Posted 24 September, 2009 Thomas Out, Papa Late Fitness Test. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/8265464.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 24 September, 2009 Share Posted 24 September, 2009 Even with Pulis and Molyneux in the squad I am confident we will win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 24 September, 2009 Share Posted 24 September, 2009 (edited) Thomas Out, Papa Late Fitness Test. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/8265464.stm Late fitness test for Waigo suggests his injury isn't quite as bad as the doom merchants like Glasgow Saint & Alpine thought!! Heaven help us!! Does that mean Pardew's not a complete numpty for signing injured players or is our season still flying off into the sunset as a result of that ankle knock?! :smt018 Edited 24 September, 2009 by Gordon Mockles Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 24 September, 2009 Share Posted 24 September, 2009 According to Saints Player, both Wayne Thomas and Papa Waigo are out. How does that affect the line-up and options? Presumably there are no doubts about Jaidi, Trotman and Harding; but with James going to RB - does that mean Lallana, Schneiderlin, Hammond, Mills in the middle with Saga and Lambert upfront. Will that midfield combo work? What if Saga doesn't look like he's up for it or Schneiderlin struggles with the tempo of the match? Would anyone take a punt with Holmes? Bad news for our defence as with that back four last Saturday we at least don't look like we'll be letting in many so any weakening there is a major worry assuming Murty isn't fit. Can Perry or Trotman play at RB? Playing James there will give Carlisle the ability to get through a perceived weak link. I think we should give Lallana a free role up front behind Lambert. With Schneiderlin and Hammond in the centre assuming Gillett is still out of favour with Pardew but we have a major issues with width. Mills obviously but if you play Lallana in one of these roles he is ineffective and exposes the fullback by cutting in to often and worse still it means Saga or Patterson up front. Disinterested and unfit experience or gamble on a largely unknown and unproven inexperience? Gillett needs to play IMO and play Schneiderlin on the right but obviously don't know what the issue is with Gillett. I'm sure Pardew has the answers but a long trip to Carlisle will be a point well earned and nice as it would be I have no expectations of winning because of the injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 24 September, 2009 Share Posted 24 September, 2009 Late fitness test for Waigo suggests his injury isn't quite as bad as the doom merchants like Glasgow Saint & Alpine thought!! Heaven help us!! Does that mean Pardew's not a complete numpty for signing injured players or is our season still flying off into the sunset as a result of that ankle knock?! :smt018 It may suggest he is desperate not to play Saga or Patterson. Even if Papa is injured Pardew does have other options bar the obvious ones and Lallana needs to be given the opportunity to prove himself in free roaming / attacking role because I think he is getting close to the end of the rope and needs to start delivering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 24 September, 2009 Share Posted 24 September, 2009 Perry could do a job at right back, although I think Lloyd James would offer more in an attacking sense. Personally, I'd go with: GK: Kevin RB: James LB: Harding CB: Jaidi CB: Trotman RM: Melis LM: Mills CM: Schneiderlin CM: Hammond AMC: Lallana ST: Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibMcdo Posted 24 September, 2009 Share Posted 24 September, 2009 Perry could do a job at right back, although I think Lloyd James would offer more in an attacking sense. Personally, I'd go with: GK: Kevin RB: James LB: Harding CB: Jaidi CB: Trotman RM: Melis LM: Mills CM: Schneiderlin CM: Hammond AMC: Lallana ST: Lambert I'd go with that, although I'd have Kelvin Davis in goal. Saga is pants, I'd rather have Paterson playing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 24 September, 2009 Share Posted 24 September, 2009 The team really needs some width. I'd go with this formation: Davis James Trottman Jaidi Schneiderlin Saga Hammond Lallana Mellis Holmes Lambert[/codE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 24 September, 2009 Share Posted 24 September, 2009 I'd go with that, although I'd have Kelvin Davis in goal. Saga is pants, I'd rather have Paterson playing! Bah, it's late, I knew what I meant :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaSaint Posted 24 September, 2009 Share Posted 24 September, 2009 How about... -------------------Davis------------------ ---Mills---Trotman---Jaïdi---Harding--- Lallana-Hammond-Schniederlin-Holmes ---------------Saga-Lambert------------ Papa in for Lallana if fit. Harding and Mills could switch. Lallana for Saga if Papa is fit, or he could go to left wing and move Holmes to the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Anyone know if the Carlisle left winger is likely to be much of a threat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 How about... -------------------Davis------------------ ---Mills---Trotman---Jaïdi---Harding--- Lallana-Hammond-Schniederlin-Holmes ---------------Saga-Lambert------------ Papa in for Lallana if fit. Harding and Mills could switch. Lallana for Saga if Papa is fit, or he could go to left wing and move Holmes to the bench. I think he will play Gillet instead of Schniederlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 I think he will play Gillet instead of Schniederlin Pleased that you are not the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Pleased that you are not the manager OI, no slagging off of Gillett - we own his ASS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 OI, no slagging off of Gillett - we own his ASS!! We could have owned a more substantial amount of footballer than Gillett surely:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Even with Pulis and Molyneux in the squad I am confident we will win These two truly great stars may need a few more reserve games over the next three or four years before breaking into our International class squad.... Give them more time.....Lowey tried rushing talents like these two future stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oggiee Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Davis James-Trotman-Jaidi-Harding Waigo-Schnierderlin-Hammond-Holmes Lambert-Saga RB is going to be a real problem with Murty and Thomas out, hopefully not for long as many of us know that James isn't great at RB, think he does an O.K job in CM but at RB i've seen him out of position too many times and too slow to compensate for this. Can Trotman play RB for a game? If Waigo doesn't make it for Sat, then I could see a switch in formation, the same back 5 followed by: Schnierderlin-Hammond-Wotton/Gillet Lallana-Holmes Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Thomas Out, Papa Late Fitness Test. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/8265464.stm Davis James Jaidi Trotman Harding Waigo (if not, Lallana with gritted teeth) Hammond Wotton Holmes/Mills Saga Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 How about... -------------------Davis------------------ ---Mills---Trotman---Jaïdi---Harding--- Lallana-Hammond-Schniederlin-Holmes ---------------Saga-Lambert------------ Papa in for Lallana if fit. Harding and Mills could switch. Lallana for Saga if Papa is fit, or he could go to left wing and move Holmes to the bench. Why on earth would you play Joseph Mills right back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 anyone know if tickets can be bought on day at ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 lets be honest...it will be 442...not 433, not 451 lallana will be wide as im nore sure he has played up front yet...and he is not exactly quick or strong so not too sure what that achieves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davej27 Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Will be travelling up with 2 spare tickets if you need any! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Holmes is still not match fit and will need at least a couple more full reserve games, before even being considered for a starting place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4649192.Waigo_and_Thomas_miss_out/?ref=rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 September, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4649192.Waigo_and_Thomas_miss_out/?ref=rss "...With Graeme Murty still on crutches, Thomas’ absence at right back means Lloyd James is likely to be drafted into the position he filled so ably last season...." :confused: The most that can be said about James at RB last season was that at least he didn't get any worse as the season went on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 "...With Graeme Murty still on crutches, Thomas’ absence at right back means Lloyd James is likely to be drafted into the position he filled so ably last season...." :confused: The most that can be said about James at RB last season was that at least he didn't get any worse as the season went on. I thought he was one of last seasons most improved players tbh. at the start of the season he was what he was, a young kid thrust into a professional league well before his time. But he got to grips with it...and i have no worries about him going to RB tbh, only thing we'll miss is the extra height Thomo gives us defending set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 September, 2009 (edited) I thought he was one of last seasons most improved players tbh. at the start of the season he was what he was, a young kid thrust into a professional league well before his time. But he got to grips with it...and i have no worries about him going to RB tbh, only thing we'll miss is the extra height Thomo gives us defending set pieces. Slightly uncharitable of me- he did improve after christmas. and seems more willing to get forward and get crosses in from a deeper position (more so than from RM where he seems uncomfortable with being the most forward player - see Yeovil last week). Hope Im proved wrong but doesn't strike me as a player who can adapt at short notice to new positional demands. Edited 25 September, 2009 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Will be travelling up with 2 spare tickets if you need any! You talking to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Why have we not added to our strikers during the 'loan' period ??? seems we are very short of options at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Kelvin James Trotman Jaidi Harding Lallana Morgan Hammond Mills Saga Lambert Thats my thinking as well, will be a bit thin on the bench though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Kelvin James Trotman Jaidi Harding Mellis Schneiderlin Hammond Mills Lallana Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Kelvin Wotton Jaidi Trotman Harding Waigo Lallana Hammond Mellis Saga Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Why have we not added to our strikers during the 'loan' period ??? seems we are very short of options at the moment We need to get a few out first - at the forum AP said this to Nicola that we need to trim down our squad of professional reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Kelvin Wotton Jaidi Trotman Harding Waigo Lallana Hammond Mellis Saga Lambert Waigo is injured and Wotton at right back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 That team in the echo still makes me think we will be on minus points come the end of tomorrow.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davej27 Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 You talking to me? yes if you are interested! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 That team in the echo still makes me think we will be on minus points come the end of tomorrow.. And I am convinced that we will be on +1 come 5 o clock tomorrow, whatever the final team may be. The players injured are not part of the nucleus of the side (Murty apart) James will be OK at right back and Waigo has,as yet, proved the square root of sod all. I'm putting us down for a 3-1 win with 2 from Saga and 1 from ...someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 That team in the echo still makes me think we will be on minus points come the end of tomorrow.. why aren't Lambert, Hammond, Jaidi, Trottman, Kelvin or Harding in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Why have we not added to our strikers during the 'loan' period ??? seems we are very short of options at the moment we have 4 lambert waigo sagga paterson.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 compared to this squad - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlisle_United_F.C.#Current_squad no disrespect but those moaning about our team/squad really should read up on our competition. Our squad would be snapped up by other teams in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 why aren't Lambert, Hammond, Jaidi, Trottman, Kelvin or Harding in it? because it's the Echo, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Kelvin James Trotman Jaidi Harding Mellis Schneiderlin Hammond Mills Lallana Lambert Looks good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 And I am convinced that we will be on +1 come 5 o clock tomorrow, whatever the final team may be. The players injured are not part of the nucleus of the side (Murty apart) James will be OK at right back and Waigo has,as yet, proved the square root of sod all. I'm putting us down for a 3-1 win with 2 from Saga and 1 from ...someone else. Yes I agree an easy win followed by another on Tuesday any team will do Perhaps Pardew will call me complacent but who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 For me: James Trotman Jaidi Harding Lallana Spiderman Hammond Holmes Saga Lambert And a 3-0 thank you goodnight Carlisle!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 For me: James Trotman Jaidi Harding Lallana Spiderman Hammond Holmes Saga Lambert And a 3-0 thank you goodnight Carlisle!!! That is a bit over confident ten men and no goalie;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 That is a bit over confident ten men and no goalie;) Come on, like we have a choice between the sticks!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 I thought he was one of last seasons most improved players tbh. at the start of the season he was what he was, a young kid thrust into a professional league well before his time. But he got to grips with it...and i have no worries about him going to RB tbh, only thing we'll miss is the extra height Thomo gives us defending set pieces. I reckon its every aspiring footballers dream to play regularly for a League side, no matter how shyte that side may be. James may not have been ready, but I bet he loved every bloody minute of it, and of course it's made him the better footballer this year. A good footballer is one that keeps quiet and plays where the manager tells him to - his versitility will do wonders for us in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 25 September, 2009 Share Posted 25 September, 2009 Lambert and Lallana are upfront together tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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