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Southampton are in transfer talks with Falkirk after increasing their offer for Bairns midfielder Scott Arfield by a third to £400,000 rising to £1m with add-ons, but Preston and Huddersfield are also interested. (Daily Express)

 

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/154645/Southampton-in-talks-to-push-through-Arfield-deal

 

Anyone know much about him?

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21 years old and has scored 14 goals in 91 starts (11 sub appearances) including 1 against Celtic this season. So I guess he could fit into the catagory of being the AM to replace Mellis?

 

I was going to make a smart arse comment along the lines of all I know about him is that he is Scottish but looking on soccerbase he is English.

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Skacel scored a shedload of goals in Scotland but didn't do much for us.

Falkirk are the worst team in the Scottish prem apparently,their own manager said they were useless in their last game. This lad needs to prove himself in the Conference or something before anyone pays good money for him.

We have 3 midfielders James, Hammond and Morgan, play them in a 442 with Lallana and 2 strikers or in 451 with Antonio (or Papa) and 1 striker and they're all we need.Whilst Hammond is unavailable we need to play James,Morgan and Wotton and

Gillett or Gobern if necessary.We have gone transfer crazy of late.We had a team that was winning games, we change it and it goes tits up.

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I'll leave my reservations about him until I've seen him play. Naturally I'd rather have a "name" in central midfield, a player like Stock or Danns or Scholes (!) that could immediately come in and have an impact. Would Arfield? If Pardew thinks so, then I bloody hope so.

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Skacel scored a shedload of goals in Scotland but didn't do much for us.

Falkirk are the worst team in the Scottish prem apparently,their own manager said they were useless in their last game. This lad needs to prove himself in the Conference or something before anyone pays good money for him.

We have 3 midfielders James, Hammond and Morgan, play them in a 442 with Lallana and 2 strikers or in 451 with Antonio (or Papa) and 1 striker and they're all we need.Whilst Hammond is unavailable we need to play James,Morgan and Wotton and

Gillett or Gobern if necessary.We have gone transfer crazy of late.We had a team that was winning games, we change it and it goes tits up.

We have never really controlled the midfield in any games that I have seen this season so one or two proper midfield playmakers would come in very useful. Like you, I would prefer a settled team, but we have lost Trottman and I would rather build for the long-term.

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Got to trust Pardew's scouts, he hasn't made a bad signing yet imo (unsure about Otsemobor but will give him a few games at least, and 6 month signing is good business)

 

Also if he's interesting Championship clubs then he can't be too bad

 

it's only paper talk anyway.Just like Puncheon yesterday I expect, although that was TV talk.People are so avid for information (not fact though) that the meedjah will make up anything rather than appear ton not be informed.

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Skacel scored a shedload of goals in Scotland but didn't do much for us.

Falkirk are the worst team in the Scottish prem apparently,their own manager said they were useless in their last game. This lad needs to prove himself in the Conference or something before anyone pays good money for him.

We have 3 midfielders James, Hammond and Morgan, play them in a 442 with Lallana and 2 strikers or in 451 with Antonio (or Papa) and 1 striker and they're all we need.Whilst Hammond is unavailable we need to play James,Morgan and Wotton and

Gillett or Gobern if necessary.We have gone transfer crazy of late.We had a team that was winning games, we change it and it goes tits up.

 

I agree with you I think we've bought enough for now. The wierd thing is I never thought I'd here saints fans complaining that we are buying to many players things really have changed at our club:rolleyes:

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Skacel scored a shedload of goals in Scotland but didn't do much for us.

Falkirk are the worst team in the Scottish prem apparently,their own manager said they were useless in their last game. This lad needs to prove himself in the Conference or something before anyone pays good money for him.

We have 3 midfielders James, Hammond and Morgan, play them in a 442 with Lallana and 2 strikers or in 451 with Antonio (or Papa) and 1 striker and they're all we need.Whilst Hammond is unavailable we need to play James,Morgan and Wotton and

Gillett or Gobern if necessary.We have gone transfer crazy of late.We had a team that was winning games, we change it and it goes tits up.

 

Watched a videod interview with Falkirk manager on (BBC ?) where he talked out the club ..and their recent signing

PEDRO PELE (one time Saints and WBA midfield / defender). WOW :rolleyes: remember him ?

 

Sadly for all concerned Pele was injured in last nights game and has a serious Achilles problem and is out for the rest of the season. Hard luck Falkirk..it never rains but it pours !

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I agree with you I think we've bought enough for now. The wierd thing is I never thought I'd here saints fans complaining that we are buying to many players things really have changed at our club:rolleyes:

 

Perhaps we are buying too many mediocre players when just one or two quality players would suffice.

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Perhaps we are buying too many mediocre players when just one or two quality players would suffice.

 

but we probably can't get them, that's the problem.If we were anywhere near the play-offs we might get a few good championship players with our money, but they just don't fancy getting three bales of crap kicked out of them every Saturday and Tuesday until June 2011.

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I am still not convinced that AP has faultless in his signings - Trottman and Melis although they had good spells and may have potential - I would not consider them guaranteed 1st team players, Ostembor and Seabourne again fall into this category and there fans certainly were nt too upset when they left - Antonio looks great going forward but with no end product - Papa constantly offside and flatters to deceive - Connolly and Meurty constantly injured - Hammond, Fonte Lambert and Jaidi - yes all great signings but I could have chosen the leagues top goal scorer, an ex premiership player, another clubs captain and top championship player but that would not make me a genius at spotting players - To me James and Holmes are at best ordinary players no speed, average creatively average tackling - none of the last 5 or 6 games have we bossed the midfield - we really need another proven centre midfielder like Danns or Stock not more average squad players

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Scott Arfield is a player that Saints have been sniffing around for the last few weeks. It was rumoured that we offered £300,000 early January and Falkirk said they would not deal less than £500,000. He is a kid with a lot of potential and I suppose in todays markets £500,000 is not that big a gamble but definately one for the future IMO.

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Southampton are in transfer talks with Falkirk after increasing their offer for Bairns midfielder Scott Arfield by a third to £400,000 rising to £1m with add-ons, but Preston and Huddersfield are also interested. (Daily Express)

 

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/154645/Southampton-in-talks-to-push-through-Arfield-deal

 

Anyone know much about him?

 

NO...but Northern clubs Preston or Huddersfield may be a better bet for him.

With rare exception ..over the years, very few Scottish players travelled well down here in the south. ( I said FEW - not ALL)

 

A good investment if he is such a good prospect - for that fee, you would want to play him every week and only a Prem.side would pay that sort of money for an unknown prospect and then keep him in the Reserves.

 

Playing at the bottom of SPL is about the same level as L1 - so its no challenge for the lad.

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I agree with you I think we've bought enough for now. The wierd thing is I never thought I'd here saints fans complaining that we are buying to many players things really have changed at our club:rolleyes:

 

yes we have bought a lot, but we still haven't solved the midfield problem.

 

Hammond is good (but injured). James spent half his time as Murty's cover now plays MF but is now injured too. Schneiderlin is talented but young and not a leader-type, and still can't score. Wotton is too defensive-minded and not a replacement for Hammond. Antonio and Papa Waigo are good attacking " winger " types, but not ball-winning midfielders.

 

Lee Holmes may be part of the solution but he's just back from a long inury period, the others are too young.

 

OH!... for another Hughie Fisher or Jimmy Case :(

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I am still not convinced that AP has faultless in his signings - Trottman and Melis although they had good spells and may have potential - I would not consider them guaranteed 1st team players, Ostembor and Seabourne again fall into this category and there fans certainly were nt too upset when they left - Antonio looks great going forward but with no end product - Papa constantly offside and flatters to deceive - Connolly and Meurty constantly injured - Hammond, Fonte Lambert and Jaidi - yes all great signings but I could have chosen the leagues top goal scorer, an ex premiership player, another clubs captain and top championship player but that would not make me a genius at spotting players - To me James and Holmes are at best ordinary players no speed, average creatively average tackling - none of the last 5 or 6 games have we bossed the midfield - we really need another proven centre midfielder like Danns or Stock not more average squad players

Two players who we got on loan to test them out before they returned back seems like an effective use of the transfer market to me; the same could be said for Waigo. The fact that some gimps on a rival's forum weren't crying means nothing about the other two, we'll have to wait and see whether or not they turn out to be good signings. Cheer up mate, I know the sun isn't shining outside but things could be a lot worse.

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yes we have bought a lot, but we still haven't solved the midfield problem.

 

Hammond is good (but injured). James spent half his time as Murty's cover now plays MF but is now injured too. Schneiderlin is talented but young and not a leader-type, and still can't score. Wotton is too defensive-minded and not a replacement for Hammond. Antonio and Papa Waigo are good attacking " winger " types, but not ball-winning midfielders.

 

Lee Holmes may be part of the solution but he's just back from a long inury period, the others are too young.

 

OH!... for another Hughie Fisher or Jimmy Case :(

 

Lallana is a midfielder. I reckon Spiderman, Lallana and Wotton would do ok Papa and Holmes on the wings (of course it means playing 4-5-1).Morgans a lot more combatitive this season too (well he has more yellow and red cards than anyone else so he must be putting himself about more than last year).

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I am still not convinced that AP has faultless in his signings - Trottman and Melis although they had good spells and may have potential - I would not consider them guaranteed 1st team players, Ostembor and Seabourne again fall into this category and there fans certainly were nt too upset when they left - Antonio looks great going forward but with no end product - Papa constantly offside and flatters to deceive - Connolly and Meurty constantly injured - Hammond, Fonte Lambert and Jaidi - yes all great signings but I could have chosen the leagues top goal scorer, an ex premiership player, another clubs captain and top championship player but that would not make me a genius at spotting players - To me James and Holmes are at best ordinary players no speed, average creatively average tackling - none of the last 5 or 6 games have we bossed the midfield - we really need another proven centre midfielder like Danns or Stock not more average squad players

 

This is the most sensible appraisal of our transfer record this season that I have seen. I can't help feeling that several other managers in our division, given an equivalent amount to spend, would have produced a team that regularly dominated and won matches and was pushing for automatic promotion, despite the 10 points deduction.

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(well he has more yellow and red cards than anyone else so he must be putting himself about more than last year).

 

Not if we sign Puncheon ,he has a packet, something like 7 yellows and a straight red, must be aggressive, although Dons fan(s) say he is bit of a sulker if he doesn't get his way.

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I am still not convinced that AP has faultless in his signings - Trottman and Melis although they had good spells and may have potential - I would not consider them guaranteed 1st team players, Ostembor and Seabourne again fall into this category and there fans certainly were nt too upset when they left - Antonio looks great going forward but with no end product - Papa constantly offside and flatters to deceive - Connolly and Meurty constantly injured - Hammond, Fonte Lambert and Jaidi - yes all great signings but I could have chosen the leagues top goal scorer, an ex premiership player, another clubs captain and top championship player but that would not make me a genius at spotting players - To me James and Holmes are at best ordinary players no speed, average creatively average tackling - none of the last 5 or 6 games have we bossed the midfield - we really need another proven centre midfielder like Danns or Stock not more average squad players

 

I think Antonio does have a lot of end product, he scores a few goals and makes some good through balls. Sometimes he'll overhit a ball but we always look much more dangerous when he is on the pitch. We'll have to wait a bit to see how Otsemobor and Seabourne work out. Also its not just spotting the league top scorer, ex premiership etc players, its actually convincing them to come to Saints that Pardew is good at.

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I wouldn't say i'm an expert, but I follow the scottish leagues and Scott Arfield is certainly one of the better players outside the Old Firm clubs in the SPL. He's on the verge of a Scotland call-up and was linked with Celtic and Rangers recently I believe, as well as a couple of Championship clubs. £1m may be a little too much for him, but if that's what it takes to bring him here and Markus is willing to spend the money then I say go for it. He won't be a marquee player for this team, but I have every confidence that he'll be a very important player for us if he signs.

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Southampton are in transfer talks with Falkirk after increasing their offer for Bairns midfielder Scott Arfield by a third to £400,000 rising to £1m with add-ons, but Preston and Huddersfield are also interested. (Daily Express)

 

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/154645/Southampton-in-talks-to-push-through-Arfield-deal

 

Anyone know much about him?

 

 

friday pm.

 

reading other sites it seems that Huddersfield has already signed TWO other players yesterday, and Preston have pulled out of the deal ..(if that gossip is to be believed ).

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