Bridge Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 (edited) Listening to the Coast radio this morning and they said the FA is considering putting Saints through to the next round of the FA cup if Pompey goes under. What do others think about this? Edited 17 February, 2010 by Bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Pugwash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Bigger surprises have happened in this world so why not ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 After the excitement of Saturday, it's all a bit of an anti-climax and as we lost 4-1, it doesn't feel right.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Wouldn't the team they were to be playing against just go thru to the next round automatically. Surely you would have to favor the winning team and not the losing team ( Shrugs ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Doesnt feel right but ******, anything to get up the skates noses a bit more. We could do something honourable like donate the gate receipt after expenses for police, security etc.. to charity. Would be funny to get re-instated, then go gung-ho as we've got nothing to lose and actually get through to a semi-final at Wembley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustonmyfeet Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Nah, let's concentrate on the league so we can have the chance of stuffing them in the CCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 I don't want to go further we lost and it's one more game we most likely won't win. However I'd be happy for the FA to declare saturday as null in void so that we in fact didn't lose to pompey at home, and our 100% record in the cup against pompey stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 I still don't think the FA will let the skates go under! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 If anything they'll put Birmingham through, not us. Can't see it happening tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 If anything they'll put Birmingham through, not us. Can't see it happening tbh. I thought this too....but as everyone knows, the FA hates to lose out on money. They will like a game to go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 I still don't think the FA will let the skates go under! I expect they will give Portsmouth a (good) bye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 It would be hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Surely they will just go into administration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Listening to the Coast radio this morning and they said the FA is considering putting Saints through to the next round of the FA cup if Pompey goes under. What do others think about this? That's b*ll*cks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 I can't see it happening. There'd be uproar if we were to beat Birmingham. We lost 4-1, we don't deserve to be in the next round of the FA Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 If anything they'll put Birmingham through, not us. Can't see it happening tbh. You say that but this would be bad news for everyone including the FA, who would lose TV income (as would BFC), sponsorship income and the ability to sell the game around the world. If PFC are declared bankrupt they played us under false pretences and while trading illegally, the judge said she had concerns about their being solvent while we played them. If PFC had fielded an ineligible player and gone through, our game would have been at worst replayed. It is us who suffered an injustice by playing an illegal company. It would therefore make some theoretical sense to favour the team beaten under such circumstances as opposed to a team destined to play them in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Wow this site is famous now http://mypompey.com/blogs/news/archive/2010/02/17/do-southampton-fans-know-more-than-we-do.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 It'll never happen, but if it did we would obviously go on to win the cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamms_schmitz Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 The Brum will get a by to the next round. They would not put Southampton back in. Keep dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Listening to the Coast radio this morning and they said the FA is considering putting Saints through to the next round of the FA cup if Pompey goes under. What do others think about this? Doesn't make sense Pompey are in Court Weds, to submit a Financial Statement They then return to Court in March to defend the winding up petition from HM Govt By then, the NEXT round of the FA Cup will have taken place So Saints will NOT be in the FA Cup by default:D:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Wow this site is famous now http://mypompey.com/blogs/news/archive/2010/02/17/do-southampton-fans-know-more-than-we-do.aspx They have a point though, dont they, the pompey takeover thread has been bordering on "sad" for a while now. We could attribute the size of the thread to the fact that pompey discussion usually stays in that thread and its been going for a very long time. I dunno, tis an awfully big thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 I still don't think the FA will let the skates go under! Correct They will bend ANY and ALL of their stupid Rules to keep them going Perhaps Gordon Brown should take note, and let the Banks keep trading forever, whilst still being technically INSOLVENT:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 They have a point though, dont they, the pompey takeover thread has been bordering on "sad" for a while now. We could attribute the size of the thread to the fact that pompey discussion usually stays in that thread and its been going for a very long time. I dunno, tis an awfully big thread! Almost as big as the one by which they are clinging to existance ???:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 You say that but this would be bad news for everyone including the FA, who would lose TV income (as would BFC), sponsorship income and the ability to sell the game around the world. If PFC are declared bankrupt they played us under false pretences and while trading illegally, the judge said she had concerns about their being solvent while we played them. If PFC had fielded an ineligible player and gone through, our game would have been at worst replayed. It is us who suffered an injustice by playing an illegal company. It would therefore make some theoretical sense to favour the team beaten under such circumstances as opposed to a team destined to play them in future. But if as it seems, Pompey have been trading illegally for sometime then Coventry and Sunderland also have a case for re-instatement. The whole thing would be too messy and therefore I would expect Brum to be given a bye. However, we could feasibly claim financial recompense I suppose ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgnorthSaint Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Nah, let's concentrate on the league so we can have the chance of stuffing them in the CCC The league is now the priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Listening to the Coast radio this morning and they said the FA is considering putting Saints through to the next round of the FA cup if Pompey goes under. What do others think about this? That's b*ll*cks. Can't see it myself but was also in yesterday's Sun, mentioned on Radio5, and other papers and websites. - Even the Skates paper! One thing that may change the FA's thinking is the comments in court about how they are trading. If this is backed up in their paperwork today then the FA may be more sympathetic to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Can't see it myself but was also in yesterday's Sun, mentioned on Radio5, and other papers and websites. - Even the Skates paper! One thing that may change the FA's thinking is the comments in court about how they are trading. If this is backed up in their paperwork today then the FA may be more sympathetic to us I think they need to discuss it as its money and sponsership down the pan if they dont have an idea on what to do. Personally I doubt the PL will let Poopy go under mid season so they dont have to think about any alternative actions. But if the finacial report basically condems Poopy then the courts may bring the March 1st hearing forward and put Poopy out of there misery. If that happens the FA need to know what options are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 The league is now the priority Agreed after Saturday we could be 1 point from relegation with a 6 pointer against Wycombe on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Listening to the Coast radio this morning and they said the FA is considering putting Saints through to the next round of the FA cup if Pompey goes under. What do others think about this? They'll go into administration - thats the most likely worst case scenario However, if they do go to the wall I'd rather the FA give a bye to Brum so we can concentrate on winning the rest of our league games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 I think they need to discuss it as its money and sponsership down the pan if they dont have an idea on what to do. Personally I doubt the PL will let Poopy go under mid season so they dont have to think about any alternative actions. But if the finacial report basically condems Poopy then the courts may bring the March 1st hearing forward and put Poopy out of there misery. If that happens the FA need to know what options are available. If hearing decides they have been trading insolvently they have the power to liquidate the club and so it is outside the PL's hands - realistically though it wont happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 No thanks. We'd lose to Brum so might as well give them a bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Been discussed a lot on other threads, general consensus appears Brum should get a bye but we should chase compensation from FA for potential loss of earnings for being put out by a club (possibly trading whilst insolvent) fielding players who should never have been on the pitch. We'd probably have beaten a slightly weaker skates. Alternatively, put Saints, Sunderland and Cov (who would also have reason for complaint) in a hat and draw one out to play Brum. The other two could then try for compensation. Wont happen but if the blue few have been trading insolvently for some time there's going to be a lot of people demanding serious answers from the authorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 But if as it seems, Pompey have been trading illegally for sometime then Coventry and Sunderland also have a case for re-instatement. The whole thing would be too messy and therefore I would expect Brum to be given a bye. However, we could feasibly claim financial recompense I suppose ? No, only we played them after a visit to the High Court and a judge's verdict on their trading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Agreed after Saturday we could be 1 point from relegation with a 6 pointer against Wycombe on Tuesday. Is your glass always half empty ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 As much as it hurts lets just put last weekends result behind us and move on, we have a nice day out at Wembley to look forward to at the end of March and also try and get into the play offs (very big ask). At best that lot down east will go into administration or someone will bail them out at the death IMO for what its worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Is your glass always half empty ? No but that is the reality. I think we are very unlikely to go to Norwich on Saturday and do a Colchester and more likely to lose by the odd goal. Brighton are away to Leeds and considering the league form of the latter and Brighton's manager likely desire to be up for the game I think Brighton have a better chance of a result than we do. Finally Tranmere are at home to Orient and that could easily go either way. We are most likely to be 3pts from relegation come Saturday night but of the other ouitcomes we are more likely to be only 1pt instead of 7pt don't you agree? Is my glass always half empty? Depends what's in the glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 As much as it hurts lets just put last weekends result behind us and move on, we have a nice day out at Wembley to look forward to at the end of March and also try and get into the play offs (very big ask). At best that lot down east will go into administration or someone will bail them out at the death IMO for what its worth. I agree that we should enjoy our day out to Wembley and look forward to getting safe in the league and enjoy watching Pardew develop the experience and his options in the squad and so we can 'do a Norwich' next year unless Cortese has a brainstorm and decides to ditch Pardew and reach for his own Gunn. What I don't want to see is having got safe waste time and energy on trying to achieve the impossible. It may look possible on paper but we play on grass and since Christmas our achievements on grass have shown the play offs are beyond our current horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 After the excitement of Saturday, it's all a bit of an anti-climax and as we lost 4-1, it doesn't feel right.................. But think of the money ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 I agree that we should enjoy our day out to Wembley and look forward to getting safe in the league and enjoy watching Pardew develop the experience and his options in the squad and so we can 'do a Norwich' next year unless Cortese has a brainstorm and decides to ditch Pardew and reach for his own Gunn. What I don't want to see is having got safe waste time and energy on trying to achieve the impossible. It may look possible on paper but we play on grass and since Christmas our achievements on grass have shown the play offs are beyond our current horizon. I agree that the play-offs are more than likely out of reach but that does not mean we shouldn't bust a gut to try and get as close as possible. Liebherr, Cortese and I would hope Pardew will not accept us meandering our way through the rest of the season. We go for as many wins as we can and if it's not enough, then so be it but anything less is unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyd Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Administration can only happen if Pompey can pay the fees to the IP. Otherwise it will be liquidation. Only Begbis would take us on because of the risks of not getting their wack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 I agree that the play-offs are more than likely out of reach but that does not mean we shouldn't bust a gut to try and get as close as possible. Liebherr, Cortese and I would hope Pardew will not accept us meandering our way through the rest of the season. We go for as many wins as we can and if it's not enough, then so be it but anything less is unacceptable. Exactamundo! I think expectations of playoffs or else are off the mark but the ambition to try to get there should be top for everyone at the club. It also looks that the general feeling for the FA Cup is that we should argue the case of Poopy cheating but let Brum have the bye into the next round. If poopy do go bust it looks like it would be the FA that fights for us to be re-instated harder than any of us would as it will be there competition that loses out by missing games late in the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Pugwash What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 If pompey go bust then the fairest resuult in my eyes would be for Saints to play coventry in playoff with the winner playing Brum. Simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 I agree that we should enjoy our day out to Wembley and look forward to getting safe in the league and enjoy watching Pardew develop the experience and his options in the squad and so we can 'do a Norwich' next year unless Cortese has a brainstorm and decides to ditch Pardew and reach for his own Gunn. What I don't want to see is having got safe waste time and energy on trying to achieve the impossible. It may look possible on paper but we play on grass and since Christmas our achievements on grass have shown the play offs are beyond our current horizon. Kinda agree with you, NC could be hitting form at the wrong time. I do also agree we should be aiming to win every match if nothing else to instill a proper winnign mentality and put the fear of god himself into th opposition for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 If Poopy have to slip quietly away so be it. I for one would feel embarrassed taking their place though and would hope that Brum get a bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 I agree that the play-offs are more than likely out of reach but that does not mean we shouldn't bust a gut to try and get as close as possible. Liebherr, Cortese and I would hope Pardew will not accept us meandering our way through the rest of the season. We go for as many wins as we can and if it's not enough, then so be it but anything less is unacceptable. Who said anything about meandering through the rest of the season. Once safe we will learn nothing except that it was impossible if we simply bust a gut with the current first 11. What is wrong with maintaining the will to win and experiment a little in readiness for next season. Your approach and we learn nothing, Pardew will get hounded for blooding some youngsters and we heinously waste 10 competitive games or thereabouts get a head start on the opposition for next season. Have we learned nothing from last year not to mention the recent years before that? Finishing 8th will be meaningless if we ruin all our best players to acheive it and learn nothing about the rest of our squad. IMO the games will be infinitely more interesting and enjoyable seeing new players get a decent run out than watching a diet of games that the current weary looking first 11 have been dishing out since Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Who said anything about meandering through the rest of the season. Once safe we will learn nothing except that it was impossible if we simply bust a gut with the current first 11. What is wrong with maintaining the will to win and experiment a little in readiness for next season. Your approach and we learn nothing, Pardew will get hounded for blooding some youngsters and we heinously waste 10 competitive games or thereabouts get a head start on the opposition for next season. Have we learned nothing from last year not to mention the recent years before that? Finishing 8th will be meaningless if we ruin all our best players to acheive it and learn nothing about the rest of our squad. IMO the games will be infinitely more interesting and enjoyable seeing new players get a decent run out than watching a diet of games that the current weary looking first 11 have been dishing out since Christmas. Hmm, I am undecided and think we have the capacity for both. If we can get two/three goals up in a game, then you blood the youngsters. This is what Australia have done so well for year and years in cricket - bring the kids in against Bangladesh and let them ease in with confidence around them. We will learn nothing being beaten that's for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 Hmm, I am undecided and think we have the capacity for both. If we can get two/three goals up in a game, then you blood the youngsters. This is what Australia have done so well for year and years in cricket - bring the kids in against Bangladesh and let them ease in with confidence around them. We will learn nothing being beaten that's for sure! +1 You only have to see what happened last year to know that makes complete sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 17 February, 2010 Share Posted 17 February, 2010 If anything they'll put Birmingham through, not us. Can't see it happening tbh. Probably, but isn't there is an issue here that Pompey were given what amounted to be a stay of execution from last Wednesday [10th Feb..?]. If their statement of affairs doesn't satisfy the HMRC, then surely they were operating illegally before the Saints match. That could mean that the match result wouldn't stand, and that Saints would get a bye. Personally, I don't think so, and that if any club was given a bye, it would be Birmingham City. But it is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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