NickG Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 reports are saying Markus was really upset not to be able to give Pardew and players a warm thank you after an enjoyable first season. Unfortunately due to the volcanic disruption to flights to Switzerland he was unable to make the trip. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8670560.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 'Reports' - source ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 So, Marcus wasn't at the game, AND he wasn't happy. You can make any story you want fit around those two facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 What reports are they then ?? I see no mention of Marcus ?? Although, i did think all along this would be the more likely reason over the panicing going on in this board atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 "Flights from the UK to Spain, France, Switzerland, Germany and Portugal have been grounded. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintkiptanui Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 This is what happened, pretty obvious, this place is for mad fookers who love conspiracy, bunch of weirdo's, I blame Baj and Steve Grant for letting it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 This is what happened, pretty obvious, this place is for mad fookers who love conspiracy, bunch of weirdo's, I blame Baj and Steve Grant for letting it happen. damn them, damn them all to hell right, whats next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 I was at the ground and I wasn't happy, but then I was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 reports are saying markus was really upset not to be able to give pardew and players a warm thank you after an enjoyable first season. Unfortunately due to the volcanic disruption to flights to switzerland he was unable to make the trip. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8670560.stm what reports??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 9 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2010 This is what happened, pretty obvious, this place is for mad fookers who love conspiracy, bunch of weirdo's, I blame Baj and Steve Grant for letting it happen. forums need moans and conspiracies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 what reports??? Loads of them. Massive detail, plenty of content. Goes into how he felt every minute, what he did during the day, how many steps it took him to walk from the bed to the fridge and more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 NICKG in attention seeking shocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 9 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2010 says wum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 9 May, 2010 Share Posted 9 May, 2010 reports are saying Markus was really upset not to be able to give Pardew and players a warm thank you after an enjoyable first season. Which 'reports' are you quoting Nick? Or is this more made up boll0x? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 9 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2010 more? what are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Anyone with any intelligence would read that article and find that in fact Mr.Lierbherr was unable to travel on sunday, meaning that people obviously assumed he wasnt there because he wasnt happy and the meeting on wednesday (which is probably to do with reviewing the season, seeing what needs to be done over summer to make promotion push next year etc) into a Pardew is going to be sacked meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 So, Marcus wasn't at the game, AND he wasn't happy. You can make any story you want fit around those two facts. But why did he send his look-alike to the game, sitting by Nicola? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Where's 'Mister Neil', our resident Director's Box photographer, when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Rumours and conspiracy theories will proliferate until the OS breaks its silence. If the OS has a point, surely it is to let us know what is going on. And I would have expected Marcus to be at the game and am surprised there has been no mention on the OS, though slightly less surprised than that there has been no explanation of why there were no programmes and and that there has been no response to rumours of a meeting on Wednesday. And a new manager? It's all beginning to sound depressingly familiar. The club must be aware of fans' unease and should allay any fears, otherwise the good will they have built up will fall away.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyb1 Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 (edited) Everybody needs to calm down. Half the problem is general thirst for instant information all of the time. People get themselves worked up into a frenzy about what often turns out to be nothing. Its not a conspiracy, they'll announce whatever they have or don't have to say when they are in a situation to do so i'm sure. In the meantime people need to chill out, the season finished 2 days ago...... Edited 10 May, 2010 by Andyb1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Everybody needs to calm down. Half the problem is general thirst for instant information all of the time. People get themselves worked up into a frenzy about what often turns out to be nothing. Its not a conspiracy, they'll whatever the have or don't have to say when they are in a situation to do so i'm sure. In the meantime people need to chill out, the season finished 2 days ago...... This is obviously the correct point to make. There are so many whiny, self-obsessed oddballs in society these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Everybody needs to calm down. Half the problem is general thirst for instant information all of the time. People get themselves worked up into a frenzy about what often turns out to be nothing. Its not a conspiracy, they'll whatever the have or don't have to say when they are in a situation to do so i'm sure. In the meantime people need to chill out, the season finished 2 days ago...... No, this is NOT the correct point to make. An explanation for the programme fiasco is needed today, and it needs to be plausible, or there is no point in giving one at all, and they might as well close down the OS as it will have proved itself as totally pointless and irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 No, this is NOT the correct point to make. An explanation for the programme fiasco is needed today, and it needs to be plausible, or there is no point in giving one at all, and they might as well close down the OS as it will have proved itself as totally pointless and irrelevant. I'm sure there will be an announcement about the programmes at some point. Why is it needed today? Can't you cope without it? Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 No, this is NOT the correct point to make.An exlanation for the programme fiasco is needed today, and it needs to be plausible, or there is no point in giving one at all, and they might as well close down the OS as it will have proved itself as totally pointless and irrelevant. You won`t get it! From the "No Programme" thread:- Got my answer in about 2 hours.....and here it is. Thank you for your enquiry regarding Saturday's Matchday Programme. Due to unforeseen circumstances, this programme was removed from circulation. Unfortunately, we are unable to provide any copies of this programme for any purpose. Naturally, we do apologise for any inconvenience this causes. The Club will not be making any further comment on this issue Regards David David Luker Head of Supporter Services Southampton Football Club So we are no more the wiser ay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Well, according to Victor we may as well close down the OS then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyb1 Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 I'm sure there will be an announcement about the programmes at some point. Why is it needed today? Can't you cope without it? Weird. I think he may have to. A struggle it will be i'm sure but if you REALLY try and i'm mean your hardest. You may survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Well, according to Victor we may as well close down the OS then. I'm not sure if he's on a wind-up or just really, really, highly strung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 I'm not sure if he's on a wind-up or just really, really, highly strung. I imagine he has every programme since 1953, blah, blah, blah and is just really gutted about the whole thing. In which case... meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 I imagine he has every programme since 1953, blah, blah, blah and is just really gutted about the whole thing. In which case... meh. In which case he'd be one of the few who got his in the post already... ..the weirdest thing about all of this is that the programme IS clearly out there in the public domain, and there's nothing stopping anyone from uploading it. By the time the club get a copyright strop put on it everyone will have copy for themselves downloaded from that source, and it'll be completely pointless trying to suppress it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 This Pardew, Cortese, Markus speculation currently rife on the forum, sure makes a change from the usual end of season rumours along the lines of 1) Who is buying/saving the club from extinction? 2) Which of our best players are we about to lose? 3) Who will be the manager? 4) Will we actually get some proper preparation and pre season before August? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 I'm sure there will be an announcement about the programmes at some point. Why is it needed today? Can't you cope without it? Weird. I'm sure there will be an announcement about the programmes at some point. Why is it needed today? Can't you cope without it? Weird. I'm with you on this one. If the club had a policy of instantly refuting every single half-a*sed rumour dreamt up by the media they'd have to spend the whole summer releasing statements! When there's something meaningful to tell us, I'm sure they'll tell us, but it'll be on their timescale and not that of the impatient few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 ..the weirdest thing about all of this is that the programme IS clearly out there in the public domain, and there's nothing stopping anyone from uploading it. People on here have seen it, Steve Grant for one - and guess what - there is nothing in it to fuel any conspiracy / coverup rumour. I have no idea why the programme was withdrawn - but since the editorial content appears innocuous its more likely it was because of some quality or contractual issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 This Pardew, Cortese, Markus speculation currently rife on the forum, sure makes a change from the usual end of season rumours along the lines of 1) Who is buying/saving the club from extinction? 2) Which of our best players are we about to lose? 3) Who will be the manager? 4) Will we actually get some proper preparation and pre season before August? 1) The people we're complaining about 2) Lambert/Lallana/Fonte/everyone, have you not seen the other threads? 3) Pardew/Hughes, have you not seen the other threads? 4) Probably not if we sack the manager, have you not... etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 People on here have seen it, Steve Grant for one - and guess what - there is nothing in it to fuel any conspiracy / coverup rumour. I have no idea why the programme was withdrawn - but since the editorial content appears innocuous its more likely it was because of some quality or contractual issue. I know, he told me in the pub on Saturday, and I mentioned it twice in this thread already... ...my point is that in terms of stopping people getting hold of it, the worst thing they can do is try and suppress it as it only makes people interested. Seeing as they're presumably trying to build interest in STs and the new kits by restricting information on them, you'd think they'd realise this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 I know, he told me in the pub on Saturday, and I mentioned it twice in this thread already... ...my point is that in terms of stopping people getting hold of it, the worst thing they can do is try and suppress it as it only makes people interested. Seeing as they're presumably trying to build interest in STs and the new kits by restricting information on them, you'd think they'd realise this... Given the frequency with which you've heard, I surprised you havent grasped the issue yet. Its most likely a contractual rather than editorial problem. Circulating the offending programme will likely lead to someone getting sued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 (edited) I don't get it. I'd have thought that the owner would have written a bit for the last programme of the year at least saying how pleased he is at the progress made during the year, at so nearly getting to the playoffs, at the JPT win. Not only no article, but withdrawn programmes. I do think Pardew's comment about not getting what their efforts deserve may have been code for something else, not just that we failed to get a deserved place in the playoffs. Given it was the last game of the season, which ML couldn't get to because of flight disruptions, I'd have thought some expression of regret about that to the local press and on the OS might have been an obvious thing to do. Its all very well taking the position that we don't respond to every bit of gossip and rumour, but sometimes good fan relations demand it, and it does no good to ignore that. Pardew's own published comments are sounding somewhat irritated and perhaps a bit dispirited. Whether anything is wrong or not, the impression is certainly being generated that things are not right. And that bad atmoshere can grow into something more serious if not dealt with effectively and promptly. Maybe NC thinks that Wednesday is soon enough, and isn't going to be provoked, but it's what we haven't heard from ML that is ringing alarm bells for me. My own view is that what we might be seeing here was an attempt to buy a club cheaply, get some quick success, and sell dear in 2-3 years time. And I have a feeling they see their programme slipping, and possibly even slipping again... or that "someone" is getting bored now. Edited 10 May, 2010 by hughieslastminutegoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Given the frequency with which you've heard, I surprised you havent grasped the issue yet. Its most likely a contractual rather than editorial problem. Circulating the offending programme will likely lead to someone getting sued. So you reckon someone paid for advertisement space to encourage fans to buy goods or services, defined what the advert would look like, then decided at the very last minute that if we distributed it they'd sue us? Or that someone else would sue them? I would think that would be a first for a football programme! I'd be gobsmacked if that were the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Well, according to Victor we may as well close down the OS then. Presumably you are called Benjii as you are a little puppy - the club's puppy? They have now said they are not going to give us an explanation - that makes it weirder in my view. If you are happy to be treated with contempt, then OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 My own view is that what we might be seeing here was an attempt to buy a club cheaply, get some quick success, and sell dear in 2-3 years time. And I have a feeling they see their programme slipping, and possibly even slipping again... or that "someone" is getting bored now. Just a quick question for anyone who can answer... Has the building work started on the Staplewood redevelopment yet and/or when is it scheduled for completion? I thought they said ready end of July initially, but have heard nothing since. Is this project a goer or has it gone to the back burner perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 ..and for those who talk about the five year plan proving their commitment.. Kraft said they wouldn't close the Somerset Cadbury's factory...oh. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 May, 2010 Share Posted 10 May, 2010 Presumably you are called Benjii as you are a little puppy - the club's puppy? They have now said they are not going to give us an explanation - that makes it weirder in my view. If you are happy to be treated with contempt, then OK. Contempt? You're right, I must stand up for man's inalienable right to be sold a matchday programme. Shame on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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