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Andoverian

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Last season I paid £130 for the season for all games. This year it is £200 plus £10.50 per cup game. No thanks. Im getting on now and if I find the walk to the ground too much this will be my last season as a supporter after 55 years. This club will soon put people like me out of their price range !!

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Last season I paid £130 for the season for all games. This year it is £200 plus £10.50 per cup game. No thanks. Im getting on now and if I find the walk to the ground too much this will be my last season as a supporter after 55 years. This club will soon put people like me out of their price range !!

 

Don't some of the local businesses do it for a £5? It would be a damn shame to lose long term fans like yourself.

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Is it the Club charging this or the owners of the car parking areas. We are in S owned by the University i think. £70 more than last year, they can stuff it. At this rate they will sell no spaces at £0instead of quite a few at £130-00. Greedy, robbing bastards. Cortese can get stuffed if he is responsible.

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Last season I paid £130 for the season for all games. This year it is £200 plus £10.50 per cup game. No thanks. Im getting on now and if I find the walk to the ground too much this will be my last season as a supporter after 55 years. This club will soon put people like me out of their price range !!

 

If this is correct then i may have to see if they will refund my season ticket money, they struggled to fill the car park i was in at Hansons yard last season, if it is £200 plus cup games on top, then how do they hope to fill it this season.

50 years of support to end

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Andoverian

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Is it the Club charging this or the owners of the car parking areas. We are in S owned by the University i think. £70 more than last year, they can stuff it. At this rate they will sell no spaces at £0instead of quite a few at £130-00. Greedy, robbing bastards. Cortese can get stuffed if he is responsible.

I umderstand it is the club as they say that they need to charge this greatly hiked price to cover the costs. I find this hard to accept as I cannot believe that our old friend Rupert would have subsidised fans parking. I'm sorry to say that Cortese seems to be making the same mistakes as Lowe. He appears to have very little understanding or regard for the rank and file fan. With a decent run in any of the cups parking could rise from £130 to between £250 and £350. If I had known this I would have not renewed my season ticket. What will happen if we get promoted to the Championship I hate to think.

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Dave Benson Phillips

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I umderstand it is the club as they say that they need to charge this greatly hiked price to cover the costs. I find this hard to accept as I cannot believe that our old friend Rupert would have subsidised fans parking. I'm sorry to say that Cortese seems to be making the same mistakes as Lowe. He appears to have very little understanding or regard for the rank and file fan. With a decent run in any of the cups parking could rise from £130 to between £250 and £350. If I had known this I would have not renewed my season ticket. What will happen if we get promoted to the Championship I hate to think.

 

You are entitled to a refund of your season ticket, for the record.

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Is this thread getting out of hand like many others?

 

Have the staff of SMS been told they must pay for parking on non match days?

 

The introduction to staff paying on match days was that Cortese identified that on such days the car park filled with paying customers. Rather than kick out the employees to increase revenue streams he suggested a small fee for the day.

 

Customers and other non employees paying on non match days is a revenue stream

 

It really is not a big deal. Increasing revenue streams was always part of the business plan.

 

As for match day parking, the fee increase, if correct, does seem high. Rose Bowl charge £7 per day or a season ticket for £70.

 

Parking in the city is £5 for 5 hours. That is £115 for 23 matches, less if you take off some night matches. A slight premium perhaps for knowing you have a spot but I would have thought last seasons fees should not need to be increased.

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Have the staff of SMS been told they must pay for parking on non match days?

I'd heard (admittedly third-hand information) that this was the case, but that's not - as far as I can see - the original point of the thread. It appears that the matchday car parks have increased in price by more than 50%.

 

I'm sure some will claim that it actually costs the club £70 to print a pass, put it in an envelope and post it out, though, such is the nature of some on here.

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Dave Benson Phillips

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Is this thread getting out of hand like many others?

 

Have the staff of SMS been told they must pay for parking on non match days?

 

The introduction to staff paying on match days was that Cortese identified that on such days the car park filled with paying customers. Rather than kick out the employees to increase revenue streams he suggested a small fee for the day.

 

Customers and other non employees paying on non match days is a revenue stream

 

It really is not a big deal. Increasing revenue streams was always part of the business plan.

 

As for match day parking, the fee increase, if correct, does seem high. Rose Bowl charge £7 per day or a season ticket for £70.

 

Parking in the city is £5 for 5 hours. That is £115 for 23 matches, less if you take off some night matches. A slight premium perhaps for knowing you have a spot but I would have thought last seasons fees should not need to be increased.

 

Weston, you're an old man, surely you can understand that many people who use the stadium car parks, do so because they struggle to walk the fairly long stomp back into town, through age or disability.

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well, in that interview from march (posted on here last week I think)

 

he clearly says (as well as the bloke conducting the interview) that we are being "helped" by markus still

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?23437-Cortese-Interview-March

History tells us to take things said by people in charge of Southampton FC, both past and present, with a heavy pinch of salt.

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Thedelldays

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History tells us to take things said by people in charge of Southampton FC, both past and present, with a heavy pinch of salt.

 

so, we are just going to cherry pick what we believe..?

that is it...no matter what no, he is full of ****e (unless it mean a reduction in any pricing structure)..?

 

I guess poor old NC is as good as done here at saints..seems he is just full of crap...

oh well, cant wait till we plough into the next bloke in charge

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Dave Benson Phillips

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like you stu...you dont even go for the football..so why do you care..?

 

I would have gone to every game this season, if the club had a sensible season ticket structure. I care because I a) Had planned to go on the pre-season tour. b) Had budgeted to use the installment plan, the the deliberate delaying and removal means I and many of my friend now can't afford a season ticket.

 

So, I would say I am considerably more affected with what is going on at the club than someone like yourself, who has not been directly affected significantly by any of the decisions made by the club.

 

Fair comment?

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I would have gone to every game this season, if the club had a sensible season ticket structure. I care because I a) Had planned to go on the pre-season tour. b) Had budgeted to use the installment plan, the the deliberate delaying and removal means I now can't.

 

So, I would say I am considerably more affected with what is going on at the club than someone like yourself, who has not been directly affected significantly by any of the decisions made by the club.

 

Fair comment?

 

 

of course you were going to the pre season tour stu....yep, for sure..if it was not for the pesky club..you were off around europe..

 

excuse me whilst I think that is convenient ********...

 

anyway, I thought I could moan during the season but a few threads on here are simply hysterical..

 

i bet you wish NC (and his billionaire mate who is still funding the club) did not bother..? I really think you agree with that

 

im off out..

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of course you were going to the pre season tour stu....yep, for sure..if it was not for the pesky club..you were off around europe..

 

excuse me whilst I think that is convenient ********...

 

anyway, I thought I could moan during the season but a few threads on here are simply hysterical..

 

i bet you wish NC (and his billionaire mate who is still funding the club) did not bother..? I really think you agree with that

 

im off out..

 

Errr, I have been kicking off about the pre-season tour since the end of February wanting to know where it was so I could book flights quite publicly on here... stating that I was intending on going this year, I am sure people will back that up and as soon as Stevo pulls his finger out and sorts the post search, I will pwn you with it and accept your apology.

 

Do you have any proof that Liebherr is funding the club? Apart from Cortese saying so ( which actually proves nothing ) the accounts will make interesting reason, and apart from his initial setup investment, I massively believe we are running in profit, once the accounts are out, I will accept your apology again.

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I umderstand it is the club as they say that they need to charge this greatly hiked price to cover the costs. I find this hard to accept as I cannot believe that our old friend Rupert would have subsidised fans parking. I'm sorry to say that Cortese seems to be making the same mistakes as Lowe. He appears to have very little understanding or regard for the rank and file fan. With a decent run in any of the cups parking could rise from £130 to between £250 and £350. If I had known this I would have not renewed my season ticket. What will happen if we get promoted to the Championship I hate to think.

I rang the club to find out what the parking situation was as I hadn`t heard anything, and was told that previously the club HAD subsidised the car parking, but they have now been told that all operations must cover themselves financially.

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FAO Delldays

 

Has anyone heard any rumours about where it might be this year? A bit premature I know, but I want to get my holiday for the year booked up, if it's anywhere decent I will do the tour.

 

I am thinking / hoping that it will be Italy, with Cortese's contacts.

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?19653-Pre-Season-Tour

 

I was generous, it was actually January that I started a thread confirming that I was going on the pre-season tour this year.

 

When it comes to Cortese, I am not saying things just for the fun of it, I genuinely think he is showing a complete lack of empathy and understanding towards the supporters, as well as a massive arrogance.

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I was told that previously the club HAD subsidised the car parking.

 

That makes sense. It was probably part of the planning deal, in the same vein as the subsidised buses. Having set a precedent by abolishing those a couple of years back, this just follows on from that.

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Cortese said from 'Day 1' that the club would now be run on a self-sustaining basis.

 

It seems obvious to me that he's discovered (or had it re-inforced) that last season's income did not cover last season's costs so he is having to find ways of either increasing the income streams or reducing costs or a combination of the two.

 

Perhaps if people are unhappy with the income streams he has chosen to maximise (e.g. ticket "tax", car parking, potential hike in concourse refreshment costs) what other revenue streams or cost bases would they choose to focus on instead?

 

It's all very easy to criticise cost cutting and price rises but it's less easy to come up with alternative ways of making an organisation self-sustaining (in good times and bad).

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Cortese said from 'Day 1' that the club would now be run on a self-sustaining basis.

 

It seems obvious to me that he's discovered (or had it re-inforced) that last season's income did not cover last season's costs so he is having to find ways of either increasing the income streams or reducing costs or a combination of the two.

 

Perhaps if people are unhappy with the income streams he has chosen to maximise (e.g. ticket "tax", car parking, potential hike in concourse refreshment costs) what other revenue streams or cost bases would they choose to focus on instead?

 

It's all very easy to criticise cost cutting and price rises but it's less easy to come up with alternative ways of making an organisation self-sustaining (in good times and bad).

 

Concentrate on maximising season ticket sales, regardless of our league position, crowds won't significantly rise until the last 3 or 4 games of the season, no Boxing Day game, no Leeds this year, only potential sell-out is Bournemouth.

 

20k STH is much more revenue than 10k STH and 10k casual fans, this has to be the case or clubs would not make such an effort to sell season tickets. I cannot see the casual fans going to 14 games a season, it just won't happen.

 

Also, employ better sales staff and maximise sponsorship and corporate sale ( each corporate seat is worth 4 times that of a standard seat in profit and valuable networking for sponsorship )

 

Have no massive problem with the booking fee, but it should have been used to encourage people to get season tickets, not force people to pay on a match by match basis so they have to pay the fees.

 

There are more things they could do, many more.

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Cortese said from 'Day 1' that the club would now be run on a self-sustaining basis.

 

It seems obvious to me that he's discovered (or had it re-inforced) that last season's income did not cover last season's costs so he is having to find ways of either increasing the income streams or reducing costs or a combination of the two.

 

Perhaps if people are unhappy with the income streams he has chosen to maximise (e.g. ticket "tax", car parking, potential hike in concourse refreshment costs) what other revenue streams or cost bases would they choose to focus on instead?

 

It's all very easy to criticise cost cutting and price rises but it's less easy to come up with alternative ways of making an organisation self-sustaining (in good times and bad).

My problem with this is that firstly, they are trying to change the way that things have been done in one go - a more phased approach would probably have been more acceptable to the fans - and there has been little, or in most cases, no communication with the fans on this.

I don`t think that anyone can argue with the principle of the club being run as an efficient business, bearing in mind what has happened down the M27

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My problem with this is that firstly, they are trying to change the way that things have been done in one go - a more phased approach would probably have been more acceptable to the fans - and there has been little, or in most cases, no communication with the fans on this.

I don`t think that anyone can argue with the principle of the club being run as an efficient business, bearing in mind what has happened down the M27

 

Tend to agree with that. A simple "no pain, no gain" news bulletin from Cortese would close down c.37 threads on here at a shot.

 

I'm guessing that Cortese comes from the school of business thought which says that 'strong management = autonomy not inclusivity'.

 

However, as several people have indicated before, most Saints fans I speak to that don't frequent internet message boards and the like don't hang on every snippent of news coming out of SMS and thus do not share the same level of angst that some regular 'onliners' do.

 

In the same way that I like going to the cinema but when I pitch up to watch a film I have no idea what online debates there have been about the price of a cinema ticket being hiked to 10% (or whatever) more than last year and that it now costs me £2 to park in the multi-story car park compared to £1 last year. I simply turn up, pay the price, watch the film and come back again a couple of weeks later if I felt I got value for money and good entertainment.

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If increasing the cost of parking "near the ground" has to increase to cover the operating costs so be it. If you don't like it park somewhere else, find another method of transport, or don't bother. It's is increasingly tiresome to hear a small minority moaning about what appear to be sensible and more to the point realistic measures set out by the club.

 

£200 to park at the stadium is something I wouldn't pay but if you want that convenience that's what it is. Our club MUST run profitably - agreed not at the expense of the masses - BUT this cost and the STs will only effect a very small percentage realistically.

 

IMHO if NC does not make tough decisions, and I don't think any have been that bad, the club may struggle long term. Sure ML is ploughing money in but that is from what I can tell for the infrastructure. Any day to day operation must be self sustaining. Simple economics.

 

Get over yourselves.

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soon there will be charges in the grounds car park pay at meter im told to stop people parking for town but staff have to pay to park for work!!!

 

 

Er so? The parking meters outside my work are £6 per hour - nearly £50 per day or £12,500 pa - so I catch the train. Every part of the club which doesnt pay its way means that it is being subsidised by those fans who dont use that service. Do I want to the club to buy a new right back or subsidise the car parking and season ticket loans. Um its a toughie.

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I'm sure some will claim that it actually costs the club £70 to print a pass, put it in an envelope and post it out, though, such is the nature of some on here.

 

Easy to make snippy comments. Im sure some will claim a six month workover of this forum wasnt asked for or necessary. Some will claim the £5 memebership charge could have been met through advertising. Its odd that you ***** about the management of SFC yet are / were involved in the two most autocratic and unrepresentative fans organisations -this one and the Saints Trust. A bit of consistency in the standards depatrment wouldnt come amiss.

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Tend to agree with that. A simple "no pain, no gain" news bulletin from Cortese would close down c.37 threads on here at a shot.

 

I'm guessing that Cortese comes from the school of business thought which says that 'strong management = autonomy not inclusivity'.

 

However, as several people have indicated before, most Saints fans I speak to that don't frequent internet message boards and the like don't hang on every snippent of news coming out of SMS and thus do not share the same level of angst that some regular 'onliners' do.

 

In the same way that I like going to the cinema but when I pitch up to watch a film I have no idea what online debates there have been about the price of a cinema ticket being hiked

to 10% (or whatever) more than last year and that it now costs me £2 to park in the multi-story car park compared to £1 last year. I simply turn up, pay the price, watch the film and come back again a couple of weeks later if I felt I got value for money and good

entertainment.

 

perfectly stated trousers!

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