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It is clear from our high ticket prices and the RyanAir type add ons (i.e the £3 Cortese Tax on online/phone purchases) that Saints aim to be charging top whack for tickets going forward. We are clearly divided as to whether this is exploitation and gutter business ethics or the price we must pay for success. Inevitably opinions are complicated further due to location, how you watch saints (tickets v season tickets), frequency of attendance etc. Far be it from me to suggest that the opinions of those who don't go very often are less than fans who do spend a lot of money supporting the club, but it must be said that it's naturally more easy for the "match thread" type fans to stomach price hikes.

 

So the question is how much would you be prepared to pay in financial terms to watch Saints?

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Obviously depends on what division.

 

£25 for a ticket in the Northam for me this season is too much from a value for money and cost justification... I will probably do 6 games, if it was nearer £20 I would have probably been nearer 10-12

 

I certainly don't think many people will do the 15 game 'break even' point to make up for the lack of season tickets.

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For me, it's not a case of pre-allocating funds for leisure activities, such as watching football, it's the other way around; i.e. if I've got a 'spare' £100 at the end of the week and I've nowt else happening on Saturday afternoon then I'll book a couple of tickets for me and Trousers Jnr (online or over the phone) and hop in the car.

 

Thus, a few extra pounds here and there this season won't really affect how many times I go to see Saints.

 

However, I suspect my number of trips per season would reduce the higher up the leagues we got (much in the same way I have been to see Saints more since being relegated from the Premier League). But that's also to do with ticket availability too and not just price.

 

In other words, the price of "success" is that I'll see Saints less than I do now.

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You really are a pair of complete idiots. I'm glad you won't be going to many games if your attitude continues to be so whinging. If £69 (although it can very easily be a maximum £3!) is the difference between you going to many more than 6 games - over several months- then maybe your finances suggest you shouldn't go at all.

 

We all get how you feel......now STFU!!!

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If we got back up to premiership level 35 pounds per game would be within my expectations of reasonable. Anything above 28 quid below Premiership level is rather steep.

 

However, if Nicola Cortese does read this, ignore that. I would rather DIE then pay anything over 20.

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Cost isn't a limiting factor for me in watching Saints; back in the Prem days I can remember paying up to £35 for a ticket. I go to games to watch Saints regardless of who the other team is, so paying £25 for games in League 1 next year really doesn't trouble me all that much.

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Cost isn't a limiting factor for me in watching Saints; back in the Prem days I can remember paying up to £35 for a ticket. I go to games to watch Saints regardless of who the other team is, so paying £25 for games in League 1 next year really doesn't trouble me all that much.

 

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good quality costs money. Why do people pay £100 for an Armani or Boss t-shirt when they can get one at Primark for £5. If we are doing well then i am happy to pay more, if we are not then i wont. Simple.

 

Because they've got more money than sense.

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Simple really, we are customers and pay for a product, we are in an affluent area, spending a lot of money and have a fantastic stadium/facilities. This IMO is what singles us out from the other teams in the division.

 

I don't think many will have much problem going to the same amount of games as last season, as long as we are winning, of course it is different if we are losing.

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I thought you would have too, what with you being so driven, motivated and having an HND.

 

Being able to afford something and being prepared to pay for something is different. I just happen to believe you can dress smartly without paying for a label. In fact I wouldn't be seen dead in stone island or some other pretentious label meant to impress others. It's the height of chavvyness.

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Being able to afford something and being prepared to pay for something is different. I just happen to believe you can dress smartly without paying for a label. In fact I wouldn't be seen dead in stone island or some other pretentious label meant to impress others. It's the height of chavvyness.

 

Stone island isn't really meant to impress anyone unless you ARE a chavvy c*nt

 

TBH, expensive clothing on the whole is not really chavvy is it ?

 

Chav - A working-class youth, especially one associated with aggression, poor education, and a perceived "common" taste in clothing and lifestyle

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Being able to afford something and being prepared to pay for something is different. I just happen to believe you can dress smartly without paying for a label. In fact I wouldn't be seen dead in stone island or some other pretentious label meant to impress others. It's the height of chavvyness.

 

Indeed you can, but some people choose to pay for designer labels, some people choose to go on holiday to Mauritius rather than Benidorm, some people choose to drive a Mercedes rather than a Nissan sunny, some people choose to pay more for decent football rather than bleating on about an, IMO, reasonalbly priced ticket, for what should be a successful season and a £3 booking fee, if you can afford it but are not prepared to pay it, then choose not too.

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Stone island isn't really meant to impress anyone unless you ARE a chavvy c*nt

 

TBH, expensive clothing on the whole is not really chavvy is it ?

 

Chav - A working-class youth, especially one associated with aggression, poor education, and a perceived "common" taste in clothing and lifestyle

 

off the subject but the problem with Stone Island is there are far to many fakes around, knock offs from ebay where someone has sown a badge onto it, these look hideous but you can spot them a mile off, some of the genuine stuff is really quite nice and good quality. And no, expensive clothing is not chavvy one bit.

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I would sell my sister to be back in the Premiership - if £3 is worth it in the long run then so be it. I could **** and moan about it all I like, but the "tax" is there and it's not going away, so I'm living with it.

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Don't care if it's this division, the Prem or the Conference, for me going to watch Saints is a must. Saying that I wouldn't pay over 50 quid a game!

 

 

Shh, if Cortese reads this board he'll take that as gospel!

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Indeed you can, but some people choose to pay for designer labels, some people choose to go on holiday to Mauritius rather than Benidorm, some people choose to drive a Mercedes rather than a Nissan sunny, some people choose to pay more for decent football rather than bleating on about an, IMO, reasonalbly priced ticket, for what should be a successful season and a £3 booking fee, if you can afford it but are not prepared to pay it, then choose not too.

 

It's funny how you have an issue about my "bleating" on about a rip-off booking tax, yet you think it's ok to bleat on in defence of the scum that got sent to prison after the Pompey game.

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off the subject but the problem with Stone Island is there are far to many fakes around, knock offs from ebay where someone has sown a badge onto it, these look hideous but you can spot them a mile off, some of the genuine stuff is really quite nice and good quality. And no, expensive clothing is not chavvy one bit.

 

It is if it displays a label on the outside. Labels are meant for the inside of garments. Anyone who breaks this golden rule is a chav imo.

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It's funny how you have an issue about my "bleating" on about a rip-off booking tax, yet you think it's ok to bleat on in defence of the scum that got sent to prison after the Pompey game.

 

TBF, as much as i don't agree with him regarding that subject, he hasn't exactly 'bleated on' about it on EVERY f*cking thread.

 

As for the £3 booking tax, i very much expect it was their anyways, Cortese has just made it public, if he would have just put them on sale with the so called 'tax' hidden then you would have been none the wiser.

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It's funny how you have an issue about my "bleating" on about a rip-off booking tax, yet you think it's ok to bleat on in defence of the scum that got sent to prison after the Pompey game.

 

I'm not starting all that again, i wasn't defending them, as i feel i was quite clear on numerous occasions, as an eye witness to the incident and going by other sentances for other offences i felt that the sentances they were given were very harsh.

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TBF, as much as i don't agree with him regarding that subject, he hasn't exactly 'bleated on' about it on EVERY f*cking thread.

 

As for the £3 booking tax, i very much expect it was their anyways, Cortese has just made it public, if he would have just put them on sale with the so called 'tax' hidden then you would have been none the wiser.

 

As I have said I have no issue in paying for P+P but there is no way that the cost of posting out a ticket costs £3 over and above buying from someone at the window. However you try to excuse this disgusting rip-off it is just that - a rip-off.

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I'm not starting all that again, i wasn't defending them, as i feel i was quite clear on numerous occasions, as an eye witness to the incident and going by other sentances for other offences i felt that the sentances they were given were very harsh.

 

You quite clearly were defending them as it was just a little fence rattling wasn't it?:rolleyes:

 

You clearly chose to ignore the pensioner who had his head slashed by a projectile. It didn't suit your defence of the yobs to tell it like it was.

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As I have said I have no issue in paying for P+P but there is no way that the cost of posting out a ticket costs £3 over and above buying from someone at the window. However you try to excuse this disgusting rip-off it is just that - a rip-off.

 

Don't go then, save the petrol from leicester whilst your at it too

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You quite clearly were defending them as it was just a little fence rattling wasn't it?:rolleyes:

 

You clearly chose to ignore the pensioner who had his head slashed by a projectile. It didn't suit your defence of the yobs to tell it like it was.

 

In some cases that is all it was, in one case all it was was shouting aggresively. Anyway, that has been done to death. If they;d have let everyone out at the same time and let everyone walk up the street holding hands then none of it would have happened would it......

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It is clear from our high ticket prices and the RyanAir type add ons (i.e the £3 Cortese Tax on online/phone purchases) that Saints aim to be charging top whack for tickets going forward. We are clearly divided as to whether this is exploitation and gutter business ethics or the price we must pay for success. Inevitably opinions are complicated further due to location, how you watch saints (tickets v season tickets), frequency of attendance etc. Far be it from me to suggest that the opinions of those who don't go very often are less than fans who do spend a lot of money supporting the club, but it must be said that it's naturally more easy for the "match thread" type fans to stomach price hikes.

 

So the question is how much would you be prepared to pay in financial terms to watch Saints?

 

Cripes .... did I miss the quid for a P!ss charge being intoduced :scared:

 

Or was that Sleazy Jets idea?

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In some cases that is all it was, in one case all it was was shouting aggresively. Anyway, that has been done to death. If they;d have let everyone out at the same time and let everyone walk up the street holding hands then none of it would have happened would it......

 

No, the scum would have loitered around and smacked up innocent Pompey fans walking back to their vehicles.

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As I have said I have no issue in paying for P+P but there is no way that the cost of posting out a ticket costs £3 over and above buying from someone at the window. However you try to excuse this disgusting rip-off it is just that - a rip-off.

 

When we have signed the best right back, the best left back and the best forwards in this league over the last 12 months I do not feel a measly £3 extra to help fund those purchases is a rip off at all.

Quite the opposite in fact - If we want success and promotion then the fans are being asked to chip in a bit extra too.

Perfectly sensible in my view

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It is clear from our high ticket prices and the RyanAir type add ons (i.e the £3 Cortese Tax on online/phone purchases) that Saints aim to be charging top whack for tickets going forward. We are clearly divided as to whether this is exploitation and gutter business ethics or the price we must pay for success. Inevitably opinions are complicated further due to location, how you watch saints (tickets v season tickets), frequency of attendance etc. Far be it from me to suggest that the opinions of those who don't go very often are less than fans who do spend a lot of money supporting the club, but it must be said that it's naturally more easy for the "match thread" type fans to stomach price hikes.

 

So the question is how much would you be prepared to pay in financial terms to watch Saints?

 

If I still lived in Soton, I would buy an ST this season.

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What, stuck syringes full of heroin in them?

 

No, spat at them, punched them, kicked them in the head when they are lieing on the ground. The general acts of the scum elements that latch onto football clubs.

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No, spat at them, punched them, kicked them in the head when they are lieing on the ground. The general acts of the scum elements that latch onto football clubs.

 

Which is why the police should have kept the pompey fans in!!! I am bored with this now anyway. Maybe the £3 'cortese tax' will encourage this 'scum element' to stay away by pricing them out? Maybe the more we pay the fewer will come? Lets make tickets £50 with a £10 booking fee!!

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Which is why the police should have kept the pompey fans in!!! I am bored with this now anyway. Maybe the £3 'cortese tax' will encourage this 'scum element' to stay away by pricing them out? Maybe the more we pay the fewer will come? Lets make tickets £50 with a £10 booking fee!!

 

Wrong. It's precisely why the police made the right call to let the Pompey fans out at the same time. It gave the innocent Pompey fans the chance to blend in with the crowd and get to their vehicles more safely. As to pricing the scum out - it won't work, but i'm sad to say that draconian measures should as coach travel only to Derbies may have to be introduced.

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I'd pay whatever it cost....if I couldn't afford it I wouldn't go.

 

What those that moan don't seem to realise is that support is not a choice...I've sacrificed things in my younger days to go to matches, now I'm a little more comfortable financially it doesn't hurt so much but I still have that same compulsion, addiction, desire to see matches (I live 250 miles away) so I make it happen whenever time allows. I had a season ticket last year & loved every chance I got to use it.

 

Fess up - it's an addiction or even an affliction but I wouldn't change any of that!

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

I suppose you would be amused given it takes very little to amuse you. You have yet to explain why you feel it's amusing to use derogatory terms to describe the mentally handicapped. One can only hope you are never allowed to work at a special school.

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Of course, the National Front rallies that Dune attends aren't full of thick chav scum who love a punch up and would think nothing of attacking any non English that they stumbled upon.

 

Pots and kettles Dune/Stanley/Neo-Nazi

 

Godwins Law, but as you have brought the subject up you'd do well to have a look in the mirror given your vile attitude towards the disabled.

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good quality costs money. Why do people pay £100 for an Armani or Boss t-shirt when they can get one at Primark for £5. If we are doing well then i am happy to pay more, if we are not then i wont. Simple.

Nothing to do with quality. Armani or Boss t-shirts are not (significantly) better quality that Primark, in fact you would probably find they were produced in the same sweat shops in Vietnam, just putting a stupid designer label on them means some people think they are better quality. More fool them.

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